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danakillsu Mafia Scum
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Are you guys serious? Look at what just happened! We put some pressure on Fate for his ridiculous "scumhunting" and what does he do? HE SWITCHES HIS VOTE! And people follow him again for some reason. This is exactly what a pressure wagon hopes to accomplish, and most of you are missing it. Fate is confirmed scum in my book.-
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RedCoyote Jack of All Trades
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This sounds fakish. I don't blame you for not wanting to comb over all the details in my posts, but you could've put more substance into this, the only question I asked of you. Fine, so you misread Faraday. What about other players?Bunny 803 wrote:I placed a vote on Faraday since I thought he voted for Jed then went to Dana for no reason. This to me was bandwagoning. In fact, Faraday didn't vote Jed but voted Kitsuki (or w/e sorry im impatience right not) then Dana. That isn't as bad as what I thought previously, although a little suspicious.
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No, that's fine. I still don't really get your percentage thing, but I'll accept it because it's better than nothing.chess 806 wrote:if I missed antyhig adressed at me lemme know
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I think this argument is too miniscule to really push on, but let me just say that while I think both of them clearly have a lot of rehashing, JC has more helpful (helpful in the sense of being able to get a clear read of his player slot) posts than IS does.Spyrex 815 wrote:If I have to go through and do a post-by-post on those posts I will. But, I really shouldn't. Because, just go ahead and scan that ISO and get back to me with this after really looking.
Because cut out the white noise and ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE NUKES and you'll have (and this is a guess) less posts than IS.
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Vas 818 wrote:For now,vote: Bunnylover
I think I like this vote, but I don't like that you didn't expand on it. If you are starting a new wagon, you should be ready to sell it. We've already got three big vote getters, we don't need a random vote tacked on somewhere else unless it's fought for.
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What the hell does this have to do with anything? Are you threatening Fate not to vote you? I do not like this post at all, and I'm glad gandalf and AV agree with me.bobsnox 833 wrote:So I'm scummy for calling IS out for an OMGUS FoS? Interesting...
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I'm voting for IS - a dude you think is scummy. Keep that in mind.
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Why park your vote? Why not explain it and sell the wagon? Eh, I don't really like this post either.Kit 836 wrote:This is a good place to park my vote:
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I do it on both sides.SP 837 wrote:RC loves giving massive chunks of words as scum.
That is all I'll say on that for now.
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Just as a sidenote, this is unrelated to the game itself, but why do you think that? I put the post numbers, I listed the posts chronologically, and I separated between addressing different players. How could I have organized it better? And what does "Nice try" mean?chess 840 wrote:Also the if I missed something let me know was because RCs wall was organized like shit, and I skimmed it for what was adressed at me.
Nice try
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Well, I don't really get the point of this post. Why are you slighting Fate for things he hasn't done yet? It seems like every post I've been reading is getting me angry. This isn't scumhunting.Toogeloo 849 wrote:According to Fate, we have 8 Scum in this game:
dana
Toog
IS
Jed
bunny
bob
av
Kat
That's almost half the game... Even if 7 of the 8 flip town, if that 8th flips scum, I guarantee Fate will be like, "I told you so, my reads are awesome!"
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Come off it. I don't see you rushing to his defense. Why don't you actually stick your neck out for once instead of relying on your quirky comments and lame, predictable votes?Faraday 859 wrote:vote for jed is scummy enough by itself, really.
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Maybe. The fact of the matter is, he had a clear, valid position, and he let a vocal minority talk him out of it. We all agree on this. If I can't sell you on the idea that he changed his mind out of convenience, can I at least get you on board with abstract that it was easier for him to backpedal and try to appease his attackers than to stand up to their onslaught and continue to fight for what he thought was the better strategy?Percy 866 wrote:Again I agree with not-SpyreX. I'm crediting his latter argument to frustration than his former argument to disingenuous scumlogic.
It looks as though we have a serious difference in regards to how we're reading JC's motiviations. I do not see his over-the-top posting as an innocent, non-issue. I do not think controlling the nukes has much bearing on the alignment (perhaps it does, but I'm not going to pretend like I could try and sift through the WIFOM inherent in the issue). I do think, however, that taking one radical positon and then gradually sliding to the other side of the scale in the way JC did is peculiar. Peculiar enough to justify a vote? Most definitely.Percy 866 wrote:And RedCoyote said he liked this post! Why?!
We agree on the dana thing though. I was more focused on the fact that AV and I see JC in similar ways.
You're reading too much into this, but, more than that, it's really taken out of context. This comment had to do with the Fail Safe power and why it would be more likely to hit town. I didn't mean for it to be read as though town players would be more careless about nuking. It was purely a statistical argument.Percy 866 wrote:This is not only not true, but you're making it sound like you should get town points for nuking carelessly.
