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vote: antihero

for being someone I haven't played with. And because people sometimes call me "hero", so obviously antihero must be anti-town.

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3 Housekeeping points:

1.

@mod: Do scum have daytalk?

2.

@mod: Do spaces count?

3. @players: Since there is no restriction on double

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posting, there's no excuse to not express complete thoughts.

But for the love of the gods, please don't spam a full page. Succinctness is pro-town anyways.

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I had a busy weekend and have more to do today, but I plan to catch up in <12 hrs.

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Equi and antihero: town/town as of page 2
minor fos: Korts's reaction

Auror scummy on pg 3. Active lurking
fos: Auror. Not a vote b/c I'm still catching up

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unvote

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Rayfrost 66/70:
please explain why you're 'not liking anti+tas,' and why anti shouldn't worry?
Rayfrost 87:
Reading tas's doesn't say much about your vote.

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@Fonz:
Could you multipost? Your contractions are a bit tough.
I had specific reasons for asking about daytalk.

Auror, I have. Here + here, at least.

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My mistake on the 1st of the above games, the mod specified but I missed it.

@Equi, I was in the above games, and some where we knew the scum had daytalk.

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I will not be voting for Fishy, Concise, Equi, or Anti today. Not sure about tasky. I mostly agree with Fishy.
Proscum attitude, but it doesn't mean he's scum.

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These 2 posts from Korts don't improve my opinion of his alignment, taken as a pair. Inconsistent.

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Done.
Not as sure about concise as I was before.
I'm tempted to sheep with Fishy, but Auror hasn't been as bad in the past few pages.
VOTE: Korts

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To save time:
1. Cellphone flavor and fast confirmations both suggest daytalk possible.
2. Scum act differently with daytalk.
3. Knowing is never bad.

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@Rayfrost:
Why say "It's gut, no worries."? Saying that seems to defeat any protown purpose (eg. pressure) for your post.

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D'oh, just figured out what "concise is me" meant. Was wondering about that 1-post lurker, until I rechecked the playerlist.
Kunk: Who is scum? Why?

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Kunk: Who is scum? Why?

This question has become time-sensitive. Please respond.

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This. My first thought was his attack on cry was bad, and in particular, it looks like distancing. I wanted to hear from kunk before making a new case, though.

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It bothers me how little had been said about Fonz's alignment up to pg 12. I hoped someone I was less confident about than anti might talk about him (eg. kunk.)

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I disagree.

VOTE: The Fonz

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On MS, that's usually it.

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Nothing. I was just waiting.

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why did you wait

Suppose kunk had chosen to push a strong case on fonz, then fonz flipped scum. That would indicate kunk was town.

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@Ray:
1. It's unlikely that people are simply following you. Look at the

specific

votes.
2. With all the games you play you must sometimes be 1st voter.

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3. What you said is a good reason to find townies. I know 1 certain and 3 very likely townies, with more currently auditioning.

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4. It takes a village to lynch the scum. Rainbow votecounts do nothing, while good wagons help (this point is theoretical, I'm not calling your votes good.)

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Kunk, I find it scummy b/c
1. cry had a reason for low activity which was supposed to end soon. (CTD)
2. she had already removed the "parked" vote.

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(CTD)- And when cry became more active (as seemed safe to assume) Fonz would have easy cover to unvote.

So it looked like distancing.

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@Fonz: Considering this, why not wait a day and see if her 'active lurking' continued?

(Her active lurking wasn't severe IMO. I see a few solid stances.)

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@Cry: I want your opinion of Korts. I'm pretty sure you're more familiar with him than anyone else here.

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Why did you feel the urge to defend yourself against such a minor point?

Nothing scummy about defending yourself from a small accusation.

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crywolf
Fishythefish
Korts
kunkstar7
mothrax
RayFrost

You signed up to participate. Post Or Perish. Tasky, talk about more than AV.

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unvote, vote mothrax

Have you played with tasky before?
What made fonz go from fos to null?
What did ray do to further scum goals?

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I've detected distancing before flips before. Not sure whether I've recognized it on day 1 in particular (in one game, I thought I saw it day 1 but was wrong.)

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Have you played with tasky before?

Never mind that question, you already answered. But tell us how tasky plays as scum/town.
Tasky: why the vote change?

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Mothrax needs pressure more than Fonz does. See this post. I didn't notice the wagon on him until you mentioned it.

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Tasky: why the vote change?

why not?

because

Not that you must be locked in, but is AV still scum?

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Kunkstar: Lurkers destroy games. Lurkerscum should be lynched, lurkertown should be ashamed of enabling the scum to lurk inconspicuously.

