Mini 1091 Mafia Mania -- Game Over

[moose200x]

/Confirm

I am going to tunnel beef nonstop in this game.

[moose200x]

also guys, I am going to try and change my play for this game. I am getting better and better at this game and I would like to try to improve my always reading scummy style. I will more than likely go back to my old ways lol. But yeah, just don' t think I am scummy cuz I am not acting as scummy as usuall LOL.

So yeah

[moose200x]

I agree the moose stuff isnt great. But I am prepared to give him a it of a chance, I think we should give him the wriggle room to hang himself if he is scum.For now.

Hiraki however,

Hiraki agrees someone looks scummy, moans at somebody elses play then votes for a third person (randomly presumably) with no reason provided. This and some strange stuff about town reads and activity he earns my vote.

vote hiraki

This honestly strikes me as a bit of a chainsaw vote. You acknowledge that moose isn't great and then you go immediately on the offense against someone who mentioned his name as scummy.

However, I agree with boberz that I would like to know why you're voting Maryayaarera over Moose right now. Moose wagon needs some help. I want pressure, damn it. Also, Hiraki can you clarify your above argument? What do you mean by "Did you honestly believe...knowing that they would most probably be scum?"

LOL why do you want to pressure me? Is it cuz I'm too pretty for you?

[moose200x]

Yes that's it exactly.

Yeah Yeah. I just wanna clarify with you- You honestly believe I am scum already? Or is this one of those random wagon things?

[moose200x]

I think that your /confirm post is the scummiest post so far in the game. Now you're asking questions to which I've already answered on Page 1. Note the top of my post with a vote for you. It has your answer. Stall more. Boberz' chainsaw of you looks even better now.

Damn boy, you're talking pretty fucking big so early in the game. And what the fuck are you talking about "Stall more"? It's page 2 bro.

[moose200x]

Yeah it amazes me that you can't remember a post from half a page ago, brah. Imagine what'll happen when we're up to 3 or 4.

Also you still haven't addressed the issue of why all of Hikari, Boberz, and I all agreed you made a scummy post in the first place. Might want to focus on that in your next post, "boy".

p-edit: Fair enough Boberz. I agree with your point about his vote, by the way. Waiting for his explanation on that one.

You seriously think I care what anyone of you three has to say? I MAKE SCUMMY POSTS all game, get used to it. Or just tunnel me until day 3 when I am finally lynched and everyone bitches at me for ruining the game. Been there done that.

[moose200x]

@mod vote count please

Hmmmm I wonder what I do now, seems like half of you are ready to lynch me I said I want to improve my game. Makes no sense to me.

[moose200x]

So, are you guys wanting me to claim now or what? It seems like bob- hiraki and substrike r ready for my end

[moose200x]

bob isnt even voting for you.

then why is bob giving me a hard time?

[moose200x]

I dont thik I am, I think I said that a couple of your posts were scummy, but I am attacking Hiraki mostly atm.

oh ok

[moose200x]

Moose, why would we want you to claim on page 2 with only three votes on you when we need seven to lynch?

Just being myself bro.


As for who I think is scum..... um.... nobody yet. Nothing seems fishy. Superstar or whatever that guys name is he tunnled me hard for no reason, that wasnt normal.

[moose200x]

Moose deserves a few more votes people, he clearly is too big for his boots about the ones he has already. I want my pressure to go somewhere so I am letting it run for a bit.

you flip flop alot

[moose200x]

I AM NOT CRUMBLING, I AM NOT GIVING UP THIS IS HOW I MOTHERFUCKING PLAY.

[moose200x]

Play better then

Shut up

[moose200x]

No, Why?

Btw I will continue to nag you untill you do something constructive.

Here this is constructive. I bolded your post for you.

[moose200x]

If I get you to help town it will have been constructive. I am doing you a favour here moose. Just try and find scum. PLease do it for yourself. Gain an IQ point or two and actually try and find scum. PLeas pleas please please.

Or you will get vigged in every game that has a vig from now until eternity. Do you want to be the fool who always gets lynched or vigged?