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What happened to you? Why are you taking up these dead end, crappy arguments? I mean, honestly, do you stand by this post?Toogeloo 916 wrote:Probably not since you seem to want to fault me for wanting prods and people to provide content. You seem to love to lurk, so I guess I could just assume you defend that playstyle in others since it would be hypocritical of you to claim otherwise.
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Useless.Bunny 918 wrote:I am here.
I have nothing of value to give as of this moment.
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This is a valid point. This was something that really struck me about Toogeloo, so, if I was to vote him, this would be the reason, above all else (including the last two pages).Fate 927 wrote:You started out with a herpaderpa BabySPice vote, who is still MIA, a tentative agreement with the Jed wagon who "apparently" didn't need any more votes, and then divulged into FateFateFateFateFate-> Which I would call TUNNELING,
I'm not going to vote him just yet though, because I can think of at least four people I'd rather see bite the bullet. Additionally, I'd really, really like to have JC make another post (and, if possible, Baby as well).-
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Kitoari Goon
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PANDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA has been aggravating Fate since Defcon 5, and I think he was trying to engineer that on purpose. Personally I think Fate just snapped and PANDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA is gonna try to make himself look like "oh poor me I call out fate and he tunnels me. i are sad panda" even though that's at the best a half-truth.danakillsu wrote:Are you guys serious? Look at what just happened! We put some pressure on Fate for his ridiculous "scumhunting" and what does he do? HE SWITCHES HIS VOTE! And people follow him again for some reason. This is exactly what a pressure wagon hopes to accomplish, and most of you are missing it. Fate is confirmed scum in my book.
He is either stupidscum or stupidtown. I'm trying to decide which.Katsuki wrote:
And what does this say about Jack?Kitoari wrote:
bob: FOS JackJack wrote:That's nice, I fos you and you turn around and cast suspicion on me for it in response.
Jack: FOS bob because he fos'd me
bob: that's kinda OMGUS you know
jack: OMG BOB IS OMGUSING ME
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SocioPath Mafia Scum
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You saying that means that you obviously haven't been paying attention.RedCoyote wrote:
I do it on both sides.SP 837 wrote:RC loves giving massive chunks of words as scum.
That is all I'll say on that for now.
The point wasn't that you don't do it as town.
The point was 'OMG RC EFFORTS TOO MUCH TO BE SCUM', when I know that you effort a crap ton while as scum.Aut Tace Aut Meliora Loquere Silentio.-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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I'm butting heads with Fate since he was my scumspect.SocioPath wrote:Yep, Toog is scum.
This latest tirade is laughably bad.
He isn't even attacking people he thinks to be scum.
Unvote
Vote: Toog
Baby Spice isn't posting, but I also think he's scum.
Who gets us more information as a whole for me to attack?*
baaaaaa....gandalf5166 wrote:unvote
VOTE: Toog
I'm not dying today, not unless everyone collectively stops using their heads.SpyreX wrote:God damnit.
I want Toog dead. I didn't want him dead today.
What the fuck are you doing? Where's this WALL!!! of a case against me? You aren't some pariah for town, and if your case against me is that your meta doesn't stack up, then lol@you.Fate wrote:SpyreX what the fuck are you doing.
I can only say the same thing about Fate over and over before it starts to wear. We are two bulls butting heads in the midst of a sleepy town. It's a jab at him in a snarky way, and not intended to be true scum hunting. I even mentioned that I hated the shotgun approach because if there was any scum on that list, they would hardly be quaking in their boots.RedCoyote wrote:
Well, I don't really get the point of this post. Why are you slighting Fate for things he hasn't done yet? It seems like every post I've been reading is getting me angry. This isn't scumhunting.Toogeloo 849 wrote:According to Fate, we have 8 Scum in this game:
dana
Toog
IS
Jed
bunny
bob
av
Kat
That's almost half the game... Even if 7 of the 8 flip town, if that 8th flips scum, I guarantee Fate will be like, "I told you so, my reads are awesome!"
More snarky behavior from me, since Socio felt the need to ask. Is snarkiness not allowed? Fate refuses to accept that I am allowed to do it.RedCoyote wrote:
What happened to you? Why are you taking up these dead end, crappy arguments? I mean, honestly, do you stand by this post?Toogeloo 916 wrote:Probably not since you seem to want to fault me for wanting prods and people to provide content. You seem to love to lurk, so I guess I could just assume you defend that playstyle in others since it would be hypocritical of you to claim otherwise.
