Mafia 121 -- Picking Simplicity Game Over
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AGar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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What in fuck's sake are you talking about?LynchMePls wrote:Well it matters if you call someone scummy for doing it but not someone else. Isn't this obvious?Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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Empking Empking's Alt's Alt
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I'm not certain what you're asking but...Yosarian2 wrote:
LMP had only made a few posts by this point, and none of them looked especially scummy to me. Want to explain yourself, empking?Empking wrote:
3. Because you're the scummiest player so it looks like he's trying to avoid a connection.
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1. There's a reason that point was last.
2. LMP liked Jack's claim. Town was like "Ugh" but LMP had to guess as to the feelings of the town with nothing to go on (he posted first) and he guessed completely wrong.Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi-
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Lowell Jack of All Trades
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I think there's every chance jack is VT and having some fun. As well, with TWO killing factions both intent on destroying each other, the set-up in some ways makes jack's claim safer.
Regardless, I'd agree with the statement "In general, I'd prefer Jack hadn't done that," but I don't think it's so cut-and-dry as to make LMPs enthusiasm the basis for a D1 lynch.-
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UncertainKitten Maid In Japan
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Nik
1. No it wasn't! Yes it was! No it wasn't! Yes it was!
2. No it wasn't! Yes it was! No it wasn't! Yes it was!
3. I've already said what I consider the big slip at the time was.Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi-
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Glork Burdened by Proficiency
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This vote gets an A++.UncertainKitten wrote:Unvote, Vote Lowell-
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Haylen Life of the Third Party
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I'm not sure what to make of Jack's SK 'obsession', however, I could see the potential for him being SK but I'm not going into that because it's a complete WIFOM argument.
Hey guys,
Who at the present time is the most scummy to you all? and Why?
Will you be happy with lynching Jack if both of those power roles are lynched/night killed? Needless to say, I will certainly be reading himin iso during the night.
Now I'm gonna get back to anime club.Seriously. Read your role PM before playing.
I am sorry if you have to prod me, I have absolutely no concept of time.
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LimMePls Mafia Scum
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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!? Who am I accusing of being scum for disagreeing with me? I want quotes.Glork wrote:I love how LMP tries to rail on me for "disagreeing with Glork" and then uses the "you're parroting" and/or accuses everyone who disagrees with him of being scum.
MAXIMIZE THE HYPOCRISY.
Antihero wrote:Who are these others?Empking wrote:LMP: What are you trying to do with this discussion?
These two off the top of my head. I think there may have been others. Are you paying attention to the game?AGar wrote:Why does it matter?
I like Empking already.
What exactly is hard to understand. I'll be happy to try and clarfiy if you give me more than this.UncertainKitten wrote:I have no idea what LMP is trying to say.
That quote wasn't being overly concerned with what others think about me, it was acknowledging that the question was designed to make me look bad no matter how I answered it. I'm not supposed to object to questions like that?Yosarian2 wrote:On the other hand, this is kind of scummy, in an "overly concerned about what people think about him" kind of way.
I seriously don't understand how this can be confusing, I've played with you before and I know you're a smart person. Empking says Nikanor's non-sequitor is scummy. I point out that Nikanor's statment was actually just a joke in reference to your non-sequitor. Empking says "A statement in response to a non-sequitor is a non-sequitor" (something I'm not even sure I agree with). So I say if Empking thinks Nikanor doing it is scummy, but doesn't point out when you (AGar) did the same thing, that bears mentioning. Its a double standard. Why is it ok for you to make a joke about "is it ok for me to post in (insert comical posting style)?" but it's not ok when Nikanor did the same thing.AGar wrote:
What in fuck's sake are you talking about?LynchMePls wrote:Well it matters if you call someone scummy for doing it but not someone else. Isn't this obvious?
Do I need to quote the posts in order? Will that make it easier to understand?
Bullshit. It wasn't a guess about what others think. I thought it was fine for a number of reasons:I'm not certain what you're asking but...
1. There's a reason that point was last.
2. LMP liked Jack's claim. Town was like "Ugh" but LMP had to guess as to the feelings of the town with nothing to go on (he posted first) and he guessed completely wrong.
1) I didn't see a scum motivation to a gambit like that (one has since been pointed out to me).
2) Jack could be telling the truth, but scum can't know if targetting him is good or not, since there is likely going to be a protect on him.
3) Jack could be gambiting as a VT. In that case, scum might just kill him (instead of a PR), or if he gets protected, scum waste an NK.
4) Jack's meta is full of D1 gambits like this, increasing the WIFOM quotient for the scum, and making their ability to guess whether he is telling the truth or not very difficult.
Lets not forget it also gave us something concrete to talk about, leading us out of RVS. For all those reasons, I was fine with his claim.
Antihero, I've already explained why.Haylen wrote:Who at the present time is the most scummy to you all? and Why?
Will you be happy with lynching Jack if both of those power roles are lynched/night killed? Needless to say, I will certainly be reading himin iso during the night.
No. I find Jack gambiting-town in this situation pretty likely.
Why don't YOU answer these questions? We've all been participating in the game, and for most of us our answers are apparent from reading the thread."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
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Glork Burdened by Proficiency
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Read again, genius. I didn't say you accused them of scum BECAUSE they disagreed with you. But you've attacked everyone who has happened to share a different opinion of you, a mere page after you tried to get me in trouble for doing the same thing.LynchMePls wrote:
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!? Who am I accusing of being scum for disagreeing with me? I want quotes.Glork wrote:I love how LMP tries to rail on me for "disagreeing with Glork" and then uses the "you're parroting" and/or accuses everyone who disagrees with him of being scum.
MAXIMIZE THE HYPOCRISY.