Go and find us scum.

How can I find scum when there is no content besides me defending myself or being attacked

[moose200x]

Dude stop with the whole "Look at me being pro-town" routine, it's getting sad now.

[moose200x]

Being pro-town is good. You are trying to look pro-town.

[moose200x]

moose200x wrote:Being pro-town is good. You are trying to look pro-town.

Imploring someone to scum hunt over and over is not being pro-town. He is trying to apper town.

[moose200x]

moose200x wrote:Being pro-town is good. You are trying to look pro-town.

Imploring someone to scum hunt over and over is not being pro-town. He is trying to apper town.

So then you believe he is scum?

I am not sure. I doubt he is scum cuz would scum come out and so blatantly try to quick lynch someone?

[moose200x]

AntB you got me, I am scum and you are so good! We shall erect a monument larger than the heavens themselves in your honor!

[moose200x]

I am scum

vote moose

you are so scrubby it isn't even funny boberz

[moose200x]

@Moose are you actually going to add something other than steaming piles of BS to this game?

Why are you giving me such attention when boberz is doing the same stuff?

[moose200x]

I have played with moose in past games. I can not allow scum claims.

So you'd rather mislynch me to punish me? That isn't good for town my friend.

[moose200x]

So substrike- Just to clarify right now. Do you think I am scum or do you think I am just anti-town?

[moose200x]

Boberz- I am not mad your tunneling me becuase i feel like a victim. I am mad because you are allowing scum to bandwagon and hide on an easy mislynch. Scum will just say "lol he acted scummy lol" and that's that. You are letting scum off easy by tunneling me.

[moose200x]

Boberz- I am not mad your tunneling me becuase i feel like a victim. I am mad because you are allowing scum to bandwagon and hide on an easy mislynch. Scum will just say "lol he acted scummy lol" and that's that. You are letting scum off easy by tunneling me.

Nobody can hide, and if you think I tunnelled you are so mistaken. Have you actually read the thread?

In other news... why are you still talking about yourself?

Narcissist complex. I will re-read the thread here in a bit, but so far Nothing! Has caught my eye realy. Like I said I don't really make anything of the hirka case cept for pressure and substrike seems scummy to me and boberz seems to be trying to look pro-town instead of being protown. Those might just be hidden OMGUS thoughts tho.

[moose200x]

As for Moose, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but that may just be my personality. Although, the fact (that others have pointed out before) that he has yet to give a solid attempt to make a case on someone else worries me. Viewing his games, you clearly see he is capable of scumhunting so the whole "boohoo everyone's aiming at me, how can I make a case?" post from him sticks out.

I am not good at explaining myself. So let me take this step by step why I get mad why I am tunneled d1 every game.

1. Every game I get close to being lynched day 1.
2. Early in games I do not try to find scum teams. I try more to pick up bad vibes, intentions, coaching, leading and such.
3. I can never pick up any tells from people when they are screaming "lynch moose" since town and scum alike always wanna hang me.
4. So I get frustrated when people say "hey scum hunt then" and I can't explain why I cannot scum hunt since doing so makes me seem scummy!


So, I hope that makes sense to you. I will say this as far as who I think is scum. When I was being attacked we had a new post every hour. Once my wagon kinda died and I stopped posting, everyone else stopped posting. I am not sure why that is, but I will remember to review that come d2-3 and I bet we can put some pieces together.

[moose200x]

It displeases me that Moos' wagon is dead. But, fine.

Cuz voting the guy who isn't here is totally going to spring forth another wagon amright? How can possibly disregard your suspicion of moose at the drop of a hat when you were so eager to see his lynch? You're not looking for scum, you're looking for easy targets.

Unvote;
Vote: Substrike22

I'm here.

[moose200x]

I agree with Dekes on the Beefster wagon. Also I'm not intending for moose to be around at LYLO. I've stated he is a liability and as such should be kept a close eye and removed as soon as is required OR as soon as a sufficient case other than OMGUSGTFO is made; which ever is sooner.

Psh, I pwn at LYLO.

