DEFCON Mafia 2.0 - Over, American Victory!

[Internet Stranger]

Unvote: Jed
Vote: Dana

Youre useless, like Bobsnox. Your lack of American pride is disturbing. If you arent going to assist us in catching the communist scum, you are clearly a communist sympathizer.

[chesskid3]

Oh for god's sakes.

[chesskid3]

Nobody has commented on my suggestion, except scumgandalf. I want to hear thoughts.

[Toogeloo]

/prod dodge

Playing catchup now.

This was over 3 hours ago now... you got anything yet?

[Toogeloo]

I just had an amazing idea.
Come D1, if the failsafe is town, they can claim, and we can pseudo lynch, with the victim (if they have a silo) being required to nuke the failsafe, then cancel the launch, and someone else can be lynched.
Would that work?

What exactly would be the point of it? If we are lynching scum, and their choice is to die by lynch or die by nuking town, are they really going to recall it? If we are lynching town, why would you ask them to resign their fate in the game?

[chesskid3]

Because if say one of two people is scum, we can kill both in one day for sure, or if there are like 2 people we want to see dead in a day, this is more efficient than a whole bunch of people nuking them.

[Toogeloo]

And if the town player is disenfranchised/VI of the game, and decides to not recall his nuke? We lose 3 people in a day, all of which can be town, right?

[chesskid3]

Well that would be extreme faggotry.

[Toogeloo]

never underestimate a player who is disgusted imo.

[Toogeloo]

We also narrow down PRs with your request.

You ask a player to out himself as the Failsafe, you ask potential lynchees to out themselves as nukes, and you plan to target another player after the first player is forced to nuke himself who will also almost assuredly have to claim as well. You may as well take it a step further and state any player we plan to lynch may as well just nuke the fail safe at DEFCON 1 if they can and if they can't we determine how important their role is for town (terrible idea of course).

[chesskid3]

Meh, I guess.

[Internet Stranger]

Dana seems pretty disgusted.

[chesskid3]

Ok I got another idea.
Make people claim their submitted lists before they die.

[chesskid3]

won't be perfect info because of NKs, but might be able to catch scumsub or something, no?

[SocioPath]

Why would the failsafe be town? If any member of the town put failsafe anywhere on their list, they need to die now.

This is a terrible line of thought.

If there's no Failsafe claim then we know it's scum.

As is this.

Make people claim their submitted lists before they die.

This is a better line of thought.

[Internet Stranger]

Do you mean EVERYONE submit their lists? Wouldnt that become a communist ScumHaven?
Or do you mean make the person that is about to be lynched submit it? Cause I assume komrade scumbag isnt going to be very cooperative if they are about to be lynched.

[chesskid3]

nuked/lynched whatever.

[chesskid3]

But its ok, if they flip scum we throw their list out. But we know the role.
can PoE some stuff, catch a liar perhaps come MC time.

[Kitoari]

You went swinging after me when I jabbed at you the scumminess of a policy lynch, you jab at chess because he mentions not liking you in DEFCON 5. I'm sure anyone else who mentioned you at some point was called scum by you as well, though I would have to go back and check for sure.

So, I've seen this exchange far too often:

Person A makes poor case and vote on person B.
Person B points out why that case is poor, votes Person A.
Person A just yells "That's OMGUS," discrediting person B without really responding to the points against him.

This is a problem. It's not OMGUS if you make a scummy case on me and I vote you for that case. If you had made that case on another player, I would be voting you for the same reasons. But because your case was directed towards me, it's OMGUS and therefore invalid?

[Kitoari]

/prod dodge

Playing catchup now.

This was over 3 hours ago now... you got anything yet?

Also.

THREE WHOLE HOURS. DURING FINALS WEEK.

Yeah. Don't expect much content from me until friday but I'll get a post in when I can.

[Toogeloo]

So, I've seen this exchange far too often:

Person A makes poor case and vote on person B.
Person B points out why that case is poor, votes Person A.
Person A just yells "That's OMGUS," discrediting person B without really responding to the points against him.

This is a problem. It's not OMGUS if you make a scummy case on me and I vote you for that case. If you had made that case on another player, I would be voting you for the same reasons. But because your case was directed towards me, it's OMGUS and therefore invalid?

You have to realize, there hasn't been a case on Fate until recently. He gets butthurt that someone mentions something he does as being scummy, and he turns around and proxy votes the player before they build a case. It's not that a case is poor, but if someone says, "hey, that was scummy," and then Fate goes, "oh yeah?! well, VOTE: You!," that is what is thinly veiled OMGUS.

[RedCoyote]

Test.

Please note, I may have to break this post up into two. I'm having issues with the website. It keeps saying, "Page not available".

[AlmasterGM]

[Day 1, DEFCON 3 - Game Event]

[NORAD SYSTEM] Unidentified transmissions detected.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Capturing...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Audio files captured.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Descrambling...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Descramble complete.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Cleaning up files...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Cleanup complete.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Playing...

from the first post by mod here skipping duplicate words

Whatever.

Appear clean dare fyi furry -naturally.

[NORAD SYSTEM] Playback complete.

[Jed Cooper]

Sorry guys it is the last day of the pay period, I worked hard and I fell asleep.

I will devote myself to the following 3 goals:

1) Produce a catchup analysis of all relevant posts
2) Produce my top scum reads and ultimate vote
3) Clear up the various misreps on my "wagon"

On a quick skim, I am pleased by the rich and active content of town on this day.

[Bunnylover]

Right now I agree with Toogeloo.
What Fate wants to do with Dana is a policy lynch, and if I can see that I'm more then sure everyone here including Fate can see it too. Toogeloo latest post (number 750) is the best post I've seen this game, and makes a whole like more sense then everything else.

Vote Fate

Also I'll tell you guys already, I am not a big Day 1 poster. I have those games where I am active Day 1, but mainly I am active lurking during Day 1. I'll post my opinions when people ask me to, but if no one ask I probably won't be posting unless I have a full grab on the situation at hand. Don't be scared to call me out on my lurking, I usually stop lurking when I am called out.