Star Wars Quote Mafia- Game over

[ibaesha]

random vote: Thok

For being in more mafiascum games with me than anyone else so far, whether I'm ibaesha or ibaeshan. Should it be ibaeshai? Hmm...

[ibaesha]

Wow, just wow. I random vote with my 2 votes and you all run him up to a claim and nearly lynch him within 14 hours? I think he's at 10 votes and it's 11 to lynch.

unvote: Thok

Glad I checked in.

[ibaesha]

Now that I've done that and re-read a bit I'm going to

vote: armlx

for that attempt at a quick lynch. Yes, he deserves my two votes.

[ibaesha]

1. Read post #2.

2. I could be wrong, but wouldn't that be useful for scum as well? Both scum and town can evaluate the game and guess at a lynch or lose situation. The town can even discuss it and figure it out amongst themselves to a relatively close degree if they've reached such a situation, where the scum cannot speculate about it openly.

Your last post appears to me to be an admission that you indeed intended to quickly lynch Thok, and failed because of your lack of reading the thread. Someone who jumps on to lynch someone so quickly on day 1 without knowing what's going on otherwise screams scum to me. Anyone else?

I'm keeping my vote(s) where they are. I think you're scum. I cannot fathom at all how it is pro-town to jump on and lynch someone strung up on a random bandwagon without a damn good explanation. You haven't given one.

[ibaesha]

An unknown vigilante is another example where scum's 'simple math' could be off.

I know that as scum in Mini 203 I contemplated scenarios and whether or not the town would be at a lynch or lose situation at a certain point. And that the knowledge would've been helpful. Therefore, armlx, in my view (which you call idiocy), your role doesn't clear you as pro-town.

[ibaesha]

I've been out of town and really busy for the last week. I'll catch up on the thread and post something tonight or tomorrow.

[ibaesha]

First, I'll apologize for my inactivity. My internet went out shortly after my last post. I've read through today a couple times and I have to admit, I'm fairly well confused.

I don't understand the bandwagon on Quailman at all. I know it's been partially explained, but it seems to me that there's really no basis for it.

What does stick out to me is elvis_knits' behavior. Mr. Stoofer already made some fairly good observations about her but what really hit me is the defensiveness and her vote on him because of it. Mr. Stoofer appears to be rather pro-town to me, considering he seems to be analyzing quite a bit and making some semblance of sense out of things. While I can understand getting frustrated about Mr. Stoofer's observations and vote, elvis_knits seems to be overly defensive it. This can be because she's town and frustrated and believes that her accusor is scum or because she is scum attempting to turn the tables on her accusor and inject doubt into his theories. Put in her place, I might be frustrated about it but I'd also think that Mr. Stoofer was pro-town and just had me figured wrong. I just think it's a little early for this level of frustration and defensiveness on her part.

vote: elvis_knits

I also find SOS suspicious but I can't quite put my finger on what it is that's bothering me.

[ibaesha]

I like my vote currently, although I might be willing to switch to SOS or PBug soon.

elvis: Backing off with an unvote after previously stating 'I love my Mr Stoofer vote' appears like another unwarranted defensive measure. The fact that you didn't move it elsewhere is also unproductive. Aren't you suspicious of anyone else?

Anyone else get this vibe that there's 'two sides' going on here? It's kinda weird. I'm not sure if it's attributed to anything in particular or if it's just playstyles clashing. I'm inclined to believe it's the latter though. There's just too many people picking up on one side or the other. BJs flip-flop is interesting though.

[ibaesha]

Elvis:

1. The points Mr. Stoofer originally made.
2. The defensiveness towards Mr. Stoofer and the OMGUS vote.
3. Unvoting after 'loving the vote' without putting it elsewhere. (not finding others suspicious)
4. Coming up with a vote on PB just to satisfy people.

All defensive behavior.

As far as your point about how to defend yourself against the fact that you're being defensive, that's a good one. I don't know the answer to it entirely. But I do agree with Raj, you appear to be hiding something.

Vote stands.

[ibaesha]

Hmm... okay I'll bite.

vote: Peacebringer

BJ seems pretty convinced.

[ibaesha]

...what?

unvote

I'm confused. Need a re-read now.

[ibaesha]

PB says Shamrock, Thoth, and BJ are innocent
zu_Faul says S_O and Shamrock are innocent and SOS is guilty.