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Idk. I ISO'ed mothrax and found no towntells.

Cry gave a specific time when she would stop lurking; Fonz was so quick to attack her as soon as

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that time ended that it looked fake. Also the "parked vote" reason was already gone.

But considering cry's play since then...

VOTE: crywolf

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@Rayfrost:
Suppose we lynch scum today. Name a few players you think would be voting for the lynched scum.
@Kunk:
Suppose we lynch a townie. Same question.

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I didn't have any direction in mind, but your comment on being the first on wagons led me to think of it.

I'm a little surprised you didn't name yourself.

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I supposed I could've asked The Fonz the same thing

agree...

but he was explaining himself just fine

explain? I don't see the relevance.

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@Fonz: Is the same not true of me?
I've never (consciously) used that logic as scum, but maybe not everyone thinks the same way.

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v/la for 1-2 days

I have no objection to taskylynch, but wait until I'm back, ok?

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Back from v/la unexpectedly early...

@Fonz: How did his play differ in that game? Less lurky? More aggressive?

VOTE: tasky

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@AV: I see nothing about Tasky that makes me think he's town, I don't want him to be in the game at lylo, and my actual scumreads keep turing null or town.

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@AV: You'll find out otherwise soon enough, since I'm always killed N1 or N2.

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I feel a little uncomfortable about this white-knighting. It's unclear to me what your reason for defending me is.

I'm in the AV-is-town camp.

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Votes mothrax at the height of the wagon, L-2

I believe it was L-3.

Did you notice my 3 unanswered questions to you? Please respond.

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3rd: For me, no reason.

Reasons in this doublepost.

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That was earlier, not later.

Seems like you gave up the opportunity to test her alignment for that, though.

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@mod: do you want help finding replacements?

@fonz: If cry had tried to keep lurking, it would probably mean she was scum.

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What real point did I ignore? You said I was L-3. You said I gave no reason. False statements that you made,

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apparently with the intent of implicating me.

Of course I'm going to "nitpick" (i.e. correct) them

.

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Fair enough. Now, about that game Tasky dismisses. Did you read it? If so, how did tasky's play differ in that game from here? Less lurky? More aggressive?

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Did he do that in the game he dismissed?

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And again, what is the "real point" that I ignored? Wagoning mothrax? Do you think a 4-vote wagon is scummy? That there were reasons to think mothrax was town?

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Money quote here. Also makes effort to get game moving here.

After that, I'm keeping my vote. Also, this.

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2 things:
1. mothrax explained why he was lurking. He'd earlier said mom left hospital, that didn't look like a reason to lurk. But in 430 he said he was

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taking care of her.
2. crywolf didn't pick up participation after end of v/la.

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Could we see a voting chart/spreadsheet from someone who has made one?
It is my opinion that one of tasky or kunkstar is probably scum

unvote

, not sure which

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That doesn't sound right.
As both mafia or as town, I usually pursue people for scumminess. In this game, I don't have any strong scumreads at this time;

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tasky was just the least impressive of my null/slightly scummy reads.

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@VI:

I'll vote for AV if you will.

What about rayfrost?

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kunkscum:
Iso 1, 3 - buddying up to fonz, me respectively
180 on tasky
~low activity

kunktown:
questioning
~broad focus

Kunk: why the shift on tasky?

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^^ from my ISO of Kunk

H: What about RayFrost?

I was asking charter the question he answered in 771.

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chamber. I keep doing that when I play with either. Sorry to both of them.

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@Vi: Rayfrost keeps slipping toward scummy, then recovering. Bad vibes, parked votes, etc...
But this looks like something a townie would say. More later, GTG

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and I'm giving ray some benefit b/c I think his meta is to look scummier than he really is. (IIRC)

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@Ray: I answered in 388, 389, and 391.

@mod: Aurorus needs a prod

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Don't give me a meta pass. :raeg:

If it's true, I'll use it. I don't care about your ego as much as I care about accurate reads.

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@Vi: I wasn't trying to defend rayfrost; my read on him has cycled between scummy and null/leaningtown and I was giving examples of why.

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@Ray: when/why did you decide chamber was scum?

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How was that to AH? You said "hero never answered" a question related to my disagreeing with you.
You never mentioned cry - why, if she was scummy?

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And did chamber do anything to make your read on him more negative? The kunk vote? Explain your thought process there, especially considering he'd moved it.

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@Fonz: Tasky is wrong, but sincere, and makes

a lot of

some effort today, when he doesn't need to*, right?
* do you think he could have lurked and lived?

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@Fonz: If tasky's scum, I don't think he could have taken out you or AV. Drawing town support would have been hard.