[moose200x]

Oh and sub, don't fucking call me moos anymore.

[moose200x]

Don't be a douchebag bro.

[moose200x]

I dont like the substrike wagon.

Boberz: My last game with him he openly chainsawed his way to a town PWN of mafia team.




\\bstrike has called for me to do something town all game. You've seen it at least 15 times. Yet his only case on me is


And then there is Antb. Let's see just how many of posts either defend boberz or call attention to me, boberz target. Skipping the first two random posts, since those dont matter.


Iso #3: [/quote]
@boberz
One-man-bandwagon coming through!!
Seriously though, you seem WAAAY to keen to get this wagon going against Moose.

@Moose
Why give up so easily? Your not even at 50% lynch and you seem to be crumbling under pressure...[/quote]

Here we says boberz should not bandwagon me so hard and says I am crumbling.


That post is important compared to the rest of his ISO.


Iso #4 2 hours later he votes me due to my "Rage" and unwillingness to scumhunt. (later he will say this is his entire reason for voting me)

Iso #5 Thinks I could be a jester (wants to be lynched) and then he says I am "focused on self-preservation" ok, that doesn't make sense.

Ico#6 "@Moose are you actually going to add something other than steaming piles of BS to this game?"

Ico#7 Tells me that I stand out more than boberz and should defend myself (read iso5)

Iso #8 He defends boberz saying "He's made attempts to defend and justify himself and he asked questions. Which is a lot more than moose has done."

Iso #9 Fixes a posters voting error.

Iso #10 Reiterates 9 and adds my iso further reinforces my scumness.

Iso #11 "Having town-reads so early on set alarm bells ringing straight away, the fact he's only just elaborated on them and with them being so MINOR and even WRONG makes me think there's something else going on. He dissects my attack on moose while himself maintaining a vote for him. There is an air of scum but nothing to cause concern as of yet."

Iso #12 Explains to lat about hiraki's town reads and omgus on mrwright. Says in this post that #4 is his base reason for voting me. Asks for everyone to put me at L-1.

Iso #13 Informs us that he wants me at L-1 to get me to crack. (

Iso 14 and 15 are blanks IMO

Iso #16 He thinks I am just shit palyer due to everyone in town telling him that's how i've played in the past.

Iso #17 I read this as coaching to substrike. and considering he doesn't mention sub alot... hmmm

Iso# 18 nothing

Iso #19 "I agree with Dekes on the Beefster wagon. Also I'm not intending for moose to be around at LYLO. I've stated he is a liability and as such should be kept a close eye and removed as soon as is required OR as soon as a sufficient case other than OMGUSGTFO is made; which ever is sooner." Likes Beef's bandwagon- Wants me dead , town or not, before LYLO.

Iso #20 wants me to scum hunt.


Man, AntB has focused on me and tried to push attention away from boberz the entire game. Two ideas here. 1: Boberz and AntB are scum together. Or 2. AntB is scum and trying to get Boberz to follow suit on my mislynch. If this scenario is true I'd also like to re-reread his post along with beef, Mariyta and hiraki to see a sort of connection.

[moose200x]

Ignore my part about substrike, I don't have time to finish his argument lol.

[moose200x]

I don't know why it's so fucking hard for me to get through day 1 w/o everyone jumping all over me non-stop. At least let me claim b4 you lynch me. I don't know vote count.

[moose200x]

I fucking hate being a powerrole. When your blue it doesn't matter but when your a fucking PR and get lynch it destroys town. GG town. If you wanna lynch me,lynch me. Just know I will be a huge mother fucking help come LYLO. HUGE MOTHER FUCKING HELP. HUGE.

[moose200x]

Oh and you think I give a fuck about you call me scum for claiming, go f yourself if you think so. I am probably the most important role in this game. I'd bet money on that. Unless there is some kinda cop/vig hybrid.

[moose200x]

If scum does not have a RB and chooses not to NK me this will be game over, go town!

[moose200x]

Just let me do my thing for one night and if I am alive you lynch me fast. No argument from me.

[moose200x]

Hi broken!

