SitMOA II - [Endgame] The end...

[ThAdmiral]

If town doesn't mind, I would like the dagger (

in the

back).

Fixed

But I like

daggers in

my back

Fixed, again.

[gandalf5166]

I agree that Tasky's excuses are REALLY forced. I'll vote for him as soon as I get to see how the scroll works.

I'm starting to think differently. I mean if there was a chance that he wouldn't be able to read it and that this would prove him to be scum then picking up the scroll is a pretty risky move.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure at this point that the whole "only scum doesn't know what it does" thing is crap.

[CryMeARiver]

I agree that Tasky's excuses are REALLY forced. I'll vote for him as soon as I get to see how the scroll works.

I'm starting to think differently. I mean if there was a chance that he wouldn't be able to read it and that this would prove him to be scum then picking up the scroll is a pretty risky move.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure at this point that the whole "only scum doesn't know what it does" thing is crap.

I'll take a go at the scroll if you can't do anything with it lol feel like we're playin hot potato

[CryMeARiver]

Btw, gandalf, noticed this:

Gandalf, don't bother attacking me overnight your energies are best served elsewhere.

I say you save Katy (or chose a new target for tonight) for the night due to this. Also, in light of recent happenings, Snake has been rather protown. We might want to reconsider tomorrow, but I say he should live til tomorrow. I find Tasky as the best lynch today personally.

[gandalf5166]

Well, we know that something can be done with the scroll. I think I have an idea of what it does, and I think it's in the town's best interest for me to use it.

We'll lynch Tasky, and I'll attack Katy. However, anyone else who wants to help with Katy can feel free(I'll explain why later, but basically circumstances are different since Katy is sorcerer-scum).

[CryMeARiver]

Well, we know that something can be done with the scroll. I think I have an idea of what it does, and I think it's in the town's best interest for me to use it.

We'll lynch Tasky, and I'll attack Katy. However, anyone else who wants to help with Katy can feel free(I'll explain why later, but basically circumstances are different since Katy is sorcerer-scum).

...how did we deduce Katy was sorcerer scum again? I still don't see any commanding evidence...

[ThAdmiral]

I agree that Tasky's excuses are REALLY forced. I'll vote for him as soon as I get to see how the scroll works.

I'm starting to think differently. I mean if there was a chance that he wouldn't be able to read it and that this would prove him to be scum then picking up the scroll is a pretty risky move.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure at this point that the whole "only scum doesn't know what it does" thing is crap.

True, but did scum know this at the time?
Maybe, maybe not.

[Riceballtail]

I agree that Tasky's excuses are REALLY forced. I'll vote for him as soon as I get to see how the scroll works.

I'm starting to think differently. I mean if there was a chance that he wouldn't be able to read it and that this would prove him to be scum then picking up the scroll is a pretty risky move.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure at this point that the whole "only scum doesn't know what it does" thing is crap.

I'm town, and know what it does. That said, some scum must know what it does too, as they have a mole in the council QT.

[gandalf5166]

Well, we know that something can be done with the scroll. I think I have an idea of what it does, and I think it's in the town's best interest for me to use it.

We'll lynch Tasky, and I'll attack Katy. However, anyone else who wants to help with Katy can feel free(I'll explain why later, but basically circumstances are different since Katy is sorcerer-scum).

...how did we deduce Katy was sorcerer scum again? I still don't see any commanding evidence...

Pretty much all the evidence supporting Katy being scum is dependent on her being sorcerer-scum as far as I'm aware.

[Tasky]

drop scroll

.
gandalf, you can have it.

[Katy]

...how did we deduce Katy was sorcerer scum again? I still don't see any commanding evidence...

Because I wasn't in favor of the quick lynch on Katsuki (before we saw the flip). Because you know, lynching someone really quickly without even leaving time for discussion is always best play (IF they turn out to be scum that is).

I understand though - the quick lynches haven't left much time for building solid cases on anyone. There's not much to go on, so I understand why people leapt to the idea that a person who wasn't on that Katsuki wagon was scum with Katsuki. I've explained that I wasn't even online during that whole time. And if I have to take a hit at night, so be it. It's better that than a mislynch.

And Malthusis has predictably laid it out as me or RBT are the ONLY possibilities for sorceror-scum, which of course is not true. I think people are pretty much missing out on this possibility: Katsuki's scumbuddy bussed him EARLY on for placing the hammer, not predicting that there would be yet another quicklynch and they wouldn't have a chance to backpedal later.

