StrangerCoug's Worst Nightmare IIIS: The Dungeon (Game over)

[chesskid3]

lo stesso

[Tasky]

ok, after KoC posted that big post, can we go back to serious things and vote Chronopie?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ok, after KoC posted that big post, can we go back to serious things and vote Chronopie?

Reasoning for voting Chrono is... What exactly?

If you are aiming to lynch a Sage claim, why would you choose Chrono over Substrike?

If it has nothing to do with the sages, what exactly makes you feel like Chrono is the best lynch today?

[Tasky]

ok, after KoC posted that big post, can we go back to serious things and vote Chronopie?

Reasoning for voting Chrono is... What exactly?

If you are aiming to lynch a Sage claim, why would you choose Chrono over Substrike?

If it has nothing to do with the sages, what exactly makes you feel like Chrono is the best lynch today?

sages? what are you talking about?

[Parama]

I see a wall of "Your logic sucks, I hate your playstyle, and why are these people alive" from Knight. I love how you don't vote. It's pretty neato. I wish you'd vote me.

BTW if you're calling me bad scum you really haven't seen my scumgame I'm willing to put your little rant on my posts as a playstyle difference, because I don't feel like giving logic every time I change a read.

Town:

Tasky
LLD
The Stove
smargaret

Null:

Antihero
Twomz
chesskid3
Nachomamma8
Knight of Cydonia
xvart
manho

Scum:

Chronopie
Espeonage

I want to make something happen.

vote: Espeonage

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ok, after KoC posted that big post, can we go back to serious things and vote Chronopie?

Reasoning for voting Chrono is... What exactly?

If you are aiming to lynch a Sage claim, why would you choose Chrono over Substrike?

If it has nothing to do with the sages, what exactly makes you feel like Chrono is the best lynch today?

sages? what are you talking about?

Pardon me, and excuse that post. I happen to be playing LoZ:OoT Mafia, which Chrono is also in.

I got confused as to which game I was posting in. @_@

[Parama]

You know you're playing too much mafia when...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm only in 2 games damn it!

>.<

[Parama]

And one of them is OoT.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Chronopie (3): chesskid3, Tasky, Antihero
Espeonage (5): Knight of Cydonia, The Stove, Lady Lambdadelta, manho, Parama
manho (3): Twomz, Chronopie, Nachomamma8
The Stove (1): xvart
Not voting (2): Espeonage, smargaret

With

14

players alive, it takes

8

votes to lynch.

DEADLINE IS MONDAY, NOVEMBER 29, 2010 AT 7:00 PM MST.

Careful keeping games straight, Lady Lambdadelta.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And one of them is OoT.

QFT

[Twomz]

The machine will now decide your fate.

unvote, vote Espeonage

L-2

[Tasky]

chronipie vote > espeonage vote

[Parama]

You're very terribly wrong, Tasky.

[Tasky]

You're very terribly wrong, Tasky.

how would you know?

[xvart]

I dunno. I need to talk this over with AGar I guess. Does the town in general have any desire to see a Parama wagon?

I wouldn't be against it, but as I told him, I have other fish to fry.

Re: xvart in Post 429 (P18) - second-guessing whether the mod has put all restrictions on one side or not is a really bad idea in bastard mod games, and should be avoided. Judge them on their behaviour, and all alike, not on their posting restriction. Having said that, I will now completely contradict myself and admit I would be entirely unsurprised by the guy speaking Italian being a Mafioso.

I was judging chesskid on his behavior; after the fact. I placed my vote on a post restricted person purely based on vote location on the previous days wagon. Then he went all scum mode and scummy defense and that is why I continued to push his lynch.

Somewhere in that wall of text I think you said something about PZ calling for vig shots and vig bait... I remember one of those vig shots being Nobody Special and he flipped scum. Does anyone have some meta background on PZ if he likes to call for his scum pals vigs as scum? It seems like an easy way to bus your partner with no likely ramifications of it actually happening. I'll have to go back and see if they had said anything about NS prior to the vig bait claim.

I'll also let AGar explain the BE case bit.

Good. I can't wait.

We haven't intentionally lied about anything, so no. Again, I'll let AGar address this.

So you unintentionally said there was a outlined case somewhere when there wasn't?

It seems if you are confident in your lynch target you would want to rally the troops to get a lynch, and the fact that you really did not say anything about BE at all is very telling.

lol wow. I'm gonna let you go back and correct yourself on this one.

My apologies. When I said "you really did not say anything about BE" I meant "you didn't really say anything of substance". Better?

