Open 245 - Mini Love - Scum win!

[ZeroFang]

andrew94 (3): Zed, Battousai, ZeroFang
ZeroFang (3): drmyshottyizsik, don_johnson, andrew94
quadz08 (1): tvellalott
Tasky (1): WingsOWisdom
Mokujin_ (1): GarethByrd
tvellalot (1): Tasky
Not voting (2): Mokujin_, quadz08

12 alive, 7 to lynch

Deadline Wednesday 29th September, 10PM GMT

I'm inclined to believe the CC. Andrew has been really scummy, and the scum usually won't risk a 1-1 ration of scum to PRs. Due to there being a claim and a counterclaim, it's very likely that one is scum and one is a doctor. Either way, they both die, the scum are short a member, and we're short a doctor. It's not the best tradeoff but it's already happened, so we might as well make the most of it.

VOTE: andrew94

Leaving the scum to choose is a bad idea. You should never leave scum with decisions. It allows them to choose what will work best with their current plans. The death of both is inevitable and we don't need to eat WIFOM cake in the event that neither of them die. It's much safer and better for the town to lynch the counter-claimed doctor.

[Mokujin_]

Good point.

But if we agree already that andrew is scum and lynch someone else, wouldn't that put us in a better position on D2?

The worst scum can do N1 if we don't kill andrew is...what?

[Tasky]

I'm inclined to believe the CC. Andrew has been really scummy, and the scum usually won't risk a 1-1 ration of scum to PRs. Due to there being a claim and a counterclaim, it's very likely that one is scum and one is a doctor. Either way, they both die, the scum are short a member, and we're short a doctor. It's not the best tradeoff but it's already happened, so we might as well make the most of it.

VOTE: andrew94

Leaving the scum to choose is a bad idea. You should never leave scum with decisions. It allows them to choose what will work best with their current plans. The death of both is inevitable and we don't need to eat WIFOM cake in the event that neither of them die. It's much safer and better for the town to lynch the counter-claimed doctor.

I don't agree. if neither of them dies, we have the advantage of one night protection today. all things being equal, it's better to have a chance of preventing a NK, isn't it?

[Zed]

There is still a possibility that andrew is just a very stupid townie, and that's why I'm inclined not to lynch andrew, but to use the rest of our day to look for more scum.

If we let the scum decide who to kill first, is that really a big deal? Either way we're both dead, does it really matter wo goes first? I can see lynching andrew just for bad play as a townie, or for having scum like qualities, but I'd like to hear from him before we all decide.

Unvote

for now.

[andrew94]

mokukin's and zerofang's reactions merit attention as they both look like scum attempting to take advantage of the situation.

[Mokujin_]

You know, I disagree.

But could you respond to the doc claim? Interesting, for sure. Should we lynch you, or should we wait?

Interesting sig. Reminds me of a certain doctor's.

[don_johnson]

i'm going to reread with the new info. i believe the counterclaim.

[andrew94]

drmyshotty?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Um first of all andrew really change our sig now, I'm not even joking.
and secondly I really am just thinking, and yes lurking if you may. I do not have a real read on any one, but andrew. Because scum typicly will not counter claim, because if they lie they get lynched.

vote andrew

also mas claim =!= bad idea

[andrew94]

opportunistic scum.
havebnt u heard the guy said not lynch either of us.

[drmyshottyizsik]

thats a dumb idea, because then the scum just get one more townie dead. anyway

change your sig!!

[andrew94]

I'm inclined to believe the CC. Andrew has been really scummy, and the scum usually won't risk a 1-1 ration of scum to PRs. Due to there being a claim and a counterclaim, it's very likely that one is scum and one is a doctor. Either way, they both die, the scum are short a member, and we're short a doctor. It's not the best tradeoff but it's already happened, so we might as well make the most of it.

VOTE: andrew94

Leaving the scum to choose is a bad idea. You should never leave scum with decisions. It allows them to choose what will work best with their current plans. The death of both is inevitable and we don't need to eat WIFOM cake in the event that neither of them die. It's much safer and better for the town to lynch the counter-claimed doctor.

it is not because i am not scum.

[Tasky]

andrew, so you stay with your doc claim?
why aren't you voting for Zed then?
I mean. if you are the real doc, you would know he is scum, right?

[Zed]

and again, I'm a she. *sigh*

[Tasky]

sorry

[Mr.Sandman]

Nexus replaces Battousai.

Prodding GarethByrd

[Nexus]

Hello.

Gonna do a read of the thread now.

[Nexus]

Ok, so here's the thing:

One of Andrew and Zed has to be lying, because, obviously, we can't have two doctors. I'm not entirely convinced that Andrew's a doctor, because if he is, he's playing very badly.

Zed I'm torn on, though.

So yeah, I'm currently trying to figure things out. But those two are my main focus.

[Mokujin_]

Andrew is scum. Look at his posts after the CC.

Should we lynch him now or later?

[andrew94]

i do not stay with my claim.
my plan was to die tonight but zed claimed = =

for more infomation pls refer to newbie 1006

[Nexus]

What?

[drmyshottyizsik]

God damnit, Andrew you are worse than me, or even parkonorie. And that means a lot.
@

mod

please black list him, and replace him for talking about on going games.

[drmyshottyizsik]

@

Mod

He has broken rules one and eight. In many posts, and also your rule 15 is great so please make a ruling on him. Either replace him or I want a replacement now. Please do not Mod kill him unless you would Mod kill him and skip night one.

[Zed]

Hi Nexus. Can you explain why you're torn, please?

[Mr.Sandman]

Forcing a replacement of andrew94 for a second violation of rules - referencing an ongoing game Rule 8. Andrew94 is no longer permitted to post in this thread.