Magician's Mafia: The Hypnotists, Game Over

[Tasky]

Re: Ellibereth 572, show me then. just because everybody is in the set {people who THINK to see something}+{scum} it doesn't mean dana is scum. How do you explain your flip flop there? ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. YOUR CAPS ARE NOT GOING TO GET YOU AROUND THEM!
Re: Toogeloo 573, I don't understand the second part of your statement? you see what everyone's on about, dana should go

regardless

(

?huh?

)
Re: DGB 574, yes. But why do YOU think it?

[Toogeloo]

Bring it up with me on the next game day Tasky. Rule 10.

[Katsuki]

I think we'll know a lot of stuff once dana flips.

DGB, you replacing in for seraphim?

[Tasky]

10.)

If you notice there has been a lynch, stop posting.

[petroleumjelly]

Day Three Vote Count #3

7 danakillsu (Katsuki, MehPlusRawr, Cogito Ergo Sum, Ellibereth, Budja, DrippingGoofball, Toogeloo)
1 Katsuki (danakillsu)
1 Toogeloo (Tasky)

With

12

alive, it takes

7

to lynch, and

4

to lynch at deadline. Deadline is October 17 at 3:20 p.m. CST.

Not Voting – 3 – Antihero, Black Mist , GhostWriter

[petroleumjelly]

Scene to be added later.

danakillsu, Magician, has been lynched!

It is now

Night Three

. Choices are due October 13 at 7:00 p.m. CST.

Note

: Searching for a replacement for Black Mist.

[petroleumjelly]

Note

: SpyreX replaces Black Mist, effective immediately. Night will be extended by 24 hours only for SpyreX. If any other player has failed to submit their choice, the deadline has now passed.

[petroleumjelly]

Scene to be added later.

Budja, Magician, has been killed!

It is now

Day Four

. With

10

alive, it takes

6

to lynch, and

4

to lynch at deadline. Deadline is October 28 at 6:00 p.m. CST.

[SpyreX]

I'm even caught up and stuff.

Before I get into details:

D1 - understandable.
D2 - well done.
D3 - WHAT

Seriously. WHAT.

That makes me angry on every level you chuckleheads. All of you are in super secret probation now.

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3 MehPlusRawr (

Fate

, DrippingGoofball, Toogeloo)
1

danakillsu

(

Razgriz

)
1

Fate

(Antihero)
1 Toogeloo (Tasky)
Not Voting – 9 – SpyreX,

budja

,

danakillsu

, Ellibereth,

gandalf5166

, GhostWriter, Katsuki, MehPlusRawr, Cogito Ergo Sum

5 MehPlusRawr (DrippingGoofball,

gandalf5166

, Cogito Ergo Sum,

Razgriz

,

danakillsu

)
1 Tasky (Katsuki)
1

Fate

(Antihero)
1

gandalf5166

(

Fate

)
1 Toogeloo (Tasky)
Not Voting – 6 – SpyreX,

budja

, Ellibereth, GhostWriter, MehPlusRawr, Toogeloo

5

gandalf5166

(

Fate

, Katsuki, Cogito Ergo Sum, DrippingGoofball,

danakillsu

)
2

Fate

(Antihero,

gandalf5166

)
1 Katsuki (

budja

)
1 MehPlusRawr (

Razgriz

)
1 Toogeloo (Tasky)
Not Voting – 5 – SpyreX, Ellibereth, GhostWriter, MehPlusRawr, Toogeloo

