Andrew
I'll be honest, I don't know if it's your posting style or what, but you irk me at times. That said here's the beef:
Andrew was not down with the werewolf lynch, but gave the solid reasoning that:
andrew wrote:i dont think werewolf555 scum would be so stupid to not realise that?
this wagon stinks of oppurtunistism
^That is solid. You stay off the wagon but you do provide logic as to why it doesn't really make sense. Now it
could
be that he is trying to stay off the lynch, knowing those who are on board will be incriminated with the blood of a townie on their hands, BUT: He rides Shotty most of the game. Now, subjective, but I know my alignment. Why would scum pass up on an easy town lynch for a harder to lynch townie? Kinda counterproductive. Now the argument can be said that only I KNOW I am town, then consider the following: If I AM scum...andrew was gunning after me most of the early game. As I said before, scum would play conservatively. Unless he is scum trying to bus his own buddy (being me in this scenario) then regardless, he is quite town.
He uses some kinda paranoid logic for awhile, but tosses the FOS concept in, which I honestly think was a solid Idea. He's also been quite active today, where as I would think scum would more likely lurk. He came up with the 17% chance of winning for town with random lynches, which is actually pretty spot on, I don't see scum trying to figure up town's win percentage. And of course he tossed in the fact that scum were just saying draw but PMing no draw. Obvious point, but one I dont see scum bringing up on their own.
Basically, Andrew Irks me...but I highly doubt he is scum.
Snake
Against the CHK lynch and asked about a no lynch possiblity. Thats a red flag to me, There were some valid points on CHK, even though he was town, and NOTHING stood out to him to even question. The No Lynch idea was horrible, and anyone with decent experience likely could have done the math on their own. He was off both Lynches that were town. The first one Truly was a horrid lynch, but the second I still think had weight, even after the funky defense chk gave.
When pressured by Bvoigt for not voting, he quickly FOS'd, voted, then unvoted him. He misinterpreted the Draw vote and what it does, when, once again, someone with even a decent amount of experience would have gotten what it would mean. Scum, of course, wouldn't want a draw so his apprehension towards it would make sense if he was scum.
He holds back with the Draw until he hears from equinox if it will work. Whats the deal? Even if he says "No" it's not like it would have hurt town, it just means that it wouldn''t work. Would appear like cautious scum wanting to see how the situation is panning out.
snake wrote:OK so what it now looks like is that we have the scum agreeing to a draw in thread and are probably sitting back and wating for the day to end with a no vote. Suggestions?
Once again, truth.
I've seen several things that are scummy here, but a few that rings possibly town.
silverbullet
said the cop claim was a stretch: but backed up his story with a point from a past game (which he provided).
He provides very little after that, but votes CHK and says
silver wrote:VOTE: chkflip
His giving up and frustration just seems like an annoyed giving up at having a role with higher responsibility (scum) and blowing it. I'm a bit more confident with this wagon vs the stupid ass wagon that day 1 ended with. If he ends up flipping town... scum has got to be on this wagon...
He automatically lumped himself in with the scummy suspects if chk was town. Now, if silver was scum, I doubt he'd vote, and essentially lump himself in with the next days suspects like that.
He says, after the lynch, that one of the lynchers should be voted the next day. This is narrowminded, but normally true: just not the BEST course of action in this case. What bothers me is he says he'd be happy if one of them are voted, and lumps himself in with it. Although its admirable, if he was town, he would NOT want that: town wants the town to win. If he was town he wouldn't want to be lynched. That could either be piss poor wording as town, or an appeal to honesty as scum. I've done the latter before, and it works.
He didn't find me scummy (honestly, the only reason I can figure scum didn't kill me was to try and incriminate me today, and I saw little of that) which was surprising: even though he said he'd be happy if I was lynched.
silver wrote:I'd ask that one of these 4 be the lynch for today (though again feel free to investigate all)
Lindisfarne
, Chaotic Neutrality, bvoigt, silverbullet999.
silver, in regards to who finds me and CN at the top of their scum lists wrote:I don't... well not you...
Those two posts were two days apart. One day he is down with me being lynched, then shortly after he says im not high on his scum list. Contradictory.
AAAAAAAAAAAAND then he vanishes. However, after researching, He hasn't voted on the site after his disappearance, making it seem more...legit, for lack of a better word.
TL;DR
Wow, All in all, im surprised. Theres some scummy bits from everyone, but besides snake not finding anything votably suspicious d2, nothing stands out majorly that rings as scumish. Looking over it all, im thinking maybe im just barking up a tree here.
[i][color=red]"He looks like the type of guy who can marathon write no matter his alignment without looking scummy at all." -Xtoxm[/color][/i]