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Sorry, a meeting came up and more classes (I was able to quickly respond to my other games but not to this...)
But I will get back to you.
I just wanted to say that I am using that Ein picture for now on as a pseudo-FoS, IGMEOY or a "I'm waiting" type of post. So says I. =P-
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If I had to throw out two FoSs right now I would say xvart/Socrates.
Because of this
Partly because it seems like he had been keeping tabs on WHO FoSd Oso (even if he didn't do it well). His tone is almost defensive and frustrated in the post.xvart wrote:
Why Oso/Socrates? This is the first time you have even typed Oso's name. What happened overnight? You think the good points all around (about boberz) is only enough to make him the least suspicious of your scum grouping?Slaxx, 328 wrote:Good points all around the table.
DH, WOMD, what do you guys think about Xine or Oso/Socrates?
I think 2 out of Xine, Boberz, and Oso/Socrates are last scum, but I have to be honest, I am least suspicious of boberz. I will probably read more thoroughly this weekend.
I think Xvart had been giving strong stances and warranted more of a strong read by that point in time. Its almost like "lol my scum buddies coming up guess I will throw him in neutral".Oso wrote:xvart: From my RVS you might get the impression I like playing mafia with him. You'd be right but he remains neutral. Thinking out loud here but, like Charter, I like the direction his thinking seems to be going in.-
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WeaponsofMassConstruction(3): Socrates, charter, DemonHybrid
Slaxx(3): Xine, Lowell, xvart
Xine(1): WeaponsofMassConstruction
xvart(1): Slaxx
Not Voting:boberz, Parama
6to lynch.
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Hmm, I agree with your points on xvart but I want to read him in ISO myself first.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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charter Beware of Dog
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What fakeness? I think what I was possibly misreading was the time line. I read your original post as you asked the question to check to see if she would provide the town response you had in mind; which was confusing since you said didn't realize the question was so obvious until after you posted it. That, in addition to the rapid fire responses, made it seem like you were falsely justifying the reason you asked the question to begin with.Slaxx, 472 wrote:1. I post the question
2. I thought about what I asked and what I would expect her to say as town/scum and realize the town answer is obvious
3. She says the response that makes sense in a real tracker's mindset (Voting me because I softclaimed PR when she had a NV on me)
4. Even though the answer is obvious it wasnt what I was expecting from her as scum so it makes me rethink things (Yes that was a stab at her playing strength)
I dont get the fakeness.
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Where did you get this suggestion?WeaponsofMassConstruction, 479 wrote:So you think there are 4 scum? How common is this for 12 player setups?
Why did you feel the need to claim now? This is interesting since it comes right after talk of directing the tracker.WeaponsofMassConstruction, 501 wrote:Cool.
I claim vanilla townie if it matters.
Slightly scummy. I had a fairly neutral read of him until he claimed VT out of the blue. I want to know why he claimed and why he claimed at that point in the game.Parama, 514 wrote:xvart, what do you think of WOMC?
I wasn't on the Bub wagon because I never really thought he was scummier than the people I was most suspicious of. In all honesty, without rereading back I really don't remember why everyone thought Bub was scummy.Slaxx wrote:
It's not that I keep tabs on FoSes, but rather I pay greater attention to people I think are likely scum. When reading your post and thinking about your suspect pool I didn't recall you saying much about Oso previously. I then ISO'ed the wrong person and saw Bobz hadn't said anything about Oso, and posted that about you. If I was trying to build a phony case just to get you lynched then I did it very, very poorly; but I'll leave that judgement up to everyone else as to whether or not I would be so flagrant about phony case building.Slaxx wrote:Partly because it seems like he had been keeping tabs on WHO FoSd Oso (even if he didn't do it well). His tone is almost defensive and frustrated in the post.
I'm starting to lean back towards lynching Xine. I'm going to read Boberz, Xine, and WOMC again before I replace my vote.
xvart.I only read quote walls.
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I'm not seeing how WOMC and Bub's interactions don't fit within scum distancing.
If WOMC is scum, then DH is almost certainly his scum buddy, but if WOMC is town, then nothing less than a cop investigation would get me to vote DH.
The discussion of Xine's claim is reminding me of this post by Ythill (Ythill is Xine's husband, unless I am mistaken.) Particularly the last point. In my mind, the claim is mostly null.
Charter, I find it weird that you are considering letting Xine live when I have vivid memories of you stubbornly refusing to let a cop claim live on the grounds of information, especially considering how much weaker a tracker is than a cop.
