Open 245 - Mini Love - Scum win!

[Mr.Sandman]

quadz08 (5): ZeroFang, Tasky, drmyshottyizsik, Nexus, don_johnson
Tasky (1): quadz08

Not voting (4): Mokujin_, WingsOWisdom, tvellalott, Wisteria

10 alive, 6 to lynch

Deadline Monday 18th October, 10PM GMT

Looking for replacements for WingsOWisdom and Mokujin_

Prodding tvellalott

[Wisteria]

I am growing ever impatient, so I will drop the hammer now.

VOTE: quadz08

I feel rather good about this lynch, actually, though I fear this may have come at a cost that was unnecessarily high.

quadz08's effort to get Tasky lynched seems a little too last-ditch, and I am wondering if he is not framing Tasky. It is of much more benefit to scum to get town to mislynch today, and Tasky was already under attack for some of the stances he has taken. Judging from what I have read of one of Tasky's games, I do not think Tasky is scum. That is mostly a gut read, however.

tvellalott is the better option for tomorrow, in my opinion. If I were to pick a second suspect, I would pick Mokujin_ for some of the things he said that felt questionable. I would not overlook the WingsOWisdom slot, either; the lurking appears to be a null tell, but that slot is devoid of reads and needs to be examined as soon as possible.

The above still stands in the event that quadz08 flips town.

I want more participation from Nexus. I realize that he has been busy, but he is, as far as I can tell, the strongest town read in this game (thanks to Battousai), so his opinions would be very valuable.

I think that is it for today. Best of luck to everyone.

[quadz08]

*facepalm*

Dammit, man. You couldn't even let any damn discussion go on about my perfectly valid, good idea? Ugh.

I still say look at Tasky; I'll try to get a re-read/brief ISOs before night falls, but I can't guarantee anything.

[Wisteria]

Your idea only works if we lynch correctly. The way I worked it out, the benefits of lynching a mafia goon today are minor compared to the potential consequences of mislynching. If you are town, the benefits are even smaller, and the consequences are even greater. I already blew it when I claimed to get you lynched, so the only option from there was to go through with this lynch.

[Tasky]

*facepalm*

Dammit, man. You couldn't even let any damn discussion go on about my perfectly valid, good idea? Ugh.

I still say look at Tasky; I'll try to get a re-read/brief ISOs before night falls, but I can't guarantee anything.

so you are town?

[quadz08]

Yes, I am.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Tasky you already knew the answer to that question

[ZeroFang]

In other words we just lynched our lovers.

[drmyshottyizsik]

^^yep

[don_johnson]

you guys are freakin' clowns. wisteria, you effectively self hammered. you just gave the rest of the field an "out" for responsibility with this lynch. if quadz isn't being a giant dick, we at least have a confirmed scum out there. unfortunately, lynching them tomorrow won't be an option. it seems we're walking right into this one...

[quadz08]

I agree.

[Mr.Sandman]

quadz08 (6): ZeroFang, Tasky, drmyshottyizsik, Nexus, don_johnson, Wisteria
Tasky (1): quadz08

Not voting (3): Mokujin_, WingsOWisdom, tvellalott

10 alive, 6 to lynch

Confusion reigned in the town. Even in love it seemed, they did not trust one another. Wisteria was the first one to come forward, suspicious of her lovers claim that he merely eating leftover pizza when he disappeared every night, and not having an affair with a group of villains. quadz08 was hurt, both by the lack of trust, and by the subsequent punishment for his alleged infidelity, which in this case, involved death by hanging. When Wisteria discovered that they had killed

quadz08, Lover, Town aligned

, she cried a lot. She knew life would be unbearable without him, so she jumped off the nearest bridge. Evidence was found amongst her crumpled remains, that she was

Wisteria, Lover, Town aligned

. Night fell once more.[/i]

It is now nighttime. Night will last 72 hours or until I get all roles in and players replaced that need replacing

[Mr.Sandman]

It had been a long night. So long in fact, that three of the residents had evolved into different people. This news would be plastered across the front pages of the town gazette, relegated to second place only by the revelation that the mafia had struck again, and that this time,

ZeroFang, Townie

had been the victim. His death only served to galvanise the town however, who laid him to rest in the increasingly crowded cemetery. Today, they would hold another vote.

7 alive, 4 to lynch

Deadline in 3 weeks

moose200x replaces WingsOWisdom
Sevei replaces Mokujin_
Consigliere replaces tvellalott

[Tasky]

lovers claim. NOW. we lynch the Treacherous Lover.

[Tasky]

noooo wait. I just thought this over.

if we lynch the Treacherous Lover we lose:
7=3(VT),2(scum),1-1(loverpair)
day lynch lovers -> 3,2
nightkill -> 2,2 LOSE

we have to go for the goons:
7=3(VT),2(scum),1-1(loverpair)
day lynch goon -> 3,1,1-1
nightkill:
if lovers -> 3,1 standard endgame setup
if townie -> 2,1,1-1
day lynch goon -> 2,1-1
nightkill:
if lovers -> 2,0 WIN
if townie -> 1,1-1
lynch lovers -> 1,0 WIN

but lover should still out themselves, since scum already know them and there is no reason to risk lynching them at this point.

[drmyshottyizsik]

still the lovers need to claim so we know who they are

[don_johnson]

Scumhunt first. Claiming later.
Rereading thread asap.

[drmyshottyizsik]

no!! We should not tunnle on the scum pair because THEY ARE SCUM!!!
So once they go away we can choose from the remaining 5

[don_johnson]

Claiming = bad. R u afraid to name suspects? Much more info comes from letting scum play without a claim...

[moose200x]

I skimmed the thread and was going to reread and make a nice little post about stuff, but I decided to just out my FoS from first skim read and see if other thought this member was scummy.

My fos is Battousai, my second fos is tasky


Oh and the lover needs to claim, I disagree with you doc whole heartily

[drmyshottyizsik]

Moose, I want a claim, Don doesnt

[moose200x]

Sorry, meant DON not DOC...... as always I screwed up lol

[drmyshottyizsik]

to much toping man?

[Consigliere]

A claim is in order...but is it necessary RIGHT NOW? So long as we don't rush headlong into things, a little posturing can go a long way.

That was an odd opening of the day Tasky...Logic machine runnin' overtime there fella?

I'd like to hear from Mukojin's replacement, Sevei...So I'll place FoS there....as that spot went from L-1'ing a now-dead townie that was inactive before the replacement came forward (who shortly thereafter was lynched by moose's current spot-thus unproven) on day 1 to a disappearing act.

[Nexus]

Hey, I'm here, just semi-vla until Sunday.