Star Wars Quote Mafia- Game over

[Mr Stoofer]

Too confusing to have both Thoth and Thok in the same game. Let's lynch one of them.

1. Thok
2. Thoth

Original Roll String: 1d2

1 2-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

[Mr Stoofer]

vote: Thok

[Mr Stoofer]

Some day 1 speculation to get the ball rolling:

While we should be wary of trying to outguess the mod, there are various possible ways the Mod could have designated "scummy" quotes, eg:

- the scum are quotes from the prequels or a particular movie he doesn't like
- the scum are quotes from scummy characters
- the scum are quotes about killing (eg "I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced" or even "I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home" are both about killing, even though spoken by good guys)
- the scum are "unpopular quotes" - so we are all well known quotes (mine is on IMDB under "memorable quotes") but the scum are all completely boring quotes that no-one would ever actually quote (like "pass me the ketchup Aunt Beru")
- a combination of the above
- something else completely
- no rhyme or reason at all

My quote sorta fits my role, FWIW.

[Mr Stoofer]

...Er, isn't this a no brainer?

Thok said he had a way to prove his innocence, and then armlx attempted to apply the finishing vote before he had a chance to do so.

As it happens, Thok's "proof" is ambiguous, although his power makes him much more likely to be pro-town than anti-town. But that's not the point. The point is that he said that he could prove his innocence and armlx tried to prevent that.

Unvote: Thok, vote: armlx.

[Mr Stoofer]

i think the this game probably has star wars quotes as the role names, but im unsure about that.

I'm going to need an explanation for this post Dranko. I can only think of one reason why you could be in any doubt.

[Mr Stoofer]

i think the this game probably has star wars quotes as the role names, but im unsure about that.

I'm going to need an explanation for this post Dranko. I can only think of one reason why you could be in any doubt.

vote: elvis_knits

Vote: Dranko20

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[Mr Stoofer]

MOD

: can we have a vote count please?

The fact that it took Dranko 4 posts to come up with the explanantion: "I was making a joke" gives me no confidence in that explanation.

[Mr Stoofer]

I've lost enthusiasm for the Dranko bandwagon.

now the quotes need to quarantine the

bad quotes

before they continue their bad... or something

This seems to be saying that the mafia are bad quotes [rather than "non-quotes"].

I could believe that there could be an anti-town role in the game that wasn't a quote at all -- I'm thinking of an SK who was a non-Star Wars fan deleting all the quotes from the database. But there are no signs of an SK in this game.

I am still annoyed with Dranko for taking 4 posts to give an explanation for something lots of people had asked about . But for the reasons given above I think that his explanantion is most likely true. So I'm going to

unvote: Dranko20

and have a re-read.

[Mr Stoofer]

My thoughts (alphabetical order):

elvis_knits

: I find his posting weird. He gave a strange, unconvincing reason for not voting armlx (post 103). Trying to push the bandwagon on the townie forward without ending up on it? (See also comments on RangeroftheNorth below.)

Then when he applied the finishing vote to armlx (post 110) he was very defensive about it: "I'm sort of nervous to put on the lynching vote (as I never have before), but the evidence is overwhelming. Does it get any better than this?" Why do defensive? Because he knew armlx was pro-town?

Simialrly, when he voted Dranko20 (post 130) he was at pains to point out that someone else was pushing the bandwagon.

Post 159, where he unvotes Dranko, also seems defensive - trying again, too hard IMHO, to justify his initial vote on Dranko20.

Fritzler

: He has said out loud more than once that he was badnwagon hopping. Now Fritzler does like to jump on bandwagons when he is pro-town, but I wonder if he is making too much of the fact? Does he think we won't be suspicious of him if he makes light of what he is doing?

Fritzler also pushed Thok for his role name (post 89) in circumstances where there was no point - Thok had proved his ability.

RangeroftheNorth

: Ironically, I'm a bit suspicious of him for not voting armlx. The evidence against armlx was overwhelming and the only reason I can think of that a player would have for not voting him is being scum, knowing that armlx was going to be lynched by the town and keeping yourself off it. Much more importantly, RangeroftheNorth has made a huge deal about how he didn't vote armlx (e.g. post 162). I wonder if kept off armlx deliberately (knowing armlx was pro-town and doomed) so he could use this argument.

SOS

: He has not contributed much and what he has said has been wierd. Post 132 was just bizarre.