[SnakePlissken]

@Crymeariver - Ive just been going back through various peoples comments and this kind of jumped out at me

Unvote; Vote Tasky

Said he was scummy long ago and his lack of content and

raping of items confirms it.

While im neither here nor there with Tasky at the moment, you mention people 'Playing Hot Potato' with items, however you seem to be the worst for it.

You have picked up and dropped the Vial and then the dagger twice:

You heard him mates. Though to warn you, it's pretty gay

Drop Dagger

Now you are talking about the scroll:

I'll take a go at the scroll if you can't do anything with it lol

And being as you voted for both myself and Tasky when we picked it up does that mean if you do we should vote for you? Why do you need to grab all these items? Is it becuase you are a Sorceror trying to gain knowledge before we get our hands on them to potentialy know who to block and what types of attacks from i.e. conjured or weapon? Looks a bit scumalicious to me.

[SnakePlissken]

I also meant to add the only reason you dropped the dagger because it 'was pretty gay' didn't do anything exciting or helpful for a sorceror so try and look all wizard like by dropping it for someone else?

[CryMeARiver]

...how did we deduce Katy was sorcerer scum again? I still don't see any commanding evidence...

Because I wasn't in favor of the quick lynch on Katsuki (before we saw the flip). Because you know, lynching someone really quickly without even leaving time for discussion is always best play (IF they turn out to be scum that is).

I understand though - the quick lynches haven't left much time for building solid cases on anyone. There's not much to go on, so I understand why people leapt to the idea that a person who wasn't on that Katsuki wagon was scum with Katsuki. I've explained that I wasn't even online during that whole time. And if I have to take a hit at night, so be it. It's better that than a mislynch.

And Malthusis has predictably laid it out as me or RBT are the ONLY possibilities for sorceror-scum, which of course is not true. I think people are pretty much missing out on this possibility: Katsuki's scumbuddy bussed him EARLY on for placing the hammer, not predicting that there would be yet another quicklynch and they wouldn't have a chance to backpedal later.

This is all true.

@Crymeariver - Ive just been going back through various peoples comments and this kind of jumped out at me

Unvote; Vote Tasky

Said he was scummy long ago and his lack of content and

raping of items confirms it.

While im neither here nor there with Tasky at the moment, you mention people 'Playing Hot Potato' with items, however you seem to be the worst for it.

You have picked up and dropped the Vial and then the dagger twice:

You heard him mates. Though to warn you, it's pretty gay

Drop Dagger

Now you are talking about the scroll:

I'll take a go at the scroll if you can't do anything with it lol

And being as you voted for both myself and Tasky when we picked it up does that mean if you do we should vote for you? Why do you need to grab all these items? Is it becuase you are a Sorceror trying to gain knowledge before we get our hands on them to potentialy know who to block and what types of attacks from i.e. conjured or weapon? Looks a bit scumalicious to me.

I also meant to add the only reason you dropped the dagger because it 'was pretty gay' didn't do anything exciting or helpful for a sorceror so try and look all wizard like by dropping it for someone else?

I did nothing twice.
I explained why I picked up and dropped each item at least once:
I picked up the vial because I thought it might be health potion (increase HP).
I dropped the vial because I could not use it and it's purpose was better served elsewhere (confirmed town gandalf)
I picked up the dagger because I knew Gandalf couldn't pick up more than one item in 24 hours and I didn't want scum to get it (I didn't know it's ability at the time)
I said would drop the dagger (before I knew it's ability) in 24 hours if Gandalf wanted it. Though I did say it had a gay ability, that is not the reason I dropped it. I said I would drop it first.
My comment about the scroll was because 4 or 5 people have had it and I wanted to see if I could read it.
Most of the info in those two posts are wrong. You can go with Admiral and tell your story walking as well.
(Also, what kind of info would scum gain from picking up and dropping all the items? Seems kind of pointless just to KNOW what they can do...)

[Snow_Bunny]

-Votecount-

2. Katy

[Healthy]

(3) - malthusis, ThAdmiral, Tasky
5. gandalf5166

[Healthy]

(0)
7. Tasky

[Healthy]

(3) - Bunnylover, CryMeARiver, vezokpiraka
9. CryMeARiver

[Healthy]

(0)
10. Bunnylover

[Healthy]

(0)
11. vezokpiraka

[Healthy]

(0)
12. SnakePlissken

[Healthy]

(0)
13. ThAdmiral

[Healthy]

(0)
15. Riceballtail

[Healthy]

(0)
16. malthusis

[Healthy]

(1) - Riceballtail

Not voting (3) - SnakePlissken, gandalf5166, , Katy

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is on February 13 at midnight (GMT -5)

[Tasky]

I just noticed something:

-Items:

When a player dies, its items are left unattended on the floor.

and when did we find the scroll? right after Katsuki died. this means, it is a sourcerer-scum-objekt.
I don't know what this means, but it definitely means Snake and vezok aren't sourcerers. since they'd probably know what it does and would pick it up "to know what it is"


UNVOTE: VOTE: CMAR

[Riceballtail]

Wow, way to misrep the situation there Tasky.