Slaxx is doing way more work than he would need to be doing if he was scum. Yea yea effort =/= protown, I don't care.-
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charter Beware of Dog
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I don't lynch people for information. I pushed hard for that lynch because he was scum, his claim was bullshit, and I was sure he was scum. Here, I'm not as sure.
I reread Weapons and Bub. Weapons comes off slightly good, I didn't get much from Bub's posts.
To be honest, Xine and Socrates are the two scummiest. I really think that both of them are scum.
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charter Beware of Dog
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charter Beware of Dog
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Doing my own little mini case on Xvart..
206, @Slaxx "If Bub is town in this possible scenario then why do you immediately vote him in the next post? Are you voting for someone you think is likely town?" That's incrediscummy seeing as how Bub was scum. He sets up an attack on Slaxx regardless of Bub's alignment. Wondering how I missed that, and now I see his post is like 3000 words so I never read it.
Pretty short case, I think that's the only time he says Bub's name. That's unfortunate for him seeing as Bub was scum.
I also don't see a single mention of him by Bub. I think that's pretty good work Slaxx.
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charter Beware of Dog
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Socrates Mafia Scum
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I know you don't. Thats why I thought post 457 was weird.charter wrote:I don't lynch people for information. I pushed hard for that lynch because he was scum, his claim was bullshit, and I was sure he was scum. Here, I'm not as sure.
Anything for me defend against?charter wrote:Off the top of my head, I could see Soc and Xvart, since Soc is just being generically scummy.
I could see myself on the Xvart wagon if WOMC has officially stalled.-
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I need to do a bunch of reading and figure out what the hell is going on around here. There's been suspicion on nearly every person.-
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This was what I was thinking myself, glad to see we are on the same page.Parama wrote:Modify it:
In the event that today's lynch flips town, track random.
In the event that today's lynch flips scum, track <playername> or else.
I have definitely found Charter's overwhelming desire to lynch pre-claim a bit scummy, especially considering his input when Bub was at L-1, that he was very busy, but takes the time to question the wagon itself. I will do some meta research on him tomorrow, but for now
VOTE: Charter
Socrates continues to make a strong case that I am neutral seems particularly strange to me, and the fact that he quoted Ythill in that argument is definitely extremely odd too. He continues to be my second suspect.
I am intrigued by the Xvart case, and will look into him in iso tomorrow as well.
non game relevant stuff,
Xine=Christine=female, good observation, have you been reading guys part 2?
I don't care personally if anyone thinks I am male, if anyone feels like apologizing for it, do so to DH, who is bothered by it
One more thing, since it's come out that I'm new, I would like to compliment this player group, I am learning a lot from you, thanksIt ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." - Mark Twain
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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I will look into it,
Soc or Charter, could you maybe post a link to the game you were discussing earlier?
speaking of thinking you may be scum, you seem to have "slipped" twice, but most of your play seems townie, I guess meta reaseach on you should be on my imediate to do list as well. you are my #3 pick at this momentIt ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." - Mark Twain
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New thoughts tomorrow; have been caught up elsewhere.-
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The "attack" on Slaxx has absolutely nothing to do with Bub's alignment. It has to do entirely with questioning someone who says someone is town in one post and in the very next post votes that person. That doesn't seem right to me, which is why I questioned it. Are there times when the protown play is to name someone as town and then vote them? Can you explain the circumstances that might warrant such a play?charter, 538 wrote:206, @Slaxx "If Bub is town in this possible scenario then why do you immediately vote him in the next post? Are you voting for someone you think is likely town?" That's incrediscummy seeing as how Bub was scum. He sets up an attack on Slaxx regardless of Bub's alignment. Wondering how I missed that, and now I see his post is like 3000 words so I never read it.
xvart.I only read quote walls.
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Slaxx Jack of All Trades
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Xine is scum. I read back to the original case and I'm sold that the interaction between her and bub is damning, and the tracker claim doesn't impress. Still I agree that since we're more or less in control so far, it's dumb to lynch her yet in the offchance that she's telling the truth.Parama wrote:xvart, what do you think of WOMC?
boberz, what do you think of Slaxx?
Lowell, what do you think of Xine?
In other news, weapons and demon are both town, but only demon earns more coveted "townpoints"... weapons just got lucky his role PM bailed him out.
I'm starting to waver on slaxx. He's been useful of late, more or less. I'd like to persue a wagon that isn't weapons/slaxx/xine today, but if I have to choose I'm staying with slaxx. I'll look back through.
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