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@Kast: AV started looking better from page 9. Responses to FtT, later questioning are good. Haven't reevaluated for a while, but TF's comments re:AV look right.

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This was mostly a defense of AV, basically calling them a protown scumhunter. Idk if my interpretation took it too far.

@Anti: ray as town? I'm ~skeptical.

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@Fonz: I noticed that you stopped at 2...

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AV hasn't been S/Hing any more than Task.

:incredulous face emoticon:

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At the very least, that he didn't do all in his power to figure out how best to help the town with that post.

:incredulous face emoticon:

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VOTE: kunkstar
Process of elimination, lack of helpfulness, switch on tasky, tasky wagon analysis*

@kunk: if you want to live, give us a better alternative

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@AV: Your 1034 is backwards. Equi meant that only scum would assume she

wasn't

lying.

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- and you're still voting him because _____

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though I'm convinced that tasky is capable of playing much better than one-line thoughts like he's been using here

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@Vi: I wasn't thorough about VCA, but:
Tasky(3): TF, Kunk, He
made me think "probably 1 scum. I'm not, and TF is better than null."
I admit, I was lazy --

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-- but I do think it's a non-null consideration. So 1 of tasky, kunk scum. kunk more likely than tasky.

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Fonz post-VC "gets it" (re: Tasky).

Is VC a player or votecount? I don't understand subject/object of sentence.

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n/m Vi, I figured it out

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false dilemma

key terms:
my opinion
probably

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Do AV's justifications look like AV believed them at the time, even if they don't work?

Did you see anything that looks like kunk wants to find scum?

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@Ray: a full answer would require an essay and 10 pages of MD.
Brief exmple: if 4 town reads were all voting for a null read, I'd consider joining that wagon.

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It was your absolutism that made me say I disagree. But feel free to plan to hold me to my answer in the future, no problem.

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@AV: do you think it's rational play for scum to fakesoftclaim vig on day 1?

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@Equi: you claiming at this point - I don't see the reason. It wouldn't prove AV-scum, regardless of your role.

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Even 1151 was antitown, IMO.

@AV: Nonsense. It was definitely a softclaim. Just very nonspecific.

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That isn't a reason to fullclaim. Or even say what little you've said.

edit: I don't think you've been obvious. Idk your role, and I don't care to.

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The only role I can imagine might be acceptable for you to claim is mason. Even that is unnecessary.
You won't be lynched today. Don't even think about claiming.

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EBWOP: AND DON'T CLAIM NOT-MASON, EITHER!

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@All: This post has the logic backwards, but looks self-convinced, and I don't see this as a mastermind plan to find out whether Equi is a cop.
If it was: wow.

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@Mod: Conversation in question starts here and continues to next page.

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If K* votes AV, and TF is still leaning toward voting K*, RF is critical. Ironic he was complaining about being first on wagons earlier. Off the fence time.

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AV, do you have any thoughts regarding the wagon on you?

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WOO DRUNKPOSTING
But I meant specifics. Like, which wagoners are scum?

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Who voted you b/c they thought you were scum, who voted you b/c they wanted a mislynch?
For bonus pointes, who didn't vote you b/c they wanted townie cred?

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K* should in theory answer the same question, but won't b/c they are lurkerscum.

Prev Edit: multipost?

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I predict that chamber's next post will be 100% true. Just a prediction.

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I expect to be around again before deadline.
In case there's a hammer, I'll probably have to wait and see you all at endgame. Thanks for playing, I've enjoyed.

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I'm not 100% committed to the K* lynch. We can discuss alternatives, but putting the votes together would be tough.

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Just did a reread.
K* and Equi flips do not change the town read I had on AV from D1. (CTD)

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Fonz asks Equi if list is top 3.
Fonz assumes Tasky's similar list is top 3.

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I hope TF can explain the difference -- why he would ask y/n question for Eq, but assume y for Tasky.

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Chamber's question to AV is suspect. If AV is cop, then AV 1310 suggests a guilty on chamber. So if chamber is town, he should not consider it likely (ctd)

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that AV is a cop (barring sanity/millerhood).

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Re: Vi:
At first, the switch to K* looked suspicious. But Vi did not need to join the K* wagon for it to happen. As scum, he would probably avoid it.

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Therefore, Vi is very likely town.
Same applies to chamber to some degree, but I don't see his hammer as involving the same risk Vi took.

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Fishy you state that my lack of access does not help me, yet every single post of yours has some sort of notice of not being here. how does that help you?

^cw409

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I want you to stay in the game, but I'm disappointed by how little you are here. Would a temporary replacement or hydra be possible?

