Mini 1095 - Fast Food Mafia - Game Over

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I don't know what a jamba juice is... what food do they have?

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awsome.

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vote:chronopie

for not being scum in last game we played together.

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yes, but the mod listed you as 3rd party IN ORANGE, my point stands. And adding to my case, your avitar looks far to trim to be a fast food joint.

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Chronopie votes for disgracing the name of Duke Nukem. Duke was not in DooM. And the DooM dude doesn't talk in the game... Duke 3d never even had a pic of him in the statis bar. Duke also has bright blond hair. My avvy is from DooM, not duke. But Duke is awsome...

"My name is Duke Nukem, and I'm gonna kill the rest of you alian bastards"

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That's true...

I'm sorta glad that game is over though, it was insane amount of posting going on...

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I think it is good play to claim right off the bat, miller is the standard scum claim. I honestly don't think a town player would claim miller unless they have a death wish. Yes thats wifom but I just find scum claiming miller so early un-likly.

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I think it is good play to claim right off the bat, miller is the standard scum claim. I honestly don't think a town player would claim miller unless they have a death wish. Yes thats wifom but I just find scum claiming miller so early un-likly.

I don't get this. First of all, it is a good play for who to claim right off the bat? Then, you're saying that the claim is "standard scum claim" and you don't think a town player would claim "unless they have a death wish". However, an early gambit from scum-statusquo is unlikely. Your last sentence doesn't match at all with the first. In the end, I don't know what you're trying to say.

Gotta post wuick,

Okay what I meant to say was that it was a good idea for him to claim quick because he was a miller, I don't like mass claims early on, but for a Miller, which is what scum claim alot, I think it is good play to claim early... Sorry I was unclear I'm in a rush atm I will post more later....

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SC is not scummy, keep in mind that Choro also posted before TSQ could post... I don't see it as coaching as much as stating the obvious.

@Antb, really ignore the claim? So the most content that has been generated to this point you are simply going to ignore? How is this productive? Play out both situations (one being that TSQ is scum, the other him being town), which one seems more likely? Unless you have real life issues I would love for you to respond to this and EC's questions as well.

@EC, no more text walls... at least this early.

From what I read, TSQ's play seems fairly town, I don't think he is a good d-1 lynch, and I don't think SC is scum today at least.

@TSQ, what is your fast food joint? Answer this.

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The second to last sentence really needs a comma after scum...

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@TSQ, what is your fast food joint, quit stalling.

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@snake, If I told you I would be in deep shit. But, aparently TSQ knows what I'm getting at.

Tell me what fucking joint you are. You already claimed you have nothing to lose. If I was scum I would already know if you were town or scum. Why do you not want to claim that? Can you not forge a Fast food joint? Does your joint look scummy? Are you not giving information to the town becasuse you are scummy? Answer up boy.

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vote:TSQ

Blatant evasiveness, not answering to basic questions about his role. Willingness to claim, but not to show his full role.

@SC, yes but the scum already know if he is town or scum, it can only help the town. If he's lying scum then he knows he’s scum, if he’s evasive deliberately not answer easy questions town, then the scum already know that. He should answer to this basic question, and I will not forget about it.

@TSQ, can I use that quote about me being the worst player on the site? And again if I were scum I would have no need to fish for your joint's name. I would already know if you were town or scum. At the moment I think you are more likely scum. And why are you holding back that information?

EC, if you want to know why I'm saying this you had better be ready for another claim. Put simply my role is tied very closely to my joint. And I mean very closely, the joints aren't assigned at random, they actually corrispond to a role. For my role the joint I have fits perfectly with the actual role itself. In TSQ case his joint (if I'm correct, which I am sure that I am. <slight ego) should seem scummy, but in reality not. I'm willing to bet that his joint is just scummy, which would correspond to scum. As we all know a tell on food-chain alone isn't enough to base a case on, but it seems like his deliberate and un-explained reasons for not telling us such a basic aspect of his role screams scum.

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unvote, vote: tsq

forgot to unvote, sorry.

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@sc, glad you see what I'm saying, there is no reason for him not to claim.

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@TSQ, you have yet to give a legitimate reason for not claiming. You have only said things like "Ohh, stop fishing". I want a full post telling me why it would help the scum and hurt the town if you claimed your fast food chain. Or are you just stalling because you know that your fast-food joint is really scummy. Keep in mind that (even if I some times act like) I'm not stupid. I know what your role is, and I will take that into consideration.

@Pnut, I claimed that I was a power role. I get it. I know what I'm doing. I would rather die tonight and prove that 1 player is scum, then never die and lose the game. Also, I still have hope of a doc save... But I really want to know what TSQ has to hide.

