Objection Redux - It's all over bar the shouting!

[SocioPath]

I'm gonna steal some of Socio's words here.
"ZOMG U CALL

MANGO

ELLI SCUMMY BUT YER VOTE ISNT ON HIM"

Vote: Sociopath

LIEK ZOMG I NO RITE?

VOTE: ELLI

Vezok is rearing his ugly head though too.

[Faraday]

Vote count 3.1
AlmasterGM (1)

DTMaster

Sociopath (2)

Vezokpiraka, GammaGoeey

UncertainKitten (1)

Jahudo

Ellibereth (1)

Sociopath

Not voting (4):

Ellibereth, AlmasterGM, SpyreX, UncertainKitten

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline's the 24th @12pm

[DTMaster]

1. Gamma: Actually I wanted Vezok to be specific. I find it

more odd that he originally said that his skill didn't work

and changed it to

he made a thread with FATE

but he's alone.

To me this actually reads as scummy just based on psychology. Since I brought up out of game meta about neighbors (different mods, etc), the story changed. Since the story changed: it reads as scum trying his best to answer the question or change it from the original statement.

Vezok claimed his neighbouring powers didn't work. He didn't claim that he targeted Fate nor that he made a thread until I made the out of game meta. He claimed without claiming any information in the original statement.

To me this change reads as a scum slip. Nice trap eh? :3

2. Jahudo: A neighbourizer should just be treated as null in any case. Even though he's been bread crumbing his role, and sheeping his town/neighbour pick, that doesn't excuse him from scummy play. And trust me, after a ton of Reck and Ythill games I'm tired of scum sheeps. When someone sheeps they put all the responsibility (eg whether they look scummy going in/coming out of the lynch or wagon). Rather then focus on those case leaders, I'd be more worried about the sheeps that didn't contribute to the case/game.

3. SK Case: I'm not saying Spy is an SK. I'm saying that if Spy was determined in game via normal scum hunting or role actions to BE AN SK, we should keep him around to be our chained puppy. Otherwise Spy is just spy and just reads normally (aka I have a feeling he's town). If people really, really, really, want to press on this issue they would do so because they think Spy is SK scum.

4. Jahudo again: I dislike how you and many other people are excusing Vezok for

changing his story in a role action claim

. To me this is fishy.

5. UK: Just the hammer post gives me bad vibes (I've been there and done that as lulzy scum). I know different meta argument, sue me. I'm cranking up the dial on my empathy powerz (powers in training :[)

[UncertainKitten]

@DT: Huh? You noticed that too? I mean, he didn't really change his story. But the appending of "Oh, I has thread" is...convenient.

Ok, I think I get what you mean about the SK

Not a whole lot I can do about why you suspect me :V.

[DTMaster]

Nope :V. But VP's whole story reads as a massive cop-out to appease the angry DTM.

I'm still waiting on AGM who only said "fuuuuuuck" after he promise to get back to my wall. Generally scum say: "fuuuuuccck" since they know I caught them :p lol.

[Gammagooey]

@DT-The story shenanigans IS a lot better than the different mod mechanics=scum.
APPROV'D.

And he still hasn't answered the question about his reads from way back on my birthday. (<---VEZOK YOU SHOULD DO THIS BTW)
But then I'd have to NOT be voting one of Socio/Elli.
Which isn't happening right now.

[vezokpiraka]

Well it was shorter to say that it didn't work than tell you guys that it actually worked but I got nothing because Fate died.

I think I will give my reads.

AGM: Lurky. Probably town.
DTM: Pretty townish if you ask me.
SP: Scummy scum. I've been scum with him before two times or more and this is exactly how he plays as scum.
GG: Townie.
UK: Pretty scummy.
Jahodo: Scummy.
Elli: Pretty townie I may say. But more to neutralish.
Spy: Townie. Who could he be scum.

[Gammagooey]

-Elli as pretty townie:



Dear Vezok: Why he townz? Like, at all.

[SpyreX]

You know its a bad game when you feel bad you 'wasted' your shot on scum.

Vezok and Ellie need to go. Ellie first. SP needs to step it up or go as well.

Unvote, Vote: Ellie

[UncertainKitten]

OK...I did a quick ISO and I'm not seeing what's so terrible about SP. Elli, I do note, hasn't seemed to deliver after his first list, which is convenient.

[UncertainKitten]

Also, vezok is pretty fucking terrible. That list is a joke. It's as if you roll random numbers between 1 and 3 and then tried to make them look pretty for everyone.

[UncertainKitten]

Vote vezok

(Pretty sure my vote hasn't been doing anything yet, and it should be)

[Jahudo]

And trust me, after a ton of Reck and Ythill games I'm tired of scum sheeps.

Me too, and they are normally town. I am tired of mislynching people I later figure out were bad lynches because they looked funny to me. This is a site-wide change I've made on VI-ish players. Want links?

4. Jahudo again: I dislike how you and many other people are excusing Vezok for changing his story in a role action claim . To me this is fishy.

Where did it change? He said it didn't work. He elaborated how it didn't work. I don't see the change.

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I am in favor of extending this wagon:

unvote;
Vote: Ellibereth

[Jahudo]

OK...I did a quick ISO and I'm not seeing what's so terrible about SP. Elli, I do note, hasn't seemed to deliver after his first list, which is convenient.

QFT

[SpyreX]

SP will require more words when I'm at home. Lets just say he's that guy who is about 5 degrees off from where he should be and its starting to peek that itch.

[Gammagooey]

ARBITRARY TIME LIMIT EXPIRED. ELLI DEATH TIME.

Unvote, Vote: Ellibereth

^^This is L-1^^

[Jahudo]

SP: Scummy scum. I've been scum with him before two times or more and this is exactly how he plays as scum.

I'll hear you out on this. What have you seen from his town game that is different?

[AlmasterGM]

Hey, just checking in to say I have finals until Tuesday. I can probably get one post in before that, and then activity will pick up dramatically afterwards. Sorry but that's just how it rolls.

[vezokpiraka]

Can I hammer?

[UncertainKitten]

Can you answer Jahudo's question or are you physically incapable of responding to anything asked of you without a wagon coming down on your head?

[Jahudo]

Can I hammer?

Hammer Ellibereth? The guy you called "pretty townie"?

[Faraday]

Vote count 3.2
AlmasterGM (1)

DTMaster

Sociopath (1)

Vezokpiraka

Ellibereth (4)

Sociopath, SpyreX, Jahudo, GammaGooey

Vezokpiraka (1)

UncertainKitten

Not voting (2):

Ellibereth, AlmasterGM

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline's the 24th @12pm[/i]

Elli has been prodded

[Ellibereth]

Hey guys sorry.
I had lost access to computer for a few days, just got it back, will be catching up tonight.

[Gammagooey]

A year passed.

[DTMaster]

FinAls times. V/la till Saturday.