StrangerCoug's Worst Nightmare IIIS: The Dungeon (Game over)

[Knight of Cydonia]

Chesskid not
Giving
Decent
Reasons

Since we're listing, I guess mine is:
Parama
Chronopie
Espeonage
chesskid3

[smargaret]

Fate, two can play at this rolefishing game.

Did you use a night action last night?

[smargaret]

The answer to this determines whether or not you're on the top of my list, by the way.

[The Stove]

Chesskid not
Giving
Decent
Reasons

I know. I'm working on it.

Chesskid, your response to my last post to you.

Fate, two can play at this rolefishing game.

Did you use a night action last night?

OMG

@Mod:

Plz to be removing "Check Brain At Door" sign from thread kthx.

[smargaret]

Either this will confirm me as town, or it will confirm Fate as scum.

[The Stove]

We're not massclaiming today dammit.

[chesskid3]

La stufa: se mi dici che ha sostituito, metterò una successiva sentenza

[smargaret]

I'm not asking you to claim; I'm not even asking Fate to claim. I'm just asking if he used a night action last night.

[Tasky]

I have no problem being directed by town, as long as I get a list of at least 4/5 people

[The Stove]

La stufa: se mi dici che ha sostituito, metterò una successiva sentenza

Yeah I didn't understand this before either.

I

really

hope you're not asking me to tell you who he replaced. When it's on the first damn page.

I'm not even asking Fate to claim. I'm just asking if he used a night action last night.

durp

But I'll spell this out for you. Three scenarios:

1. Fate says "y golly gee no" which is basically a VT claim; or
2. Fate say "ya so?" which is a PR softclaim, at which point you drill him to find out what he did, causing further mayhem; or
3. Fate says "STFU" <- which is prolly what's gonna happen, and what should

I have no problem being directed by town, as long as I get a list of at least 4/5 people

Good man.

[Tasky]

Either this will confirm me as town, or it will confirm Fate as scum.

if this is true, then Fate should fulfill smargaret's request and tell whether or not he made a night-action.
in case smargaret won't then be able to confirm either him as town or Fate as scum, we simply lynch smargaret.

I think trading the information of whether or not he made a night action for:
either a confirmed scum (Fate)
or a confirmed townie (smargaret)
or a confirmed scum (smargaret, if he can't backup his claim)
is a gain in any case.

[chesskid3]

Ero.

M = W ha un gioco di merda tastic. Scremato il suo ISO e tutti i suoi voti sono stati per capovolto la città / la gente mi sembrano città.
Koc entrò con un gigantesco muro di merda, e la legge ha dato alla fine sono stati merda-tastic pure.
il omgus gettando nella mailing vig non aiuta la sua causa, sia

[smargaret]

Stove, I will not make any attempt to find out what Fate did. I may ask a single follow up question, but it will have zero role-related information.

Lynch me if I lie.

[smargaret]

Oh, and if Fate doesn't answer my question, I'm not claiming. I will fullclaim if he answers, though.

[The Stove]

Skimmed its ISO and all his votes were flipped to the city / town people seem to me.

Interesting. Let's look. Here are M=W's votes:

The Stove (unflipped)
Lady Lambdadelta (unflipped)
Baby Spice (town)
Tasky (unflipped)
Toon Fighter (town)
Espeonage (unflipped)

So of M=W's 6 votees, only two of them have flipped - so I'm not sure where you're getting this from.

Now, of the two who have flipped, here is Baby Spice's case and here is the Toon Fighter case. Where do you disagree with those?

the law has finally been shit-tastic as well.

I have no idea what this means. I'm going to repeat my request that you use lots of short, simple sentences to make translation easier.

omgus throwing the vig on the mailing will not help his cause, either

I take it, then, that you take Tasky's claim at face value?


@smarganinja: It's pretty obvious what you're claiming to be, but ok.

[Parama]

We don't have 2 town vigs.
The daykiller is a vig.
Thanks for claimin' SK

Twomz, sorry for being dumb. You're not SK, you're scum with Espe

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Antihero, do you remember when you were upset that you had been moved down to "Null" on Parama's scum list?

I was being too... harsh in my last post. What I was saying was that for a period of time, you had a very town read on Parama, and were happy and content to let him and his lists run through this game. Once Fate comes in, you begin to stray from Parama and his lists (which are being bashed by Fate) and over to a more Pro-Fate stance.