Look at how the day has gone since DEFCON 3 started. It's hardly active at all. Fate and I are probably the most entertaining thing going on right now, and the longer it goes on the more I detest a lot of the people in the game for standing by and chip shotting on the sidelines. Everyone else is just tossing FoS's here and there, bouncing votes around with little care, or just waiting to go back to sleep. To be honest, it's actually making me desire to leave Fate alive since it's becoming plausible that the two most vocal personalities in the game are both town, despite what my initial gut wants me to think.
*I slept on it, and I am going to get off Fate. I told you I was feeling suicidal. The rock and hard place I am in is obvious that I can sit here and continue butting heads with a player that most the player base knows better than me, but the longer I do so, the more it becomes obvious that people are just observing us solely. The possibility remains that we are both idiots, or maybe he is scum and just I am the idiot for backing down, but I do know that I am feeling as if something is wrong with the scenario in general. I can sit here and poke at his buttons more, see if I can get him to rageslip, or I can just leave it for later. I think I choose the latter...
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Die...Baby Spice wrote:Back and with 20 pages to read
Vote: Baby Spice
Ex-hypnotist players... tell me that Baby Spice doesn't remind you of Elli.-
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[Day 1, DEFCON 3 - Vote Count III - Eclectic]
"A visitor from Mars could easily pick out the civilized nations. They have the best implements of war." --Herbert V. Prochnow
[Votes]
AurorusVox(1) - Percy
Baby Spice(1) - Toogeloo
bobsnox(2) - Internet Stranger, Katuski
bunnylover(1) - VasudeVa
chesskid3(0)
danakillsu(3) - Faraday, SpyreX, Kitoari
Faraday(0)
Fate(2) - bunnylover, danakillsu
gandalf5166(1) - chesskid3
Internet Stranger(1) - bobsnox
Jack(1) - AurorusVox
Jed Cooper(1) - RedCoyote
Katsuki(1) - Faraday
Kitoari(0)
Percy(0)
RedCoyote(0)
SocioPath(0)
SpyreX(0)
Toogeloo(4) - Fate, Jack, SocioPath, gandalf5166
VasudeVa(0)
Not voting(2) - Baby Spice, Jed Cooper
[Activity]
The deadline is Wednesday, 29 December at 11:59pm EST. Eleven votes are required to lynch.
Jed Cooperis being replaced.
No other prods are currently needed.-
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Baby Spice Mafia Scum
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Vote Toog
You really do suck.
I don't think I've posted while I was off sick, except to say I was off sick, and you call that scummy? You sound more like someone trying to distract away from the votes that are being placed on you, and that is stupidly scummy.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
Sometimes, when I say "I'm okay", I want someone to give me a hug and say, "Let's watch Doctor Who"-
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heheheaHHAHAHGAHAHHAHA
"I was feeling suicidal, and now I want to live. /lurker vote"
HEHEHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Oh wait, Im an ex-hypnotist player.
Ellie didn't produce content for 5 FUCKING IN GAME DAYS. MONTHS OF REAL LIFE TIME.
This is D1 and been going on for how long? Voting a V/LA slot is as anti-town as it gets.
I don't like that Jed replaced out without saying goodbye to his friends/Mod was Jed force replaced?
(He has not picked up his prod, so yes, he is being force-replaced. --AGM)Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
"Fate you keep alternating between narratives of doing it for fun and doing it for the sake of winning"-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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bobsnox Mafia Scum
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lollll You are scum.Internet Stranger wrote:Im still guessing that toog is the furry one from the secret message too. Is this going to be like the Dana wagon again though?
Im leaving my vote on Bobsnox for now, he hasnt contributed anything except worthless attempts to sully my good American name and pride with communist remarks.
dude u scum? How do you ask that obviously rhetorical question and then vote me? It says Jack is scum or playing poorly. Or trolling.Katsuki wrote:And what does this say about Jack?
duuuuude since when is play style not a valid reason? Why are you supposing his play style is genuine? Scum defending scum? I've seen this exact line of reasoning very recently... from scum.Katsuki wrote:
So essentially you have no reason for voting IS aside from his post style.bobsnox wrote:
I think it's fake. Your question is strange - are we to assume it's genuine?Katsuki wrote:Lets put it in a clearer way. Do you believe IS is scum due to the American pride that boils in his blood?
Unvote, Vote: Bob
I think his play style is a farce - I think he's bluffing. Of course I'm voting for him for that reason. On top of that, all he can offer back is an OMGUS. (Which Jack apparently applauds )
@AurorusVox - exactly...Katsuki wrote:
That alone is not enough for me to say Jack is scum.AurorusVox wrote:Katsuki; you think Bob came off worse than Jack in that little exchange?
Bob keeps semi-side stepping my question.
@Katsuki - Your question is dumb, QED.
