SitMOA II - [Endgame] The end...

[Katsuki]

Except I didn't.

Barbarian-Wizard.

zzz.

[malthusis]

Stop spouting nonsense. If you were town, you would have mentioned that as the first thing of your post.

You claimed non-town, you flipped non-town, and you think you can somehow avoid a lynch? That's just hilarious.

[malthusis]

EBWOP: Let's not forget the original charge that got you lynched in the first place: Hammering a person for a quick-lynch for no reason.

[Katy]

I think, given the flip we have to lynch Kats today. There's simply no reason to believe you Kats, I'm sorry, but the flip was pretty damning.

VOTE: Katsuki - I believe that is number three.

However, it is a stretch to say that he CLAIMED scum. All he claimed was barbarian. The scum part of his flipped role is "sorceror."

Your posts have a worrying tendency to try to manipulate reality, Malthusis and I've still got my eye on you.

[malthusis]

However, it is a stretch to say that he CLAIMED scum. All he claimed was barbarian. The scum part of his flipped role is "sorceror."

*facepalm*

Stop spouting BS, scum.

The only town faction in this game is WIZARD, anyone else is scum or at least a third-party, I.E NOT TOWN.

I thought bolding things would make them more obvious.....

[Riceballtail]

VOTE:Kat

All that needs to be said.

[malthusis]

Any comments on the game so far RBT, considering you've posted nothing of value so far?

[gandalf5166]

When I said I would be alive tomorrow if there was a reviver with half a brain, I didn't think there would ACTUALLY be a reviver with half a brain. Something tells me that chesskid revived me by sacrificing himself. Really smart move actually, since he was certain to be lynched today otherwise. Actually, never mind, just saw malt's post, and that's far more likely.

Dammit........ why do I get the feeling that some retarded-ass governor stopped Kat from being lynched? PROTIP: Quicklynches on scum are GOOD. Quicklynches on town for next to no reasoning are BAD.

Katy is probably scum, and is possibly the governor who saved Kats, as she's defending someone who's already dead far too hard. Sounds like she doesn't want him to be QL'd again. My stance on Kats: I don't think he DID expect he'd be asked to explain himself, because the town had not done anything to suggest that they would act in a rational manner. While we're on this, this makes me think that some of the less random players are slightly more likely to be on the scumteam.

LOLKATS. I didn't even claim vig. And plus, why the hell would I try to do the EXACT same shit again? Kats is probably bulletproof(Barbarian bulletproof would fit. He probably loses his bulletproof if he uses certain abilities), so we're lynching him today.

LOLKATS. Acting like my lynch had any reasoning behind it, and somehow his didn't.

That said, I want Kats to fake-claim for us. He's already claimed at least TP, so let's see what he can think up.

Vigging Beefster tonight is an awesome plan. Then we'll lynch Katy tomorrow. Ooh, especially after that pseudo-bus vote.

VOTE: Kats

Don't lynch him before he claims, just in case. It is POSSIBLE that he's TP that flips scum. If he keeps pretending that he is own though, we'll have to lynch him on principle.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Are you going to damage Beefster tonight gandalf?

[gandalf5166]

Are you going to damage Beefster tonight gandalf?

I don't like the rolefishingz here. :/ I'd rather an insta vig take care of him, if there is one. I have other concerns.

[Albert B. Rampage]

The instavig is probably a scum ability and town's vig can only deal damage.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You already claimed you had a weapon that does 3 dmg, I'm not making stuff up.

[malthusis]

Gandalf, do you think is plausible for your resurrection:

I'm still stunned that you guys voted off Gandalf for no reason, and I agree that Katsuki needs to go.

Vote Katsuki

Also, I believe this answers your questions about the town reviver nicely:

Quotes from last game:

Riceballtail wrote:I was hoping the third party would end up being a Cleric, win condition being "Bring 3 town back to life".

This is... quite an interesting idea. Hmm...

A Kats claim wouldn't hurt at all, but I seriously think now that it's a lost cause since he's in "shut-up so he doesn't reveal his partners" mode once he realizes he's done.

[malthusis]

@Mod: Can you prod everyone who hasn't posted today?

[CryMeARiver]

If a vig doesn't work, we can always lynch Kat tomorrow.

