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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:27 pm

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andrew94 (2): Zed, Battousai
quadz08 (1): tvellalott
Battousai (1): andrew94
Tasky (1): WingsOWisdom
ZeroFang (1): drmyshottyizsik
Mokujin_ (1): GarethByrd
tvellalot (1): Tasky
Not voting (4): Mokujin_, quadz08, don_johnson, ZeroFang

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Oh, andrew's in
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...fine. I'll do it here, too.

I'm sorry for the antagonization I've done toward some players in this game. I do value your contributions, but my distaste for some of your posts is real. I do understand that we are in the same boat, in the end, and that my skill might not be any different. Either way, we all bring something new to the table, and I lurvs you. :D

Okay, everything after this will only have 25% or less homo, and 30% or less moku-humor.
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:27 pm

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Mokujin_ wrote:Okay, everything after this will only have 25% or less homo, and 30% or less moku-humor.
Shit. I love the homo.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:29 pm

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oh. i get it. your plan is to troll and lurk? makes perfect sense.

vote: zerofang


wanna try something different?
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:31 pm

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and besides voting a lot of different people you've done....
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:36 pm

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asked questions and applied pressure to the full extent of my abilities. you know, "scumhunting" i think they call it. thanks for playing. :roll:
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:43 pm

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Which is essentially what I've done, just Ythan style instead of my own style, wall-to-wall posts.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:17 pm

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ok. please vote yourself then.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:53 pm

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tvellalott wrote:
Tasky wrote:
tvellalott wrote:the FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC possibilities
1) andrew94 is the doctor, no one counter-claims. He dies tonight.
2) andrew94 isn't the doctor, the real doctor counter-claims. We lynch andrew94. The real doctor dies tonight.
3) andrew94 isn't the doctor, the real doctor doesn't counter-claim. We don't lynch andrew94. He doesn't die tonight. We lynch him tomorrow.
4) andrew94 is the doctor, no one counter-claims. He doesn't die tonight. We lynch him tomorrow.
And so on.

Best case scenario: andrew94 isn't the real doctor, the real doctor DOESN'T counter claim.
Worst case scenario: andrew94 is the real doctor, we don't lynch him and lynch another townie instead, mafia don't kill him and we lynch him tomorrow.

For more information, see this youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK2tWVj6lXw
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this kind of speculation is extremely useless. you just want others to think you are doing something, you aren't. the last time I saw this kind of NK-WIFOM speculations they always came from scum-side.
I think it's obvious the real doctor should counterclaim if he is out there. catching one scum is worth giving up the doc during the night.
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:25 pm

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well i pointed tvell out but as usual, u guys ignored me
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:52 am

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andrew94 wrote:well i pointed tvell out but as usual, u guys ignored me
do you want a cookie for it?
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:04 pm

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YES!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:44 pm

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dr came back?
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:45 pm

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Drmyshottyizsik is back?

Have you...changed?
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 1:59 pm

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behold the new VI- me
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:59 pm

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guys, just vote zero. this game is stalling.
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:57 pm

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vote zero
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:43 pm

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I should know better than to argue logic with two VIs a scum and a monkey :roll:
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:41 pm

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look , you defend me then say sorry for defending me, then defend me after i claim doc, then attack quaz cos he attacked me, buddied me and then ...
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:55 pm

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this game needs more tvellalot votes
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:28 am

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I've been thinking about this for awhile, and while I don't agree with it, it seems to be agreed upon by everyone else that is the best thing to do.

cc doctor.
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:55 am

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Zed wrote:I've been thinking about this for awhile, and while I don't agree with it, it seems to be agreed upon by everyone else that is the best thing to do.

cc doctor.
you serious? no taking this back later, you know?

I think we should neither lynch Zed nor andrew at this point.
if we leave them both alive this night, scum won't be able to kill our doc (since they would expose the fakeclaimer), and the real doc would have one less possible target this night which increases the chances of a successful protect.
I think we should go and look for the other scumbags that are around.
if we kill one of them however there are two scenarios:
1. we lynch scum and lose the doc in the night => this is still favorable, but it doesn't make the most out of the situation, since we lose our protection starting from day 1
2. we lynch the doc, N1 someone get's killed and we lynch scum D2. => this is bad, as we lose a protection for the rest of the game have to waste another lynch on the scum. two lynches on doc+scum isn't good for town.

therefore we want to force scum to kill the real doc sooner or later.

andrew: you sure you are claiming cop, last time I'll ask: if you are town, take back your claim. it's the worst thing a townie could do. (well, technically it's already to late, but late is better than never)

only exception: if andrew or zed should be someones lover, the lover should claim that, since doctor isn't a lover.
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:28 am

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if we leave them both alive this night, scum won't be able to kill our doc (since they would expose the fakeclaimer), and the real doc would have one less possible target this night which increases the chances of a successful protect.
That is an idea.

Personally, I'm pretty sure that the CCer is Town. I mean, CCing just isn't a good move for scum here on Day 1. Scum doesn't do 1 for 1 trades.

Actually, unless Zed is playing really badly, he must be Town. I mean, CCing that he is doc basically means that the Doc can't be NKed N1.

Andrew's claim must have been to draw out the doc as he had realized how fail he is. He has succeeded in his objective.

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So either andrew is scum or zed pulled a terrible move. I'll go with the former.

Considering this, the mafia will probably NK the true doc tonight. If they don't...wow.

I mean, how much of an asset is andrew, really?
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:33 am

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Mokujin_ wrote:Personally, I'm pretty sure that the CCer is Town. I mean, CCing just isn't a good move for scum here on Day 1. Scum doesn't do 1 for 1 trades.
not necessarily.
claiming doc out of nowhere isn't a good move either
and besides there is still the WIFOM possibility that Zed knows we suspect andrew more than him and tried to pull of the gambit.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:53 am

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No, I still think andrew is scum.

A doc could be NKed and a mislynch organized in some different way. Zed counter-claiming the doc as scum on D1 complicates a situation that would have previously more likely resulted in the scumteam's favor.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:31 am

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If I was scum, why would I counterclaim? I was in no danger myself, and I wouldn't reveal myself if I was under no suspicion. I tried dropping hints that andrew's claim was fake so I wouldn't have to come right out and say it like this, but no one seemed to be getting it.

I'm liking the idea to not lynch either myself or andrew. Make the scum choose, and make them reveal the faker.

If andrew is banned and he flips doctor, which he won't, then I get another day here. If I'm banned, then andrew is dead in 5 minutes. Either way we both die really, the town might as well make the scum use their NKs on us then on others.
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