[moose200x]

Moose is a selfish self centred self serving bugger, who I shall never play with again and imo should be replaced. Let's not lynch him today.

Just trying to make it through the day bro.

[moose200x]

Just trying to make it through the day bro.

Well dont, replace out. now.

You are going to die tonight.

[moose200x]

I won't confirm my vigness but I will confirm that my allegiance lies with the town.

[moose200x]

Lat, I am town bro. Sorry.

[moose200x]

You are going to die tonight.

Please explain.

I am going to kill him.

[moose200x]

@Moose
One last chance to do something pro-town. saying your vig and going after boberz needs a serious come-back now.

I think either boberz or substrike is scum. I decided in my head boberz is scum. I am going to kill him unless new info pops up.

[moose200x]

@Moose
One last chance to do something pro-town. saying your vig and going after boberz needs a serious come-back now.

I think either boberz or substrike is scum. I decided in my head boberz is scum. I am going to kill him unless new info pops up.

Could you provide a case?

I can try man. But I can promise you 96.5% that it will lead to my lynching. I don't scumhunt like you people do.

[moose200x]

I really don't have time right now. Let me just say this. Boberz is playing identical to when he was scum in a game we played before. Substrike is a prick. And is being extra pricky to me. Why would he be a prick to me? HMMM. 1, He thinks I am scum and is trying to get me lynched. or 2, He is scum and trying to get me lynched. His plan is simple. - piss me off, make me rage and townies go OMG OMG LYNCH . And if you can't tell I rage very easily. His repeated "moos" shows evidence of this.

And the moos thing does piss me. Fuck you substrike. I wish I had more than one bullet in this gun.

[moose200x]

mod why the fuck is this ok that they repeatedly call me moos over and over when I've asked them to stop? for gods sack man, i got modkilled for calling a person a "Cock sucker" one time and yet these two continually mock me

[moose200x]

Am I the only one who thinks boberz or substrike are scum?

[moose200x]

O/T

What role is a terriost? Cuz that sounds fun!

[moose200x]

Guys, what if we agree on who to lynch and instead NL. I will then shoot that target proving I am town vig. Maf could kill me but hey, after tonight i am basicly a VT so that keeps other PR's safe! And if they kill me then oh well, you can all cheer that the idiot is gone.

[moose200x]

no.

Love the fucking insight. Way to detail your thoughts.

[moose200x]

no.

Love the fucking insight. Way to detail your thoughts.

Thank you Thank you.

[moose200x]

Broken- but wouldn't me shooting one person mean I am a 1shot vig?

[moose200x]

So I think we should definitely keep moose around for one night.

[moose200x]

Totally for this! Now we playing some hardball.

[moose200x]

Am I the only one who feels boberz is anti-town?

[moose200x]

I am shooting boberz, town can fuck itself, I just wanna know boberz dies. And I will LOL if he flips scum. OH GOD I WILL LOL FOREVER! God I hate him so much.

I almost agree with werewolf. I thought It was substrike bob and hiraki not beefster.

Whatever. let's lynch substrike or bobster and I shoot the other and we all LOL to victory.

[moose200x]

News for everyone moose cannot be confirmed at anypoint tonight (or on almost any night.)

How so? What if I shoot scum? That'd at least semi clear me.

[moose200x]

we cant let you through to lylo anyway.

I don't see why you get to decide. I've been in lylo a few times and NEVER picked wrong as town.

[moose200x]

we cant let you through to lylo anyway.

I don't see why you get to decide. I've been in lylo a few times and NEVER picked wrong as town.

Not helpful. You could be wrong at any time.

I am just saying I can be a very good town asset to the town as the days move on.

[moose200x]

I am not nrmally a policy lyncher. I have never been on a policy lynch. But the werewolf wagon doesnt look like it is happening, so it is him or you. I prefer him, if only because I get on with you in a strange way.

You are so scum

[moose200x]

I prefer him, if

only

because I get on with you in a strange way

.

So you ONLY prefer lynch A over lynch B due to whatever the underlined part means?