The case on BE, and on several of the players in this game, is that they aren't doing anything. If I help lynch all the lurkers, and the VIs, and the people not paying attention, and the people not trying, then I'm either going to hit scum or I'm going to get rid of dead weight. Either way, when the game comes down to the wire, the town is in a far better position to win. BE, and espeonage, and LLD, and Tasky, and Toon Fighter, and manho and etc fit this bill. (you're being actively destructive, there's a difference)

But this doesn't really match what you've been saying. In fact, nothing in your posts suggests that this was the case. You rattle off the BE needs to die, NAO, something about BE revving up the diesel bus, his stated connection between you and LLD, and a few other things of no particular substance or note. And if the case on BE is that he wasn't contributing, why do you need to wait for Agar to comment about it? The fact that you backpeddaled on your outlined case of BE by telling me to ISO BE means that his scumminess was in his ISO; but you now say it was because of his lack of contribution?

Your case? You didn't put together a case. You regurgitated some posts from other players.

No shit. I've said that a half dozen times. Let me jog your memory: I pulled together why people were voting for BE (and I said as much). Then I asked everyone (and you specifically at least twice), if that those reasonings were the jist of the case on BE. I never claimed it was MY case, and the fact that I wasn't supporting the wagon should further establish that it wasn't my case, because I don't think I have ever put together a case and not followed up with a vote or an intention to vote. Way to mince words, though.

xvart.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Tasky and Parama, the argument you are having is pointless. >.<

[Antihero]

^OK, I see you're voting for Espy. I looked over his ISO, and I'm not seeing scum. Can you tell me what's scummy about him?

Parama, I would also like this from you.

[The Stove]

I see a wall of "Your logic sucks, I hate your playstyle, and why are these people alive" from Knight.

I agree completely. That was a horrible post. I hope the next one is better.

My apologies. When I said "you really did not say anything about BE" I meant "you didn't really say anything of substance". Better?

Lawl backtrack.

It seems if you are confident in your lynch target you would want to rally the troops to get a lynch

I called for more BE votes several times. Sorry, you fail.

But this doesn't really match what you've been saying.

No? Prove it.

why do you need to wait for Agar to comment about it

You quoted AGar. So I'll let AGar answer you. Hurp durp?

The fact that you backpeddaled on your outlined case of BE by telling me to ISO BE means that his scumminess was in his ISO; but you now say it was because of his lack of contribution?

You're trying awfully hard here xvart, I'll give you that. Maybe re-read this sentence a few times. Savor it. Take in the aroma.

I never claimed it was MY case

Sure you did.

I just gave you my reason for wanting a dead BE. Compare it to your regurgitation post.


Tasky, why is a Chronopie vote better than an Espeonage vote?

[smargaret]

manho's iso is empty. I know the post restriction is hard, but he didn't even take a postition on the BE lynch yesterday and today he's just sheeping a case on Espeonage. He hasn't done anything (22 posts all game?).

VOTE: manho

[Parama]

You're very terribly wrong, Tasky.

how would you know?

I very much think Espe is more likely to flip scum than Chrono. See the list I posted for ironic purposes recently.
@LLD: I'm not really having an argument. I said he was wrong, he asked why, and then you posted. If that classifies as an argument, then every post in this thread is an argument against itself
@Antihero: When I have time, sure. I have 3 writing assignments to work on that I need done by Monday night and I'm the master of procrastinating on schoolwork.

[xvart]

I can't believe you are even engaging me in this discussion, The Stove.

My apologies. When I said "you really did not say anything about BE" I meant "you didn't really say anything of substance". Better?

Lawl backtrack.

You are seriously trying to call that a backtrack? They are essentially the exact same thing but the second has a little more to it because I didn't realize you used semantics and such literal meanings in an attempt to defend yourself.

ORLY? I have gone through your ISO and quoted every mention or pseudo mention or reference to BE.

The lines in blue are where you directly said something about BE and your desire for him to be dead (or why he might be scummy in the few instances)

.

The lines in red are you talking about the case on BE, and note how it changes.

If I missed something please let me know.

TL;DR version:

Specific mentions about BE:

1. OMG BLOODERECTION NEEDS TO DIE NAO.
   
2. Are you incapable of reading English, good sir? Because if I do recall, you are a scholar and a gentleman. (speaking to BE)
   
3. Hey look, BE filled up the diesel tank and he's roaring in that big ol' yellow bus.
   
4. vote: Blooderection
   
5. BE has 6 votes.
   
6. came up with a scum list, which had... Blooderection
   
7. It's not like we never said we'd like to see BE dead, btw.

Saying someone needs to die does not really qualify as substantive posting. You never said anything of substance about why BE was scummy.