7

gandalf5166

(

Fate

, Katsuki, Cogito Ergo Sum, DrippingGoofball,

danakillsu

, Ellibereth,

Razgriz

)
2

Fate

(Antihero,

gandalf5166

)
1

danakillsu

(GhostWriter)
1 Katsuki (

budja

)
1 Toogeloo (Tasky)
Not Voting – 3 – SpyreX, MehPlusRawr, Toogeloo

7

gandalf5166

(

Fate

, Katsuki, Cogito Ergo Sum, DrippingGoofball,

danakillsu

,

Razgriz

, Ellibereth)
2

Fate

(Antihero,

gandalf5166

)
1 SpyreX (MehPlusRawr)
1

danakillsu

(GhostWriter)
1 Katsuki (

budja

)
1 Toogeloo (Tasky)
Not Voting – 2 – SpyreX, Toogeloo

7

gandalf5166

(

Fate

, Katsuki, Cogito Ergo Sum, DrippingGoofball,

danakillsu

, Ellibereth,

Razgriz

)
2

Fate

(Antihero,

gandalf5166

)
1

danakillsu

(GhostWriter)
1 Katsuki (

budja

)
1

Razgriz

(MehPlusRawr)
1 Toogeloo (Tasky)
Not Voting – 2 – SpyreX, Toogeloo

8

gandalf5166

(

Fate

, Katsuki, Cogito Ergo Sum, DrippingGoofball,

danakillsu

, Ellibereth,

Razgriz

, Toogeloo)
1

danakillsu

(GhostWriter)
1

Fate

(

gandalf5166

)
1 Katsuki (

budja

)
1

Razgriz

(MehPlusRawr)
1 Toogeloo (Tasky)
Not Voting – 2 – Antihero, SpyreX

Day 2

5

danakillsu

(GhostWriter, MehPlusRawr, Toogeloo, Antihero,

Razgriz

)
1 SpyreX (Ellibereth)
1

Razgriz

(Katsuki)
1 Toogeloo (

danakillsu

)
Not Voting – 5 – Tasky, SpyreX,

budja

, DrippingGoofball, Cogito Ergo Sum

6

Razgriz

(Katsuki,

danakillsu

, Antihero, GhostWriter, MehPlusRawr, Ellibereth)
2

danakillsu

(Toogeloo,

Razgriz

)
Not Voting – 5 – Tasky, SpyreX,

budja

, DrippingGoofball, Cogito Ergo Sum

5

Razgriz

(

danakillsu

, Antihero, GhostWriter, MehPlusRawr, Ellibereth)
2

danakillsu

(Toogeloo,

Razgriz

)
Not Voting – 6 – Tasky, SpyreX, Katsuki,

budja

, DrippingGoofball, Cogito Ergo Sum

7

Razgriz

(

danakillsu

, Antihero, GhostWriter, MehPlusRawr, Ellibereth, Toogeloo,

Razgriz

)
Not Voting – 6 – SpyreX, Katsuki,

budja

, DrippingGoofball, Tasky, Cogito Ergo Sum

Day 3

2

danakillsu

(Katsuki, MehPlusRawr)
1 SpyreX (Cogito Ergo Sum)
Not Voting – 9 – Antihero, SpyreX,

danakillsu

, Ellibereth, GhostWriter,

budja

, DrippingGoofball, Tasky, Toogeloo

5

danakillsu

(Katsuki, MehPlusRawr, Cogito Ergo Sum, Ellibereth,

budja

)
1 Katsuki (

danakillsu

)
1 Toogeloo (Tasky)
Not Voting – 5 – Antihero, SpyreX , DrippingGoofball, GhostWriter, Toogeloo

7

danakillsu

(Katsuki, MehPlusRawr, Cogito Ergo Sum, Ellibereth,

budja

, DrippingGoofball, Toogeloo)
1 Katsuki (

danakillsu

)
1 Toogeloo (Tasky)
Not Voting – 3 – Antihero, SpyreX , GhostWriter

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So, what does this mean:

Mos Def at least 1 of (Kat, CEG, DGB) are scum. As per D1
After Raz's AWESOME STATEMENT that I can't believe you went along with I'll put money on there being a split D2 leaving (Anti, Ghost, MPR, Elli, TOG) / (SpyreX, Katsuki, DrippingGoofball, Tasky, Cogito Ergo Sum) as the split.
D3 I dont even know you chuckleheads. Why, lord, why. I'm thinking we're looking at a 1/1 split again (Anti, SpyreX, Ghost, Tasky) / (Kat, MPR, GES, Elli, DGB, Toog).

