Open 245 - Mini Love - Scum win!

[Mokujin_]

andrew94 (3): Nexus, ZeroFang, drmyshottyizsik
ZeroFang (2): don_johnson, andrew94
quadz08 (1): tvellalott
Tasky (1): WingsOWisdom
Mokujin_ (1): GarethByrd
tvellalot (1): Tasky
Not voting (3): Mokujin_, quadz08, Zed

12 alive, 7 to lynch

Deadline Wednesday 29th September, 10PM GMT

Would it be bad sportsmanship to cheer?

[drmyshottyizsik]

Forcing a replacement of andrew94 for a second violation of rules - referencing an ongoing game Rule 8. Andrew94 is no longer permitted to post in this thread.

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!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i'M REALLY HAPPY RIGHT NOW.!!!!!!!!!!

[drmyshottyizsik]

ebwop

yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quadz08]

Yeesh. Show a little restraint please.

Stay classy, mafiascum.

[ZeroFang]

So we're just going to ignore his scumminess and the fact that he was counterclaimed and leave him in the game? He already said his claim was false...

[drmyshottyizsik]

I know and if i had read the game he illegally referenced and i expect he did the exact same thing, but in that game he got mad at the counter claimer and didnt try to push that he was real[/end making sure i dont get kicked for rule 8]

[Mokujin_]

I say we lynch Andrew.

Regardless of what he flips, Zed is the Doc.

[don_johnson]

i agree here, but i think andrew is scum. i don't see any reason for his behavior and linking to other games to prove a "gambit" is weak sauce and andrew has now done it twice already i believe.

vote: andrew

not done with my reread, but i think this is a fine place to start.

[Tasky]

I want andrew's replacement to do talk before we lynch.

[Mr.Sandman]

Still looking for an andrew94 replacement

Prodding WingsOWisdom

[quadz08]

VOTE: andrew

He's at L-2 now, by my count.

I await his replacement eagerly.

[Zed]

I feel so bad for whoever replaces him. Scum or not, they're pretty screwed.

[don_johnson]

an opinion of some sort would be nice in case the slot is town. but i highly doubt it is, and we might want to collectively decide to carry the lynch if sandman can't find a replacement. inactivity can really kill a game. but whatever.

[quadz08]

I feel so bad for whoever replaces him. Scum or not, they're pretty screwed.

QFT.

[ZeroFang]

an opinion of some sort would be nice in case the slot is town.

If the opinion is from the mouth of scum we still have that much information. Perhaps it's not quite as objective as a townie's perspective, but there are ways to use that to our advantage...

[Mokujin_]

Town opinion < Scum opinion because scum opinion is educated.

[don_johnson]

true, but a good scumbag can get in here and wifom the hell out of us. either way. i just don't want the game to drag.

[Mr.Sandman]

Still looking for a replacement for andrew94 and now looking for GarethByrd also

[Mokujin_]

Ok then.

vote andrew

Gotta know.

[ZeroFang]

That's L-1. Should we wait for the replacement or hammer?

[don_johnson]

i'd rather see a hammer and go to night phase, then i won't be tempted to keep checking in here. that would also leave the mod with one replacement instead of two. but whatever. my votes already on him. if it wasn't i'd have just hammered. the slot is scum. has to be.

[Zed]

With andrew at L-1, I'll add a final thought before I go.

To me, it seems like don_johnson is trying to look helpful. He's voting andrew, who just about everyone seems to be in agreement on. That could be a bid for FoI if they are both scum. He is also pushing for a hammer right now, and while both sides can do it, there really isn't a great reason for it when the person at L-1 has been banned from the thread.

I'm not convinced on andrew's status, since he seemed guilty of bad play more than anything. I'm also not for voting someone who the mod is looking for a replacement for, since a replacement that knows what they're doing could be more helpful then lynching him if bad play si all he is guilty of.

So, I won't be hammering, but I am going to bed. So in case its night when I wake up, I wish the town luck, and I hope you caught scum today.

[don_johnson]

where are you going?

[WingsOWisdom]

Oh, hey, this game.

Zed's not unvoting andrew after his claim (she posted while he was at L-1) in 188 and disbelief of his claim in 204 are at least consistent with her later counter claim, so I'm inclined to believe her. Her reluctance to vote for him, while puzzling to me, mostly confirms this, as she's had two opportunities to hammer him now, and I can't imagine scum passing up the opportunity to lynch a claimed doctor.

So, hammer time. UNVOTE: VOTE: andrew94

I thought about waiting for a replacement for andrew, but don_johnson is right. Unless andrew's replacement acts even scummier, I doubt anyone will change their minds about this lynch (that is, andrew's replacement might convince people to vote FOR him, but I don't think anyone currently voting for him will be persuaded to unvote). I'd rather not give potential scum andrew's replacement the opportunity to mess with our perception of connections to scum buddies.

Also, this.

Leaving the scum to choose is a bad idea.

Also also, gut says Tasky is scum for trying to keep andrew alive today.

[Mr.Sandman]

andrew94 (7): Nexus, ZeroFang, drmyshottyizsik, don_johnson, quadz08, Mokujin_, WingsOWisdom
ZeroFang (1): andrew94
quadz08 (1): tvellalott
Mokujin_ (1): GarethByrd
tvellalot (1): Tasky
Not voting (1): Zed

12 alive, 7 to lynch

A public vote was cast. andrew94 was quickly promoted to the bookies favourite for the lynch. If he didn’t know what he was after all, how could anyone else be expected to? The majority vote sparked a full scale manhunt, but andrew94 was nowhere to be found. He’d already been banished and would not return. However, he’d thoughtfully left some identification so that everyone would know that he was

andrew94, Townie

, just a regular bloke with no extraordinary talent or skills. Night fell.[/i]

Deadline is in 72 hours, or as soon as I get on after that