[moose200x]

I disagree they are much better than random lynches, they get rid of an antitown player for a start. But lets take htis to MD sometime.

As I say beefster it appears to be you or moose. WHo? Or if it someone else you better start your lobbying now

Why do you get to be the final authority on who we lynch?

[moose200x]

AntB, Explian this to me. Why ever lynch someone claiming to be a PR on day 1? Wouldn't it make more sense to let the PR do his thing since if he is lying it'll easily be found out later?

(notice i put claim instead of is since you don't know for sure i am pr)

I

[moose200x]

We need a lynch today or tomorrow guys, please, I am worried we won't get one. With that said

vote werewolf

Bandwagon, no brakes

[moose200x]

So, rat, are you lynching me because I am scum or because I am anti-town? Seems like voting a townie just cuz you think he is anti-town is anti-town.

[moose200x]

I still think if he deliberately acts against wincon it should be modkill

You admit shooting a townie out of spite is against my wincon. That'd only be my wincon if I am town.

[moose200x]

lol moose you really should think before you post. you are really not helping yourself here.

I might be stoned but I do not see an error with what I posted. Pleas elaborate.

[moose200x]

That'd only be my wincon if I am town.

I am speechless. This is twice he has essentially claimed he is scum.

Please explain how that is scum claiming. I don't get it. I just don't. Please.

[moose200x]

A townie would put something more definitive and wouldn't have put an "if I'm town".
I didn't say it was a direct scum-claim either. I said essentially.

Right! If I am town it'd be against my wincon to shoot a clear or protown player. He said it'd be against my wincon since bob is pro-town. Therefore he thinks I am town.

[moose200x]

so it looks like we are getting close to lynch, who do i shoot tonight?

[moose200x]

I don't understand why Moose isn't dead since he's claimed scum twice.

Man, I had just figured out who to shoot and now this. Shit. Hmmmm Substrike or Boberz. Hmmm. I wish I had a shotty

[moose200x]

Do you think beef is acutally scum bob?

Ok, I am leaving for work. I won't have time to repost b4 day ends so please leave a few ideas of who to shoot. Or no shoot. Or whatever. I'd prefer bob or substrike.

[moose200x]

I'm a vanilla townie. Good Job. lynch boberz. GOOO TOWN!!!!!

Sorry man

[moose200x]

No your wrong mod, i shot werewolf.

[moose200x]

No your wrong mod, i shot werewolf.

I would like to draw your attention to Rules #2 & 26, and your Role PM.

lol thanks for not modkilling me. I make mistakes like these all the time. Appreciate it. Well. I just realized I am in some shit now.

[moose200x]

I also want to point out I killed werewolf so that we can look back on day and see what both main bandwagons role were.

If there is a maf RB- Boberz or substrike are town.

So, if someone got RB'ed please out yourself.

[moose200x]

sorry wolf

[moose200x]

also, don't quick lynch me substrike I can explain why I misunderstood shoot and kill. trust me, it makes sense

[moose200x]

Well long story short- I am an idiot. I cannot quote or even duplicate my role pm. so i will not do that.

when someone says stuff like you may <GIVE FLOWERS> to any girl you like. You may <GIVE FLOWERS> only once. it's easy to replace <GIVE FLOWERS> with <GIVE CHOCOLATE> in your head.

follow me bro?

[moose200x]

I am an idiot.

QFT...

Paraphrasing is good though, and good effort... however that says to me that your are a sort of jack-of-all-trades role... in that you have multiple abilities....

u got that from...

Well long story short- I am an idiot. I cannot quote or even duplicate my role pm. so i will not do that.

when someone says stuff like you may <GIVE FLOWERS> to any girl you like. You may <GIVE FLOWERS> only once. it's easy to replace <GIVE FLOWERS> with <GIVE CHOCOLATE> in your head.

follow me bro?

[moose200x]

dismembering people sounds like something a serial killer would do rather than what a vig would do. we should not have allowed moose to live in the first place, he killed someone he did not even mention killing and is too unreliable to have around.

vote: moose200x

yeah well ur a bitch.