Talking about the case on BE

1. The case is outlined. Go read the thread.
   
2. Plz to be doing iso on Blooderection and posting results.
   
3. Obviously AGar and I knocked heads together (talking about their case on BE)
   
4. I'll also let AGar explain the BE case bit.
   
5. Again, I'll let AGar address this.
   
6. The case on BE, and on several of the players in this game, is that they aren't doing anything.

So... you said their was a case on BE (which apparently later turned out to just be that he wasn't contributing), then said to ISO to discover why BE was scummy, you knocked heads to determine that BE was scummy (how much head knocking does it take to think someone is scummy based on lack of contributions?), then you finally say he needed to die because he wasn't contributing. That, my friend, is a Lawl backtrack.

Spoiler:

The Stove Quotes about BE

OMG BLOODERECTION NEEDS TO DIE NAO.

Sorry that i'm voting for your scumbuddy.

Really?

Really?

Okay, I'll play. I'll take "The Stove / Greek Chick Links" for $200, Alex.

I unvoted, and I don't think we should not lynch LLD because of the VT claim. I don't think we should lynch LLD because a few of her wagoners are really scummy, including you.

There's no one who doesn't want to lynch LLD because of the VT claim. Now you're just pulling stuff out of thin air.

VOTE: Blooderection

So why exactly did you unvote then? because of people jumping on the wagon? Specifically me?

Are you incapable of reading English, good sir? Because if I do recall, you are a scholar and a gentleman.

Hey look, BE filled up the diesel tank and he's roaring in that big ol' yellow bus.

DEAR SCUMZ

If you want to gg right now it's cool with us.

vote: Blooderection

BE has 6 votes

. CK3 has 1. Tasky has 1. It should be 9 to lynch. 16 alive.

Moar BE votes while Papa Ziti and I discuss the events.

Again, what's the case on BE? I've read BE's ISO, read the pages before the lynch; I'm just not seeing what happened since the day start that suggests BE is scum that would not have been obvious yesterday and BE been the lynch yesterday.

xvart.

Lol@ trying to save your brohan.

The case is outlined. Go read the thread.

Dear kids wanting Blooderection case,

Plz to be doing iso on Blooderection and posting results

.


Love,

PZ

And since he supposedly is super scummy, how hard is it to say why?

Do an iso on them real quick and tell me what you think.

why did you not vote BE yesterday instead of Baby Spice? What changed overnight that made you insta vote BE without further evidence or justification?

Now, see, this is silly. And it's why you're scum good sir.

Obviously AGar and I knocked heads together

and

came up with a scum list

, which had

Baby Spice

Blooderection

At the top of it. (you're up there now too, congrats)

It's not like we never said we'd like to see BE dead, btw.

Explain to me my scum motivation for asking the questions I did.

I'll explain things when I want a wagon on you. Which will come, no worries.

I'll also let AGar explain the BE case bit.

Were you intentionally lying when you said the BE case had already been outlined? If not, why did you say it when it had not been outlined?

We haven't intentionally lied about anything, so no.

Again, I'll let AGar address this.

Was the case on BE so complicated that you couldn't possibly sum it up in a couple of sentences?

The case on BE, and on several of the players in this game, is that they aren't doing anything

. If I help lynch all the lurkers, and the VIs, and the people not paying attention, and the people not trying, then I'm either going to hit scum or I'm going to get rid of dead weight. Either way, when the game comes down to the wire, the town is in a far better position to win. BE, and espeonage, and LLD, and Tasky, and Toon Fighter, and manho and etc fit this bill. (you're being actively destructive, there's a difference)

So despite your little semantical argument, you have not really said anything about BE

AND

you have not said anything of substance about BE.

And the funny part (I've mentioned this once before), is this gem of a quote:

3. The fail is strong with this one. I'm afraid it's hard for me to "poo-poo" (lol) your responses when you aren't giving any.

Let's, once again, list the questions you've refused to answer:

So since you were alluding to someone being scummy by not answering questions, does that make your refusal to answer my questions a legitimate scum tell?

xvart.

[Tasky]

^good posting.

FoS: The Stove

[StrangerCoug]

xvart has been ejected for putting game-relevant information in a spoiler tag. I'll start a replacement search when I get home.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh shit.

That's a harsh and swift punishment SC.

No warning issued? =O

Oh well, it's your call. Your mod, your rules ^_^

Sorry Xvrt?