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Jack Jack of All Trades
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Votecount 1.02
LynchMePls - 4 - Glork, Empking, eldarad, Azazel
Empking - 2 - Lowell, Nikanor
Lowell - 2 - VasudeVa, UncertainKitten
Sudo_Nym - 2 - SnakePlissken, Xine
Agar - 1 - mothrax
Antihero - 1 - LynchMePls
Glork - 1 - AGar
Haylen - 1 - Haylen
Nikanor - 1 - Antihero
Xine - 1 - Jack
Not Voting: CJMiller, Far_Cry, Sudo_Nym, Yosarian2
With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.
Deadline: November 17
Random notes:
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LimMePls Mafia Scum
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This is a lie. Off the top of my head I know UK has said she finds me scummy, and I've never attacked UK. I'm sure there are others too.Glork wrote:
Read again, genius. I didn't say you accused them of scum BECAUSE they disagreed with you. But you've attacked everyone who has happened to share a different opinion of you, a mere page after you tried to get me in trouble for doing the same thing.LynchMePls wrote:
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!? Who am I accusing of being scum for disagreeing with me? I want quotes.Glork wrote:I love how LMP tries to rail on me for "disagreeing with Glork" and then uses the "you're parroting" and/or accuses everyone who disagrees with him of being scum.
MAXIMIZE THE HYPOCRISY.
"LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
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Haylen Life of the Third Party
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Don't feel like it right now. I'm ill. I find it difficult to get any kind of read on Day One and prefer to try to gather information in the best ways I can - the first of which has not worked this game. I will howeverLMP wrote:Why don't YOU answer these questions? We've all been participating in the game, and for most of us our answers are apparent from reading the threadUnvote Vote Lowell.Seriously. Read your role PM before playing.
I am sorry if you have to prod me, I have absolutely no concept of time.
My prefered pronoun set is "cie/cir/cirs[elf]" but they is more than acceptable.-
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Haylen Life of the Third Party
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PS. You don't need to get so effing defensive over a couple of simple questions a person asks to try and scumhunt.Seriously. Read your role PM before playing.
I am sorry if you have to prod me, I have absolutely no concept of time.
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Antihero al;kdjfal;kj
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Yeah, I don't see anything about nitpicking in either of those posts.LMP wrote:These two off the top of my head. I think there may have been others. Are you paying attention to the game?
Please try again.
@Nik:
Glork calling you down on your BS logic of:
elicited this response:Glork wrote:Not posting it doesn't mean that nobody else is thinking it. Don't even try this sort of non-logic with me.
I don't know if this is some kind of joke or what, but this doesn't address Glork's point. At all.Nik wrote:I wasn't thinking it and UK wasn't thinking it. If neither of us were thinking it, then nobody was!
Nik for the crappy attacks, and LMP for both nitpicking and crappy attacks.Haylen wrote:Who at the present time is the most scummy to you all? and Why?
I don't see how continued discussion about this right now is pro-town in any way.Haylen wrote:Will you be happy with lynching Jack if both of those power roles are lynched/night killed?
This is bizarre. Why are you waiting until then? Do you mean RL night or game night?Haylen wrote:Needless to say, I will certainly be reading himin iso during the night.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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Holy crap, you guys post quick. I'm here, I was just working.
The oddest post I've seen that hasn't been commented on. Is there any special reason for this?Jack wrote:I think yos is scum.One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.-
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eldarad Mafia Scum
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Oh, you put a disclaimer in your post when you voted? That makes it alright then!Azazel, post 111 wrote:I also never claimed that antihero was scum. In fact, I even made a disclaimer in the post that I voted that I didn't think that antihero was scum persay but that voting him was better than alternatives available at the time.
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Nikanor, how come you haven't moaned at Jack for giving the SK advice on who to kill? How is Jack's post different to the one of Glork's you had a problem with earlier?
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@Haylen - I don't really have a scumread on anyone at the moment. I'm interested in LMP and Nik, and I guess Azazel to a lesser extent, based solely on the quote above.-
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eldarad wrote: Nikanor, how come you haven't moaned at Jack for giving the SK advice on who to kill? How is Jack's post different to the one of Glork's you had a problem with earlier?fos:elderad
How is advising the sk to kill scum similar to advising the scum to kill a town pr? Careless fake scumhunting-
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AGar He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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UNVOTE:
VOTE: LynchMePls
You're trying to paint me as scum for something I never even referenced. I made my joke, yes, and then never followed up on it. Not once did I mention Nikanor's play on my joke, I asked why you insisted on bringing it up. I said I like Empking because he was echoing the sentiment of why are you bringing it up.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
Get to know me. Or don't. I won't tell you what to do. I'm not God. Or your father. Or your boss.-
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Nikanor Jack of All Trades
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So because LMP had a different opinion, he's scum. Gotcha.Empking wrote:1. No it wasn't! Yes it was! No it wasn't! Yes it was!
2. No it wasn't! Yes it was! No it wasn't! Yes it was!
3. I've already said what I consider the big slip at the time was.
Haylen: Jack isn't an SK. If he isn't actually a PR, he's going to get lynched eventually. Unless he's playing to lose, he's not an SK.
Here, I'll address Glork's point in a way you might understand.Antihero wrote:I don't know if this is some kind of joke or what, but this doesn't address Glork's point. At all.
What I meant to say was that just because not nobody else was thinking it, doesn't mean that everybody was thinking it.
What Jack said. You didn't see me giving Glork flack for asking the SK to kill me.eldarad wrote:Nikanor, how come you haven't moaned at Jack for giving the SK advice on who to kill? How is Jack's post different to the one of Glork's you had a problem with earlier?
Empking is suspicious for his craplogic against me, so I'm going to leave my vote there for the time being. The people who haven't posted much yet need to get in here.I am in the bottom 10% of scumhunters onsite!
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