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Hm. I'll hold off speculating further until AV either claims or dies, but your interpretation in 1349 is plausible.

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@Kast: Can you back up this comment about my meta? As I said before, it doesn't sound right. What specific lynches from previous games did you have in mind?

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And when I denied it at the time, why did you not respond or follow up?

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I may have forgotten some play I made a while ago, but ATM I suspect you may have made this up as a prepared excuse to join a potential future wagon on me.

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Bump with a
VOTE: Kast

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Tasky, AV, Anti have posted in other games but not here. :frown:

@Mod: RayF, Anti prods? No D2 posts.

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sorry, forgot Anti's V/LA.

I should start conversing with my alts itt.

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@Tasky: we should assume you're right because - why? Because you're using CAPS?
Nothing scummy about his early vote for you.

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And if you're faking sincerity again, I see no purpose. You already have a wagon on AV. There's a good chance scum is on that wagon.
Prev edit: that's to tasky

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@Fonz: respond please

@Kast: If AV is town, do you think chamber's D2 play indicates whether he is town or scum?
Separate question: which?

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To clarify, I want to know whether chamber's play D2 does or does not give you a strong tell on his alignment if AV is town.
And if it is town or scum.

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If a player says X>Y>Z, or X>Y>>Z, does that imply X, Y, Z are their top 3?

--

If yes, why ask Equi this?
If no, this post contains an unfair assumption.

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I was asking TF. What you were saying was clear to me all along.

My point is that TF's question to Equi is inconsistent with his assumption about you.

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I suppose this may not amount to much. I was trying to find points in TF's case on tasky that might have been made dishonestly; that was the most suspect.

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I don't feel comfortable fully trusting my gut reads right now, b/c I'm worrying about how the game will go if the scum include, for instance, AH or TF.

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Ray has used plenty of words but hasn't said much. D1 twilight comments not townish.

Is Kast coming back? No v/la accounced, but he wouldn't lurk as S or T.

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@Tasky: I like this post, but you forgot to answer this post.

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But Vi is right about Ray being subradar. I'm not convinced it outweighs the towntells, but it's a little scummy.

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Look at it this way. What has Ray accomplished in this game?

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No less than anyone else.

I disagree.
I believe I made my point clear in post 1402.

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chamber, it's ok if you want to wait for AV & Kast to return, but at some point in the near future please let us know your thoughts on Kast and Ray.

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@AV: I think chamber only wants you to claim if you're a cop, or if you aren't, to say so. It's up to you, though I doubt you'd be lynched today. I see no need.

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AH is doing the town no favors. Unless he can answer to this question, Ray doesn't merit the defense. (ctd)

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It's scant reason for Vi and AH to call each other scum, though. Vi is now a solid town read, AH is coasting from previous towniness.

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@Kast: The first example is a little right; that was part of my excuse. The second is completely wrong; I voted nopoint because he became "scummier" than you.

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We can talk about that now? The scum probably noticed it before, but just in case, it felt unwise to point it out. I suppose Kast gave Vi an acceptable reason.

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I now support chamber's request to AV -- if you're a cop, I feel you should say so and give us your N1 action/result.

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In retrospect, that's a terrible reason to ever vote Claus. He's a strong player who would have been an asset to that game.

unvote

I'm undecided.

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No, an off-topic continuation of my on-topic response to Kast.

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Ok, a potential tell, but I don't know what it is except that as an example it doesn't seem to support your point.

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Kast, are you intentionally being unclear and using layered references to confuse and frustrate the town?
That would be good scum play if no one recognized it.

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Let me try to reconstruct:
Ka: He's scum meta includes voting people for being liabilities
He: No! Examples?
Ka: E1, E2
He: E1 is slightly valid, but CTD

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He CTD: E2 is 100% wrong
Ka: E2 IDs a potential tell
He: But doesn't support your point
Ka: It's in response to your request
He: Let me try to reconstruct:

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That didn't work as well as I expected.

I'm trying to get at the fact that 1491 wasn't a request.

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But if 1493 is a response to the accusation that you're unclear, no. You've been unclear from at least ISO 7.

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Kast, that's a lie. E2 is in no way an example of voting a non-scummy player to keep them out of endgame, and you know it.

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Layered links from you include:

Link in 1463 is a 4post chain

1462 shows explicit suspicion of AV

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No, they weren't actual links, but that just made it worse because it required manually finding those posts, just to click on links they contained.

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@AV: Your role is already pretty obvious. I doubt you'll get much input.
The existence of a wagon on you looks like :badplay: and suspicious.

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I was thinking the same. Chamber's turn, to explain.