In post 141 he tried to push the town to lynch Dranko without an explanation: "I'll give him the chance to say something in his defense, if he does not... Then let's lynch him anyway". This is even more blatant in his next post (143) -- in response to Ranger saying "I guess we're all waiting for Dranko", SOS said: "But let's not wait too long, if he starts lurking now he's a goner". This is especially suspicious since it was Thanksgiving weekend, so Dranko20 could have a reasonable excuse for being absent for a few days.

Thok

. A small point, but I was surprised at his post 155. I'm amazed that Thok missed Norinel's point about the quotes coming from his memory - he is not a careless player in my experience.

Thoth

: I thought post 99 from Thoth was odd. He agreed with a strong anti-armlx post from ibeasha, but didn't vote armlx. Instead he said he wanted to hear more from armlx before adding his vote. But armlx had already claimed. Nervous about getting on a bandwagon of someone he knew to be town? His post 184 is also odd.

[Mr Stoofer]

Sorry for the triple post - I forgot the most important bit:

Vote: elvis_knits

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[Mr Stoofer]

I'm happy with my vote, and posts like the above don't make we want to change it.

Thoth: Your post 184 was odd because it was speculation without any rational basis.

[Mr Stoofer]

unvote, vote Quailman

unvote; Vote quailman

unvote, vote Quailman

Could one of you explain this bandwagon to me?

[Mr Stoofer]

MOD:

Can we have a vote count please?

I still like myelvis_knits vote. I didn't ignore her point-by-point response to my thoughts on her. But I was not convinced.

[Mr Stoofer]

I'm keen to get this game moving, but since this is day 3 I'm not going to move my vote to Quailman (or anyone else) without

some

reason. I'm not looking for a guilty result from a confirmed cop with guaranteed sanity. Just some argument in favour. At the moment Quailman is not even a blip on my scumdar.

[Mr Stoofer]

OK its day 2 but the point still holds.

[Mr Stoofer]

I need to reread; I sent Stoofer a message today-he can reveal whatever part of the content he desires.

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see Stoofer revealing his message. Stoofer -- I'd like to hear it if you are willing to reveal.

I can confirm that I got Thok's message - it should have been obvious from the fact that I didn't go ape when Thok said he sent me a message.

I'm quite happy to join in an SOS bandwagon for reasons I have already given.

Unvote: elvis_knits

(but IGMEOY in a big way) and

vote: SOS

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[Mr Stoofer]

rangerofthenorth, i question you, do you think that "It was a boring converstation anyways" is a popular quote? I think it is. If thats the case, don't you think it would be included in this game, dedicated to Star Wars Quotes? I think so

It has to be my role if I don't get counterclaimed(which i havent). Its that popular.

I disagree. I think that there are enough quotes that norinel could easily have chosen plenty that were at least as popular. We're drawing from six movies. That said, even if I was sure that that was your quote, it wouldn't convince me you were pro-town. Quote claiming gives us no reason to believe you. I want to hear the ability.

1

. The lack of a counterclaim does not prove that Dranko really is "It was a boring conversation anyways". RangeroftheNorth is right on this point.

2

. If Dranko is "It was a boring conversation anyways", that does not prove that he is pro-town because we do not know who the bad quotes are. For all we know the bad quotes could be quotes delivered by people in disguise at the time (Han Solo is dressed as, and has been pretending to be, a Stormtrooper at the time he says this).

3

. HOWEVER, there is absolutely no reason for Dranko to reveal his ability (if any) now. Big

FOS: RangeroftheNorth

for pushing Dranko to reveal.

[Mr Stoofer]

Could someone explain the Dranko20 wagon to me? If it is based on this:

i think the this game probably has star wars quotes as the role names, but im unsure about that.

...then please also address my

Post 185

in your answer.

[Mr Stoofer]

FOS: Mr. Stoofer

He has been defensive of Dranko this entire game. Dranko is refusing to give us information even when he has been asked for it.

Wasn't I the one that pushed the bandwagon that almost got Dranko lynched?

Even bigger FOS: RangeroftheNorth

. The only reason I'm not swtiching my vote to you is because the elvis_knits bandwagon is finally taking off.

Unvote: SOS

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Vote: elvis_knits

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[Mr Stoofer]

Thoth, I don't think that counts as a finishing vote - see Norinel's rules in the Opening Post.

And it has also been noted how you have hardly contributed at all today and now you come in at the death on this lynch.

[Mr Stoofer]

[Mr Stoofer]

Thanks for modding, Norinel.

Like Nor, I thought we (Scum) were well on top for the first few days, and I don't think I'd earnt my vig-death; but the Town deserved the win in the end. GG!