Scumlist:
IS
Katsuki
Jack
I was leaning toward Jed being scum, but I'll have to see what his replacement does. My clearest suspects are listed above.[/contribution]-
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Actually it isn't. You can no longer further your BS case on me, and you're hoping that you can get a counter-wagon going on someone else.Toogeloo wrote:
Actually it's quite the opposite. I know it's even more suicidal to move off of you, but I did it regardless.Fate wrote:heheheaHHAHAHGAHAHHAHA
"I was feeling suicidal, and now I want to live. /lurker vote"
I ALREADY SAID ITS YOUR OR ME AND IF IM YOUR HERPA DERPA SCUM READ THEN LETS SEE IT.
I don't fuckin like repeating myself but I SAID the case on you isn't a wall o' case type thing, its fucking DEFCON DAY ONE. I have no flips yet, no wagon analysis, no role reveals, NADA.
You continue asking for one as if, "let's see what sort of case you can come up with so I can refute it POINT BY POINTZ" to try and defend yourself that way.
How about, idk, you BE TOWN AS TOWN DOES in order to get suspicion off you?
Town mindset: "Well the case on me is BS/nonexistant, but w/e... *SCUMHUNTZ*"
Scum mindset: "Where's this case on me? Let me see. Oh look at that vote on me, SHEEP! People are lurking while me and Fate yell!"
DIE DIE
DIE.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
"Fate you keep alternating between narratives of doing it for fun and doing it for the sake of winning"-
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Oh hi you damn simpleton, how about having scum reads that DONT have to deal with some Bermuda Triangle Defense theory regarding Jack's random play (which is town) and people defending against a perceived ad hom attackScumlist:
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Katsuki
JackFate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
"Fate you keep alternating between narratives of doing it for fun and doing it for the sake of winning"-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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Then what happened to this? My challenge to you...Fate wrote:Case on you? I could go through your ISO and make a fucking wall
anywho...
if you want it me versus you, then everyone must participate.
I will accept no other lynch other than yours or mine.
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Vote: Fate
Anyone not of Fate or me change your votes now please.-
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DAMN STRAIGHT ITS ON.
I ALREADY SAID ITW AS ON LAST NIGHT THEN I WAKE UP THIS MORNING TO SEE YOU GO "nah I dont want a fight to the death. Can we kill babies now?"
AND I SAID "NUH UH. FIGHT ME LIKE A FUCKING MAN 1V1"
AND YOU SAID "oh shit I guess I got to. 1v1 it is!!"Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
"Fate you keep alternating between narratives of doing it for fun and doing it for the sake of winning"-
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@Fate: I really dislike this crap. From what I can tell, your reason for voting Toogeloo is because he is not acting like his meta town. Would scum not make sure to reciprocate their town play so everyone believes they are town? From what point does Toogeloo scum have to act as he has in Day 1? Does Toogeloo scum meta compare to his play this day?
@RedCoyoto: Right now I am hating Gandalf and Chesskid. How many wagons, vote switches, or useless (more on Gandalf then Chesskid on this point) post have they made during this day? Gandalf been on Jed, Dana, and Toog wagons without a word of reason why. Chesskid has been on at least Fate and Toog wagon, probably Jed too not too sure about that.
Part of me wants this Toog v.s. Fate debate to be over with, both shut the hell up, and actually try to find real scum. The two most vocal people are at each other throat. Fate attacks Toog for having his vote on him, they fight, Toog switches his vote which to me is what Fate wanted, then Fate attacks him for switching to his next scum target. To me is all completely idiotness.
To be honest, I only see this situation from both of them.
They are both Town.
They are both Scum on the same team.
This whole ordeal just seems to me set-up, which is why I am considering them both scum on the same team. Whoever gets lynch, the other one scores huge town credit (like they don't already have enough just from past experiences) and probably wouldn't be attacked till they make a slip or someone investigates them and finds them guilty and what not.-
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Bad vote is bad.
Unvote, Vote: ToogFluffy fluffy~~~ |"READING KATSUKI IS LIKE SOME SORT OF POSTMODERN ARTFORM"- GreyICE
Katsuki is by far more absurdly beautiful than Fate. (hai parama)
Katsuki's Madness coming to you shortly: Nov, 2011!
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D: No one alive would notice the difference if I died .
@Gandalf: I think its two scum team the town are facing.
@Fate: Am I scum because I dare to think the impossible is possible and voice it out? I mean what is so strange about two same alignment scum players auguring with each other? Logically they would want to distance themselves from each other. I think you two have done the most distancing from each other.
;D Im the common enemy that has brought two of the vocal forces together. Do I get a cookie as a prize for this ;D?-
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