Now, comes the fun part:
Tasky is town.
Ghost is town.
That means the D3 Split points at Anti. Which, oddly enough, was one of my picks before I did this analysis (yea, you can't "trust" that. yea, you can also shut it).
Which means that the other lies in Kat, DGB, CEG (which, ODDLY ENOUGH is the same set as D1).

Personal call on that set? CEG by a margin. That is subject to change.

Unvote, Vote: Antihero

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

What the hell are you on about with these splits? And who is CEG?

P.S.

Vote: SpyreX

[DrippingGoofball]

I agree that Tasky is town.

CES is scum.

[SpyreX]

I'm leanin that way too based on said parses and said nothings and post 584 sure doesn't help that.

I want some of my hardcore DGB lovin' though.

And Anti to dangle first, ya know.

[Toogeloo]

@Tasky:
I thought dana was scum at the beginning of Day 3 since the whole Day 2 ended entirely WIFOMy. Kat swung in in post #547 stating in such a way that it appeared he had a scan or some information. Look at the way the day flowed after that post. Elli and Budja both didn't think dana was scum, but they were swayed by Kat's statement. I said "regardless" because I saw the statement as well, but whether I believed Kat had a scan or not didn't sway my opinion that dana should have been the lynch of the day after that end of Day 2. Kat throws a final statement in at the end of the day that completely shoots his conviction and credibility to shit, but the sentiment he said is basically how I was feeling most the day based on the WIFOM he presented, and the way dana was attacked both Day 2 and Day 3 (and somewhat Day 1).


Anti could be a good possibility today I think. Budja died last night after having some conviction for lynching Anti yesterday, could be he died for it. Ghost also pointed out some shady behavior from Anti on Day 2.

DGB didn't alleviate any suspicions I had for Seraphim, so I would push for some pressure there as well. Day 3's biggest name, in my opinion, is Kat though. He had so much conviction that it looked as if he were selling us a scan, he even got Budja and Elli to switch their votes even after they said they thought dana was town. Then at the end, he lost that conviction and sounded more as if he wanted to analyze the flip, and really wasn't in a place where people should have trusted him.

CES continues to be anti-town posting his no content posts, so he shouldn't escape today unscathed I think either. Finally, MPR seems to have dropped off the suspicion radar, and shouldn't be let off the hook for sheeping since Day 2 started.


Interesting that CES votes you SpyreX btw. He wanted Black Mist (the person you replaced) dead at the beginning of Day 3 as well before switching over to dana. I would very much like CES to actually post some content and explain himself. I at least explained my disdain for Seraphim.


I would prefer not to let Kat get by without explaining himself, but I also want Anti to become more present. There are probably 5 people I wouldn't mind pressuring today (those 2 already mentioned, and the anti-town behavior coming from CES, MPR, and DGB [plus my previous distaste for Seraphim relating DGB]), for now though I will go with the one of two votes I like better.

Vote: Anti

My primary question now would be, are we looking at 4 scum or 5 possible? The game states in the special rules that only the Hypnotists being the only faction against the town, and on the nights of kills, only 1 death has occured. If we are looking at 3 strikes style setup, we could be in MyLo at the moment if the game started with 5 scum, right? Or is it more likely that the game only has 4 scum (3 seems too little, 6 game would be over)?

[SpyreX]

With 16 night start its probably 4. Maaaybe 5 but I haven't seen anything that would make that make sense.

I like you Mr Genma we're gonna go places.

[Katsuki]

Oh, spy is black mist replacement.

Vote: spyrex

Dana's flip leads me to believe that black mist was scum.

[SpyreX]

Swinging at a replacement directly for the replaced is ballsy, I'll give you that.

That swing NOW doubly so after not reading or commenting on the words? That could be suicide.

[GhostWriter]

People replacing in for a player who appeared scummy and actually is scum often have nice little replace in posts. No matter how nice the post, Black's actions aren't going to be erased. That being said, I'd rather focus elsewhere for now. You need time to show us who you are so that we can form an opinion of you separate from Black Mist. Opening posts rarely do it for me.