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@AntB, I'm KFC, That’s Kentucky (shamefully my home state) Fried Chicken. They are famous for their
"Double Down" which has slabs of greasy chicken instead of bread. Totally unhealthy. Actually considered to be one of the most unhealthy places to eat in the U.S.A. Do a quick wikipedia and you will see what I mean. It does match my role pretty well.
Why is SC scummy? Voting for the sake of voting is not a good thing. And the equivalent of the "Food Standards Agency" is the FDA, Food and Drug admin.
As for why I'm making a big push for flavor, I have a simple answer. If his joint name matches his role as close as mine does, we should be able to see if his role is constant. And I'm willing to make an avatar bet that his fast food chain is pretty damning.

@snake, why vote if you still haven't "taken everything in"?

@TSQ, are you willing to make a 2-week avatar and sig bet on your fast-food chain being scummy? If it's townish you win and you select my avvy and sig for two weeks. If I win then you can select my avvy and sig for two weeks. Up for it?

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btw, I took finals/exams today, so if my spelling/grammar is bad blame my teachers.

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okay, lynch me, I don't really care... I don't see how I could respond to anything you have said because all of it is true. I have claimed that I'm a KFC something, and the 2x down is some-what relevant... Not entirely, but still relevant. Take it as you want. But why would you lynch a claimed power role on d-1? That is the real question that has to be answered. Most likely this set-up has a doc and he can save my ass at night. But for the town to lynch a claimed TOWN power role is appalling.

@EC, I never said that, stop mis-repping what I said. I said I was a power role, nothing more.

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infact, I will be willing to claim right now if you guys want.

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@SC, pressure from AntB, overall frustration for the town not understand the importance of flavor.

@EC, why did TSQ claim miller in his second post? Was that bad? Double standard much? And you are incorrect in your speculation about my role being connected to other players roles is incorrect. Its just that my role is tied to MY flavor. Hopping doc save.

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@AntB, and I did just that, the 2x down is just their signiture dish, along with the extra crispy chicken bucket... If you knew anything about KFC (but aparently you don't live in the US so it's not your fault) you would know that the 2x down is the most un-healthy thing on the planet, and it is served at KFC... Thats all. Plus you did ask for it, and I gave it to you. Why are you backing off what you asked?

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@EC, You said in an above post that Claiming a power role d-1 is scummy, thus my question is, why did TSQ claim miller on d-1? He would be scummy for doing that by what you said. Was that scummy for him to do? And isn't what you say about me revealing a power role on d-1 true about what TSQ did in his second post? Isn't that a double standard?

@raj/inhim, why is it bad to ask for flavor of an already claimed player? Really, what is so bad about it? How is it negative to the town, and how does it help scum?

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The board is acting really funny at the molment for me... Its all white and weird.

@inhim, I find him not willing to give up flavor after he claimed miller scummy. How is that?

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@EC, yet it is still a power role. In the non-vanilla sence. And why are you defending TSQ? Do you happen to know his flavor?

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@TSQ, I implied just that, glad you caught it.

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@AntB, that is one possibility. But their could be many others. For example, TSQ could quite possibly be a miller. That would mean that EC would be more townish. However, I don't see TSQ being anything but scum. Refusing to give information to the town is not pro-town.

@TSQ, did I ever say those were the ONLY two situations?

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After I realized that flavor would be the best way of truly determining if he is lying. I also wanted a complete claim...

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Have I ever stated a reason before now for asking for his flavor? Until now the I've only been talking about his out-right refusal to give flavor... But admit, him not giving away his flavor with no explanation (other then, I'm not giving info to scum after I've already claimed) is scummy.

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I agree that I'm very focused on this.

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How would him giving up his flavor help the scum? Excluding any silly roles.

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It will help the town if it reveals that he is in fact scum, and would thus hurt the scum... And the exclusion of silly roles is simply to prevent some bullshit answer (like, ohh the scums have a role that if a players flavor is revealed they get a 1-shot day ending vig power!) , not that you gave one.

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@Rajrh, exactly. Finally some body begins to understand my point about this.
@SC,After the first flip the scum will have ideas on how to fake claim. And most of the time scum is not lynched on d-1.
@inhim, I'm will talk in circles until you understand my point. We know how his flavor could help the town. We don't know if it could help the scum at all.

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@lewar, you are correct that I have never said that my role has anything to do with knowing other peoples flavor. I also think your posts will generated new information for the town.

@AntB, Why did you ask me to claim my flavor? Was it to get information?

-No more posts will talk about TSQ out-right refusal to give information to the town-

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@EC, Again, I never said my role has anything to do with anybody's flavor. Simply, I noted that my role is tied closely to my flavor. I think something can be determined about TSQ if we (not plural) know his flavor. We could run a goggle/Wikipedia search and see what comes up. That's all that there is to the whole flavor deal. You are trying to make to many small connections that don't exist. Plus I've got 5 votes on me, I'm the VI, I'm a power role, and one helluva easy lynch target. It makes perfect sence for you wanting to completely misrepresent me, you being scum and all...

