HOMJ wrote:1. you say NL is not anti-town, tell me how a no lynch can ever benefit from the town when vote analysis is thrown out of the window and it gives mafia a free kill
No lynch is usually used in a MYLO situation, where if the town mislynches and the mafia kill somebody the town would lose. In this situation, if the town doesn't lynch and the mafia kill, the pool for potential scum is less the next day and the town has a better chance at lynching scum.
2. why are you defending his vote for a NL, whether or not he expected it or not, no lynch suggestion should never be made, it is anti-town. even if it is rvs but it didn't even seem like an rvs vote to me
I'm not defending his no lynch suggestion, my point was that he never made a no lynch suggestion.
3. you also say I was pushing andrew's wagon but I never actually pushed for his wagon, why would you say that? - if you feel doom and TM's votes on hm are weak, why are you not directing your attention to him also instead of just at me?
I dont see how you weren't pushing his wagon since you seriously voted for him. I don't understand your second question.
4. yes he does suggest no lynch when he votes for it and why would you not vote for somebody who suggests something anti-town? you said there is a difference between anti-town and scummy and you are right. Anti-town is not town, scummy is bad but scummy =/= anti-town. If someone sugested something anti-town I definitely would go after them for it. why would you not? and how is not going after somebody suggesting anti-town helping town?
He did not suggest a no lynch because his vote was random. I randomly voted for TM, does that mean I was suggesting his lynch? I wasn't.
If somebody did something anti town, I would not vote for him. Although both anti town and scummy are bad, there is a significant difference. Anti town is usually a Townie who's play/suggestion is unkowingly detrimental to the town. Scummy is doing things that can be scum motivated in order to help yourself/the rest of the mafia appear more town. Not going after somebody that suggests something anti town doesn't help the town but neither does going after him.
5. I skipped the part where you asked which games I read, I will have to go back and find those if you really want me to, sorry I didn't do that earlier. Also Iunvoted him because I thought based on his meta he was furc being furc, but the more I re-read and read other games I found that not to be true, the clincher was the claim too early, obscure name, and failure to throw in the role. if you are going to claim you go all or nothing.
It's always important to post the games you read otherwise nobody could prove that your meta is correct.
6. yes I realize I unvoted him when he asked, but he had not done it yet. asking if he can and actually doing it without someone asking him to claim are 2 different things. Claim should be done at L-1 and typically when someone asks for it, now because of the other site I play, if I get to L-1 I will claim without being asked because I have been hammered more times than I can count without given a chance to claim and sadly I have hammered people without allowing them to claim and been town when I did it.
I agree that claiming should be done at L-1. But I still don't see the difference between asking to claim at L-3 and claiming at L-3.
7. how do you seem so sure foilist wasn't serious
For one thing he claimed 3 roles and completely contradictory wincons. He also posted this which implies that he was joking-
Foilist wrote:If I say completely serious will you believe me?
Olivia Dunham is the star of the show. She's an FBI agent and works for fringe division (they deal with paranormal stuff). The way the show works is they get random science majors in college, give them LSD, and write whatever they see into the show. Walternate is the alternate universe version of Walter Bishop who is an insane but brilliant scientist, and the cab driver appeared in one episode in the second season and really isn't very important at all.
HOMJ wrote:8. I thought mod would pick up on my comment and just do it, if I was a mod I would not wait til somebody bolded the request.
That depends on the mod. When I mod, I usually wait until it's bolded.
9. I actually think you are wrong, I think it is more if furc is scum than LC is possibly scum with him.
From the way you wrote it, it seemed like it was the other way.
10 . I never understood why you voted me without a reason, you ask me a bunch of questions but you never actually say ANYTHING about me being scummy and what exactly is scummy about it. also if you ask people questions don't you think they deserve proper time to respond before voting them? is that proper town mentality to ask a bunch of questions and vote them in the same post? if so than this site truely is strange.
I don't specifically state my reasons, they are scattered throughout my post and are usually phrased as questions. My vote shows that I think you're scummy, why would I need to say it? I voted for you because of your previous actions, I already think you're scummy. How you answer the questions will change my vote or make it stronger.
at zang, one more thing. why a FOS at furc and not a vote or at the very least an unvote?
Because I'm voting for you, I think you're scummier and I wanted your response to my post.
furcolow wrote:not like im a doctor or anything
Are you claiming?
HOMJ wrote:Lord, you really think both fur and I are scum together?
I think it's possible. You are both scummy and you could be bussing.