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[AurorusVox]

Why fullclaim before L-1?

Vote: RayFrost

(L-1) Lynch all claimed VTs.

[AurorusVox]

What's this business about checking your Role PM? Are you saying that you didn't check before posting/going into N1?

[RayFrost]

I did, but I didn't remember my role for sure. Also don't understand the whole "lynch VT!!!" regardless of your thoughts on alignment.

[RayFrost]

Or do you think I'm scum based off of the case of "Ray is passive"

[RayFrost]

I fullclaimed because it's pointless to merely wait out until L-1 when it's a few days before DL.

[AurorusVox]

Leaving claimed VTs alive helps scum because (a) VT is the easiest least risky fakeclaim and (b) claimed VTs increase the chance of scum hitting PRs with the NK

[Tasky]

LYNCH THIS OPPORUNISTIC SCUMBAG!!
AV: Why is RF suddenly scum? I didn't see you having him as a suspect. what changed?

[Tasky]

@RF: look here for my case on AV. Add his late opportunistic voting and you have your perfect scumbag.

[AurorusVox]

Tasky: my reasons are right there, in the post before yours.

[Tasky]

so you are lynching him because he claimed VT, even if you don't think he is scum?

[RayFrost]

Tasky asked the same question I did. Why did you avoid answering the first time?

[RayFrost]

Also, /in b4 quickhammer.

[RayFrost]

The above is meant to dissuade a quickhammer by pointing out the fact a hammer would be one. By saying this, I don't negate the effect.

[RayFrost]

I don't feel solid about AV-scum right now. I'll let you know if I'm still alive after the rest of the game posts.

[AurorusVox]

My reply to Tasky was pointing to a previous post. I've not avoided answering because my answer was already there when Tasky asked the question.

[Tasky]

so you are lynching him because he claimed VT, even if you don't think he is scum?

[AurorusVox]

Herpa derpa, that question was asked after my last post before this set (shocker: I left to do something else for a while). Keep your knickers on I'm answering it now.

[AurorusVox]

@T: I thought saying "Lynch all claimed VTs" when I posted made it clear that that was why I voted for RF? I'm not sure if he's scum, but leaving him alive helps scum.

[AurorusVox]

That said, a scumpoint for RF is that VT is an easy, risk-free scum fakeclaim (haven't I said this already?) (TBC)

[AurorusVox]

...and in my experience (albeit mostly on another site), scum are eager to claim it (i.e. before L-1)

[Fishythefish]

@RF: Passivity is a scumtell because it shows you are more interested in avoiding scrutiny than working out alignments.

UNVOTE: RF

[Fishythefish]

@AV: VT is a claim that almost never derails a lynch. It's almost certainly the

least

common scumtell (at least in proportion to how often it's a genuine townclaim).

[Fishythefish]

I'm not ready for an RF lynch until we see more reactions to the claim, hence the unvote.

[Fishythefish]

*scumtell in 1696 should read "scumclaim".

[AurorusVox]

I agree that it's less common when scum are at L-1, but my point is that RF wasn't. I think fakeVT is more commonly claimed prematurely than fakePRs. (TBC)