[moose200x]

lol god imm sorry im tying to change. sory. i am drunk. sorry. just your wrong bro man. so stfu.

[moose200x]

No I killed werewolf. I figured that way we have both main bandwagons to inspect from day 1, the chocolate/flowers thing is just words man, just words.

[moose200x]

Mariyta and Moose scumteam?

Tell me this, do you believe I killed werewolf.

[moose200x]

Unless you've got an explaination on what you said after the night was over, and an explanation on how he ended up dead, Occam's Razor states you did. So, yes I think you killed werewolf, but I'm also willing to hear you out.

no, I did kill that guy. I just wanted to make sure you believed me.

[moose200x]

moose, why would anyone doubt that you had killed werewolf?

just making sure.

[moose200x]

I have a 102 temp. No INSURANCE So i will try my best to keep up. thank you.

[moose200x]

Ok. So I have some notes on the game and everyone, but there is one question I am unsure why it has not been answered yet.

Moose, you have claimed that you were a one-shot power role who has now just wasted their one shot. You have also claimed that you were town aligned.
Looking through the wiki at all the killing roles, I have not come across one that fits your description.

I want a claim out of him. With his "one shot" over with, as he said, he is pretty much a VT now, so there should be no harm at all with him claiming.

Also, how that goes down affects some of my views on people so I want this out of the way before I jump to conclusions.

I am jack of all trades. Happy?

[moose200x]

Well, that means we can't use this info for a case on moose. Though I'm wondering why making a distinction between the kills at all. If they were unique, I wouldn't mind, but "shooting" and "dismembering" is just too close to wiki/common kill flavor for scum and SK, respectively.

10a) Flavor is flavor. Parts is parts. Nothing in the flavor reflects Actual Game Mechanics. You are free to ignore the flavor (except, of course, that you'll hurt my feelings; I expect to spend a good deal of time creating flavor, and I think you should at least read it. However,

it has no bearing on the game

.At all.

[moose200x]

does no one read the posts in this thread?

[moose200x]

I am jack of all trades. Happy?

I am jack of all trades. Happy?

I am jack of all trades. Happy?

I am jack of all trades. Happy?

[moose200x]

@Moose
No I'm not happy. You bit at what I put trying to save your ass.

go fail somewhere else.

[moose200x]

*twitchy mouse*

STFU and either help town, replace out or make a half decent claim what isn't a straight rip of someone's post.

lolumad

[moose200x]

If there is a maf RB- Boberz or substrike are town.

So, if someone got RB'ed please out yourself.

I made it pretty clear I was going to kill bob or sub. If scum team had a RB and they were scum they'd RB me and push my lynch today. If the scum team has a RB and bob/sub are town they wouldn't RB me since I'd just be killing town.

@moose: What are your other trades? NO ONE BUT MOOSE ANSWER THIS, PLEASE.

I can Cop once, RB once and Kill once. (I read kill as shoot day1, whoops)

[moose200x]

I'm here.

[moose200x]

I am JOAT and interestingly enough I do not have a protect.

[moose200x]

Let me quote it for ya rat


Pre-edit: Thanks dekes.

Pre-edit 2: LoL.

[moose200x]

And btw, once again, moose? Are you by any chance voteless? Or have you made up a plan to go through a game without voting once?

I am not real big on throwing my vote around.

[moose200x]

I will

vote substrike

then.

[moose200x]

I am sorry. I have an innocent.

[moose200x]

We can still roll with that.
I'm going back to bed though. Fever of 102 right now, so I really can't think strait right now.

If it's what I had then your in for a fun 3-4 days followed about a week of not feeling 100% Heck, I still feel slightly off and it's been 2 weeks!

[moose200x]

Moose, who did you get an innocent on? If you already posted and I missed it, I apologize.

I guess I should prob out it. Hmmm,... everyone agree I out my inno?

[moose200x]

Mariyta is my innocent. Flipped a coin between her and AntB.

[moose200x]

Last night I figured either antb or mariyta were scum. And I got a town-aligned on Mariyta... so I am all for Antb's death.