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Resigning to lose non-scummy player

as an endgame liability or because he isnt pro-T

is what you said.

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And I voted NPT because Ythill "convinced" me that nopoint was scummier than Kast. But this is getting out of hand. You may have meant what you say you meant.

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Yes, it is paranoid. That isn't a reason to suspect TF, just a reason to not assume he's town.

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I no longer think Kast was lying; the format made it look like ISO 2/3 said something more specific than K intended.

All 3 AV votes still look bad. (ctd)

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Still have a bit of a town read on Tasky.
Chamber needs to explain cop issue.
TF left this without followup - why?

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I do think AV is town. On day 1 he was scumhunting (though he's off track now) and the attacks on him were overdone.

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I don't have a top scumread. I want to hear from chamber about AV, and I want to see if Ray or AH feels like scumhunting.

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@Vi I said in 1510 that I think AV's specific role is easy to figure out. Ask me about it once there isn't anything to lose if he's outed.

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@TF: I expected you would do something like asking them questions to try to figure out which one was scum.

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There's also the fact that you're voting RF. He is scummy, true, but do you find him scummier than either Kast or chamber?

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@Tasky: There are other big clues that AV is town, but I'm holding on to some for now.

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Kast, it was sufficiently obvious to me that I expected everyone was thinking it but no one wanted to say.

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As for the rest, I've made it clear I want chamber to explain first. In case anyone intends to accuse me of copying his answer,
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H1563 - chamber is scummy?

IMO the only thing scummy about chamber is his approach to AV

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chamber's earlier behavior is redeeming

Could you be specific? chamber towntells? equally importantly, why is RF town?

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@chamber: I see you posted in another game twice, separated by >7 hrs (and changed your avatar?), but didn't post here.
Now chamber is becoming scummy.

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Yes, AV, it is. But asking another player who appears to be town for role information, then avoiding questions afterward about why you asked, is worse.

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I'll post here when I'm ready to.

When will you be ready to explain this? AV has claimed non-cop; show us the cop/scum tells.

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VOTE: chamber

Maybe the best way to deal with this is to lynch him if he doesn't answer.

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@Kast: Specific role.
As I said, I figured most players ("everyone" was an exaggeration) must know too.
I want chamber to explain first b/c (CTD)

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I don't want him to just copy my response. Post 1573 contains my answer, altered so that after chamber is done, I will reveal and it will be clear.

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Kast, I disagree greatly:
chamber* > RF > Kast = FtF = AH >> T > TF >> Vi > AV
*chamber's position depends on his next post. He needs more votes until then.

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IOW, AV-scum would have fakeclaimed.

But AV-town couldn't be a cop b/c they were okay with thinking Equi was a cop.

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1617/1618 are weird. You don't want to vote Kast b/c too many suspect him, but you just put RF at L-2.

@Mod: AH prod please

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@mod: RF, The Fonz, and Tasky prods next please

Kast: I'm sorry I can't fully explain all, but a lot of my thoughts are based on my ideas of AV's role, ctd

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which I don't want to share. Also I'm convinced your questioning won't lead anywhere, and will take tons of words, or even a Venn diagram, to answer.

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If I'm still around during lylo/mylo, I'll go to the trouble. Maybe.

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Finally, you may mean well with your questioning, but the thread is unhealthy. Four of ten players need prods but the thread is getting loaded with K/H/V posts.

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@AV: because the scum have no idea who has a PR :rolleyes:

@RF: OTOH, I find it a little odd that it took you only 60 seconds to go find a PM then report it.

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Ray, I wish you had played like page 67+ since page 1.

Passivity means you don't care about finding scum. How is that not the #1 scumtell?

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1732 is faulty. It's literally true, but misses the point.

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AV, are you saying the scum have at most a 50% cance of finding a PR to kill tonight?

[Herodotus]

The point: if you're town, scum have already gained knowledge. Lynching you removes that knowledge.

Lynch EV:
any scum>RF

if RF is town

>any other townie

[Herodotus]

Hey hero, why'd you answer that question for AV?

links to Q and A?

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1732 contains no questions to anyone, AV or otherwise.

[Herodotus]

No, he was defending himself with mistaken logic, not asking implicit questions.

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@chamber: are you saying that giving my opinion is bad? I didn't explain

why

it was faulty until RF asked me.

[Herodotus]

laying ground work to vote kast

Did you not see 1602 and 1605 as groundwork by me and AV to vote RF?

[Herodotus]

@chamber: is it scummy to use a scale that starts at 50?

[Herodotus]

I like RF now, and won't be hammering him any time soon.

VOTE: Antihero

/in b4 "you skipped over others" and "do you think chamber is town now?"