@AntB, It seems to me like you put more pressure on me then you say, however, it could just be my perception of your post.

TSQ needs to post.

SC needs to post content.

I need some body to get a case written up so i can answer to everything. I'm at l-2, and that shocks me. (not having a formal case, that is)

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@SC, they can watch 1 flip and they will know all they want to about faking role pms. The town almost always lynches town on d-1. Plus the scum kill, they get 2 (count them 2) flavors before they will really (unless town is lucky) need to claim. The scum will know 41% of flavors when day 2 starts (1 lynch + 1 kill + 3 scum roles). How will knowing a players flavor be really important if they all ready know 41% of the flavor by d-2? And factor in that most of the time (like in this game) one can't quote role pms. Thus most players just spit out their role (TSQ style) and forget about flavor... I want a general case on me. All of my scummy points listed. I think I've talked enough about the flavor claim at the moment.

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More coming...

@SC, in some games I have played you CAN quote a role pm... (I think it was hospital madness mafia, not sure)

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@SC, but you still fail to address the two people who would have died (d-1/n-1). And you have not answered to my argument. My flavor is a simple, KFC. That's it. A scum will come out and say: [quote="scum dude"]

Claim: Burger King, VT

. That's it. I think it is more of an issue with not claiming flavor then claim flavor. Additionally, all one has to do to get flavor claims is to Google "list of fast food chains" its not that difficult.

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@SC, that still doesn't show how it would help scum to fabricate a claim flavor.

in other news:

V/la: till Christmas day

. I might be able to post some, but we all know how these holiday things go...

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Also...

@SC, the flip is a relevant point about gaining information about flavors. They may be different then an out-right claim, but they still contribute to the scum getting flavor information.

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I'm back! Catching up.

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@batt's 283... I should have clarified the comment, what I meant was:
I think it is not protown to not give information when asked, basically not answering questions. I do like your point on SC...

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@AntB, do you know how wifom that last post is? Really you are gonna base my alignment on a wifom circumstance? You are correct about KFC being a big chain; I think they have "grease pits" in China now. Answer to the whole fence-sitting argument more/better.

I agree with mag's and Batt's reads on most people (with the exception of TSQ, duh). I would be willing to Vote AntB if posts don't start becoming more townish.

@TSQ, stop lurking. I hope some of you have noticed that he has dropped off the radar as of late (unless he posted v/la, in which case it is my bad)
@Choro, stop lurking.

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@AntB, before I forget... I did NOT post my flavor quickly, I would suggest that you go back and read the game a bit more. It took you some time to fish my flavor out.

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And saying that you applied no pressure what so ever is a slight stretch.

unvote, vote:AntB

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YEp you got it here first, I'm switching my vote from the miller to AntB. Your posts don't make any logical sense and you lied about my flavor claim. Also to note you vote for little reason on page18. Honestly, you should be able to come up with better reasons for a vote then just "shady". Also mega role-fish. I suggest all of you re-read our exchange about me claiming my flavor.

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that post got garbled slightly. second line "YEp" needs to be deleted.

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@AntB, you never really put pressure on me to post my flavor, however, I did not post it as freely as you have implied that I did. nuff said on that topic.

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sorry for nto posting yesterday, real life issues...

@AntB, your posts about me seem omgusy. and I don't like how you react under pressure... Its mostly gut and the fact that you continue to misrepresent my actions. I did not claim easily, or without thinking. Also are you willing to lynch a claimed power role on d-1? Really?

Also,

mod: would you ind prodding TSQ if he is not on v/la?

Or replacing the lurker.

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Sory that I couldn't post yesterday. I will have a post latter! I'm caught up in the holidays......

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Right back at you mate, you mis-rep'd saying I was putting pressure on you, when I wasn't. Scum have fakeclaims, I believe yours is one of them.

This is a logical fallacy called "Tu quoque" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque, and thus I will not comment on it. Also, I think you are the best wagon. I agree with most of the points brought up on you. And why do we need a competing wagon if yours' is pretty good for a d-1 lynch?

I have SC down as a null atm.


@yabb, I'm not sure if that was a scum slip. Why would it change, and why would you post that if there wasn't a reason for it to change.

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vote: purple Orange

Need I say more?

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l-2
btw

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I will claim the kill...

I poisoned Yab two nights ago

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pending sc vote. I'll do some reading (if I can) on sc. My gut says that he is the scummiest player. I have a town read on lew,bat,and raj.

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9.When you die you are dead, do not post in the thread or any quicktopics you have. You are allowed one Bah post.

"bah" go town.