If zu_Faul is lying, we lynch him tomorrow.

vote: SOS

I didn't get that claiming to have killed Stoofer without provocation thing anyways.

[ibaesha]

vote Shamrock

what are you DENSE!

Shamrock, Thoth, and you are not bad from what I have seen.

for you dense folks- the bad guys have picked it up I am sure.

My quote That boy is dangerous is the Obi quote and I am the "cop"

FOS: TSAGod

for making me dig through the thread to post those. Pay attention.

[ibaesha]

Double vote coming right up.

vote: zu_faul

[ibaesha]

Checking in. I need to reread the thread but I'd like to look at Shamrock a little more. Out of the investigations, both PB and zu_faul got him innocent. We know now zu_faul wasn't sane. If he was insane and PB is naive, that'd make Shamrock scum. This also holds true if PB is sane and Shamrock was converted after PBs night 1 investigation. Since I have two votes, I'm going to withold voting at this time, but

FOS:Shamrock

[ibaesha]

Knew I needed a re-read. The Shamrock thing was just the last thing I remember thinking. I forgot about the SO investigation.

[ibaesha]

I think that one or both of TSAGod and Ranger is scum. Sneaking suspicion they're in it together, really.

PBug was scummy - very. I'm only partially giving Coron the benefit of the doubt at the moment.

[ibaesha]

'Kay. Quote please? And honestly roleblocker doesn't convince me. Scum roleblocker isn't that uncommon.

Speaking of which: Have your roleblocks garnered you no information at all since Quailman? You're voting Dranko out of nothing better to do at the moment.

Actually, you just rose on my scum-o-meter.

vote: RoTN

[ibaesha]

What good it will do? Any information that helps catch scum is good.
If you're not doing that, you're not helping. Unwilling to share? Fine. Vote stands.

Also noted you expect PB to share his info while witholding yours. Hypocritical dontcha think?

[ibaesha]

Mmm.. so you're positive you'll be alive to share it later. Right. I can only think of one reason for being positive. Guess what it is? You're scum.

[ibaesha]

Fair enough.

[ibaesha]

Checking in: I'd like to hear from Dranko before finishing him off. Otherwise, happy where my votes are currently.

I have -very- limited access for the next 2-3 weeks. I will try to check in as often as possible. I will understand if I need to be replaced.

[ibaesha]

Scratch the limited access. I got a computer running.

[ibaesha]

unvote; finishing vote: Dranko20

Obviously not going to defend himself and voting raj is bogus.

[ibaesha]

Well, I feel set up. I take it the 'obvious reasons' are that Raj continually gave me a double-vote. I'm ready to claim if necessary. 'Obvious' or just an easy scapegoat? The way you both jumped on that is damn suspicious to me.

FOS: Shamrock and TSAGod

[ibaesha]

I'm not too trusting of Shamrock here, despite the cop results. He's pretty much floated under the radar the entire game. Also, other than his 'obvious reasons' for being suspicous of me, he hasn't brought forward many thoughts on who is scum.

Example:

Well, this is going nowhere. What, indeed, is the reasoning for voting ranger? If there isn't any, maybe I'll just vote TSA, there isn't really much else to do at this point...

I just find that sort of thing scummy.

vote: Shamrock.

I'm still suspicious of Ranger, but less so than yesterday.

As for the double votes: Both Quailman and Thoth bring up good points. I am not too sure that Thoth having a double vote today means he's scum, however. My getting them continuously wasn't due to any gameties I had with Raj. It's just because he lurves me.

[ibaesha]

Coron: I'm not good at the whole math thing either. If that makes me retarded, so be it. Your post confused me as well.

Quailman: While your theory may be a lead, it's not necessarily a -fact- as you are attempting to make it appear. You may be just being aggressive, but let's separate facts from theories.

If I were to change my vote, it'd be to TSAGod. I'm not so sure I believe in Quailman's theory on Thoth. Out of Thoth and TSAGod, TSA's behavior has been more suspicious. His last post especially raised an eyebrow. I never know if someone is trying to save their own ass because they're town or because they're scum. Changing a vote in such a manner bugs me.

[ibaesha]

About time. Damn.

Even though I lost this game, I was rooting for the town at the end. Shamrock was obv mafia. Good job, town.