There's your hole in your plan.

Vigs don't always work. Lynches do.

Why are you so hesitant to lynch a CONFIRMED SCUM? You even said it yourself, that he's scum, why do you want to change the lynch target?

I'm technically in a V/LA state right now since I won't get home til super late, but I lol'd at the bolded.

At this point in my reading, I am completely stunned at another quicklynch, happy that it resulted in scum, and surprised by him not dying. So far, the only thing that has been suggested is that town created this second lynch chance but I'm not so sure about that. It seems like Kat set himself up (claiming Barbarian, but not giving anything else away though he was supposedly "lynched") for what was about to happen. It might have been a resurrection type thing from the scum side. But that's kind of purposeless since it didn't proceed into a night phase...I'm not sure where I'm going with this and my mind is spinning from lack of sleep but it seems to me like Kat expected this to happen. I'll post more tomorrow.

[CryMeARiver]

@People who are trying to get Kats to claim: I read some of the stuff from the first Sorcerers Wizards game and if you try to get him to claim any abilities, I'm pinging you as possible 3rd party

[Albert B. Rampage]

Isn't Gandalf confirmed town?

[CryMeARiver]

Isn't Gandalf confirmed town?

Eh, I couldn't remember who else had asked for a claim from Kat besides Malt, but yes, I suppose you are correct.
Oh, if you're a freakin protective role, do not freakin wifom this shit tonight. If gandalf freakin dies tonight, I might freakin replace out and then come back to find out who the moron doc was, and then...nah I'll eventually get over it but you get the point. Ugh, back to work.

[gandalf5166]

@People who are trying to get Kats to claim: I read some of the stuff from the first Sorcerers Wizards game and if you try to get him to claim any abilities, I'm pinging you as possible 3rd party

Lolwut. HES CLAIMED THIRD PARTY. He can probably claim his non-magical abilities and be fine. Mainly I want to know his WC/mechanics of his role. In case anybody has missed this:

-Roles and factions:

There is at least one vanilla townie in the setup, as well as at least one mafia faction. All factions have a winnable condition. If a win condition is achieved, and it doesn't directly interfere with the win condition of another faction, the game will keep on. For example, if the win condition of a player is to get certain player lynched, should that player achieve that condition (and no other win condition is achieved at the same time), the game can keep on. There is at least one town faction and one scum faction. Town faction is called Wizards, while scum faction is called Sorcerers. Other factions may exist, and they may have wizards, sorcerers, or other classes.

This explicitly states that all town are WIZARDS. Yes, this means Nacho was TP. Which is why I want Kats to claim, in case he too can play with the town. And about Nacho: Yes, I am very confident that Nacho is the one who resurrected me, and that since it says SUPPORT cleric, he may have a partner(partner was probably included to reduce swinginess). I'm not really sure if that would be their WC, though. Maybe something that varies on that.

If we do have an insta-vig, I am telling them now: Don't kill Beefster. He will be dead by tomorrow night.

[gandalf5166]

Mod: Are people told when they take damage and how much damage they took?

[Katsuki]

Gandalf what the hell is TP?

[Tasky]

I see absolutely NO reason at all not to lynch Katsuki, he even claimed scum before dying!

VOTE: Katsuki

[Katy]

Katy is probably scum, and is possibly the governor who saved Kats, as she's defending someone who's already dead far too hard.

Where do I defend Katsuki? I'm not interested in defending him, he flipped scum.

My posting about Malthusis is not to defend Katsuki, but to point out how Malthusis words his posts, for example when Katsuki was quicklynched, he posted about how the people who quicklynched were idiots, when HE was the L-2 vote.

Now he is saying that Katsuki claimed scum because he didn't claim a wizard. Basically, I find this manner of posting suspect. We know that there are third parties that can have different classes in them, so claiming that any non-wizard claim is automatically scum is setting town up to lynch players in the future who could potentially help us.

Katsuki is scum because of his flip, not because he claimed barbarian.

[SnakePlissken]

A scum alive that is confirmed? Not for long.

Vote Katsuki

[Katsuki]

Hey hey just sayin', there's multiple scumteams out there. Rewq was my buddy, and we'll be down to one after my lynch.

And with that, Magneto bids adieu.