We also know that Beefster, ABR, and Cool died N3 too. Katsuki was lynched D3 (twice, even).

UNVOTE: VOTE:Tasky

Thanks for outing yourself so easily.

[Tasky]

Wow, way to misrep the situation there Tasky.

We also know that Beefster, ABR, and Cool died N3 too. Katsuki was lynched D3 (twice, even).

UNVOTE: VOTE:Tasky

Thanks for outing yourself so easily.

wtf are you talking about???
Katsuki dies, scroll appears, other people die in the night and other items are found

[gandalf5166]

Why is it relevant that the scroll was dropped by Katsuki?

Pick up Scroll

Unvote
Vote Tasky

[SnakePlissken]

You want me to hammer or shall I wait until Gandalf does what he needs to with this scroll?

[Tasky]

Why is it relevant that the scroll was dropped by Katsuki?

Pick up Scroll

Unvote
Vote Tasky

it is relevant because it means (sorcerer) scum knows what it does. and since Snake's and vezok's reactions seemed genuine, they aren't sorcerers

[gandalf5166]

Lol. What's genuine about those reactions? And why does that prove that CMAR is scum? We all know that Katy is sorcerer already.

[Tasky]

Lol. What's genuine about those reactions? And why does that prove that CMAR is scum? We all know that Katy is sorcerer already.

CMAR scum is independent from Snaketown and vezoknonsorcerer
and katy is scum too. I am fine lynching her

[malthusis]

Because I wasn't in favor of the quick lynch on Katsuki (before we saw the flip). Because you know, lynching someone really quickly without even leaving time for discussion is always best play (IF they turn out to be scum that is).

I understand though - the quick lynches haven't left much time for building solid cases on anyone. There's not much to go on, so I understand why people leapt to the idea that a person who wasn't on that Katsuki wagon was scum with Katsuki. I've explained that I wasn't even online during that whole time. And if I have to take a hit at night, so be it. It's better that than a mislynch.

And Malthusis has predictably laid it out as me or RBT are the ONLY possibilities for sorceror-scum, which of course is not true. I think people are pretty much missing out on this possibility: Katsuki's scumbuddy bussed him EARLY on for placing the hammer, not predicting that there would be yet another quicklynch and they wouldn't have a chance to backpedal later.

I think you are misunderstanding my case against you. It's not about something you DID or DIDN'T do, it's about what other people did.

Think about it: If you're scum, why would it be useful for you to say

"X is scum. BANDWAGONLOLZ

Vote X

"

That wouldn't have anything to do with bussing at all. No scum partner would simply put a vote on a person randomly that is their buddy that's about to get lynched. As you can see, it's nothing about you doing something that indicates you, it's about other people doing things that cleared them. (Note that this is only about the conversation of being sorcerers. If the spymasters are a 2nd scum faction, this has nothing to do in regards with them.)

We can argue all day about "but I was going to, but I wasn't online at the time". It honestly doesn't matter unless you are bringing some major evidence to the table that RBT or Bunny is scum. The only person who even looks close to doing any attempt at bussing is ABR, and he's dead.

[Snow_Bunny]

-Votecount-

2. Katy

[Healthy]

(2) - malthusis, ThAdmiral,
5. gandalf5166

[Healthy]

(0)
7. Tasky

[Healthy]

(5) - Bunnylover, CryMeARiver, vezokpiraka, Riceballtail, gandalf5166
9. CryMeARiver

[Healthy]

(1) - Tasky
10. Bunnylover

[Healthy]

(0)
11. vezokpiraka

[Healthy]

(0)
12. SnakePlissken

[Healthy]

(0)
13. ThAdmiral

[Healthy]

(0)
15. Riceballtail

[Healthy]

(0)
16. malthusis

[Healthy]

(0)

Not voting (2) - SnakePlissken, Katy

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Tasky is at L-1.

Deadline is on February 13 at midnight (GMT -5)