I can't decide if I want to add pressure to Elli or join in on pressuring Anti just yet. I think I'll watch to see how Anti treats the current pressure/what Elli has to say upon posting this new day before making my choice.

[SpyreX]

Votes aren't forever.

Waiting around is, though.

[GhostWriter]

When used correctly, the threat of a vote can have as much of a reaction as the placing of the actual vote. Furthermore, the two are neck-and-neck for who should get the vote, and I'm not flipping a coin or anything like that to determine it. The votes will happen based on what I previously said.

[SpyreX]

I wont derail this TOO much right now because I've got good vibes on you and its the kind of derail that lets things squeak through but with no recourse on the vote at this juncture and laying out everything there is no difference between "the threat" of a vote and an actual vote - except that you didn't put your hand to the paper.

It's not lylo, there's no magic hammers and threatening a vote only looks like pointless handwringing.

[Katsuki]

Well spy, as I said, dana's flip says a few things for me. Granted there are a few possibilities, but I will reconsider them when I have time.

[DrippingGoofball]

SpyreX is town, guys. Nothing to see there.

[Tasky]

Re: SpyreX 583

"Mos Def at least 1 of (Kat, CEG, DGB) are scum. As per D1"

I think I can agree with that. not much gained though, since we are 10 players and assuming 4 scum (which seems reasonably considering they are the only anti-town faction) there are 3 left. so there is one scum every 3,33 players.

"After Raz's AWESOME STATEMENT that I can't believe you went along with I'll put money on there being a split D2 leaving (Anti, Ghost, MPR, Elli, TOG) / (SpyreX, Katsuki, DrippingGoofball, Tasky, Cogito Ergo Sum) as the split."

what awesome statement are you talking about.

"D3 I dont even know you chuckleheads. Why, lord, why. I'm thinking we're looking at a 1/1 split again (Anti, SpyreX, Ghost, Tasky) / (Kat, MPR, GES, Elli, DGB, Toog).

Now, comes the fun part:
Tasky is town.
Ghost is town.
That means the D3 Split points at Anti. Which, oddly enough, was one of my picks before I did this analysis (yea, you can't "trust" that. yea, you can also shut it)."

I am totally not sold on this split thing. I can agree that the day two split probably has 2:1 (or 1:2) scum, but I totally don't think it is impossible for the two that all scum were on the wagon. look, everyone was shooting at dana, the wagon went terribly fast. I really wouldn't be surprised if all scums were on it.
and, btw, I'm absolutely not sure yet whether you or Ghost are town.

Re: DGB 585, Why do you think I am town?
Re: DGB 596, Why do you think SpyreX is town?
Re: DGB 574, What happened to this?

Re: Toogeloo 587, yeah, you are scum.
why exactly are you voting Anti? Why aren't you voting Katsuki?
what would you do if I claimed cop with a guilty on you?


Re: Katsuki 595, what did the dana flip tell you? how could you be so sure they were scum day 3 when they actually were town?
your scumminess level is quite high.


Re: Ellibereth 572/Toogeloo 573, NOW TELL ME, WHAT WAS THERE BETWEEN THE LINES THAT I MISSED?

@PEOPLE:

answer my questions:

Re: Ellibereth 572, show me then. just because everybody is in the set {people who THINK to see something}+{scum} it doesn't mean dana is scum. How do you explain your flip flop there? ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. YOUR CAPS ARE NOT GOING TO GET YOU AROUND THEM!
Re: Toogeloo 573, I don't understand the second part of your statement? you see what everyone's on about, dana should go

regardless

(

?huh?

)
Re: DGB 574, yes. But why do YOU think it?

PS: every townie on dana's wagon can consider himself an idiot.

[SpyreX]

BTW my results are really only gonna find 2 scum - the third is an outlier for the moment.

The awesome statement was the I got bussed yo especially by dana during that vote. That, REALLY, should have been a near-clear.

[Tasky]

The awesome statement was the I got bussed yo especially by dana during that vote. That, REALLY, should have been a near-clear.

ok