Reading your ISO, I shouldn't have said what I said before. You have always been a town read for me, I just forgot what made you a town read in the first place. Reading back on the BabySpice Lynch, Nero Cain death D1/D2 stuff, makes me feel a lot better about you than I did this morning. >.<

Still though, can you tell me if you are still in support of Parama's lists? Or are you now condemning them? That was my only point. And I should have made it in a way that was more appropriate to the relevance of that point.

-sigh- This game is making me rage.

[Parama]

-sigh- This game is making me rage.

[Twomz]

Now comes the awkward silence portion of the debate.

Apathy is the only mafia casualty then, and Tasky is a delayed SK and the town has a dayvig. Mafuyu was BLOWN UP... a SK related death (bombs). There's most likely a mafia janitor still alive that when killed will reveal Apathy's role.

If we assume 1/4 mafia with an SK, we'd have 2 mafia left alive along side the now known SK. We have had (probably) no cop/doc flip beyond the JoaT (probably due to not knowing apathy's role). I'm feeling that a massclaim might be in order. There are obviously some protective roles, so we'll have a few days where the dayvig can hit possible scum picks giving us two lynches to find the last two scum.

Tasky won't be able to win at this point. I think he might be our best bet for a lynch today. He has no incentive to follow the will of the town, and we'll have to kill him eventually anyway.

unvote, vote: Tasky

[Tasky]

Now comes the awkward silence portion of the debate.

Apathy is the only mafia casualty then, and Tasky is a delayed SK and the town has a dayvig. Mafuyu was BLOWN UP... a SK related death (bombs). There's most likely a mafia janitor still alive that when killed will reveal Apathy's role.

If we assume 1/4 mafia with an SK, we'd have 2 mafia left alive along side the now known SK. We have had (probably) no cop/doc flip beyond the JoaT (probably due to not knowing apathy's role). I'm feeling that a massclaim might be in order. There are obviously some protective roles, so we'll have a few days where the dayvig can hit possible scum picks giving us two lynches to find the last two scum.

Tasky won't be able to win at this point. I think he might be our best bet for a lynch today. He has no incentive to follow the will of the town, and we'll have to kill him eventually anyway.

unvote, vote: Tasky

look, I AM TOWN.

I will follow the will of the town as I want to win this game.
look, even if I way a SK, I would still be helping town, so there is no reason to lynch me today
I can understand that you cannot trust me and won't leave me until endgame, but it is TOTALLY STUPID to lynch me right now as you would lose one or maybe two kills decided by town on scum.
I don't know if the day-killer is a SK, it could be considering the kill-flavour. but I think trying to outguess the mod right now is nonsense.

also, look it this way:
sooner or later we will have to massclaim, right?
then, in that situation, I can NK the day-vig and then the next day he kills me.
that way we are sure there is no SK remaining and we don't need to waste a lynch (or actually two) later. whoever of us doesn't follow the plan, simply is a SK and will die killed by the other.
if there was a SK between me and the daykiller he couldn't win that way, BUT we would have the advantage of having two killers at least one of whose is PROTOWN and the other is in worst case NEUTRAL for one or two more days.
don't forget that even if there was a SK, he would have the same incentive to kill scum as town, so the best strategy is to keep both killers alive as long as possible and have us kill each other before lylo.

[Tasky]

the law has finally been shit-tastic as well.

I have no idea what this means. I'm going to repeat my request that you use lots of short, simple sentences to make translation easier.

he said that he (KoC) had shitty reads in the end.

[Parama]

There's most likely a mafia janitor still alive that when killed will reveal Apathy's role.

Twmz is a mafia janitor, and when we kill him, Apathy's role will be revealed.

[smargaret]

We have had three people flip scum - NC, NS, and Mafuyu. That leaves one mafia, assuming sk/4 mafia.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Just a point of Meta... in the last SWN that got halted, I was a SK, who's win con was to see half the town die, and live to that point.

Just sayin'. Maybe leaving Tasky alive isn't such a good idea?

[The Stove]

I think he might be our best bet for a lynch today. He has no incentive to follow the will of the town, and we'll have to kill him eventually anyway.

He's a terrible lynch for today. Tasky is now the town's tool, to wield as it sees fit. And you just posted the incentive - he gets to live a little longer.

Also, The Frothy Ones have plenty of incentive to off him too. You're assuming he's going to make it past the next couple nights, which I really rather doubt. I'd rather use him while he's here.