Nameless wrote:
implosion #152 wrote:I get a really bad feeling right now from the _over9000 wagon.
implosion #73 wrote:scum:
mongoose
nameless
over9000
^ Here implosion distances himself from a wagon that he helped to push.
This is out of context. I say that I have a bad feeling about the _over9000 wagon, then ELABORATE on that and explain that I think the people
on
the wagon are likely mafia. In that paragraph, I don't think I said much about whether or not over9000 himself is scum. Please reread my views on the _over9000 wagon. I do think he is scummy; however, I've stated multiple times that I think that whether or not he is mafia, there is mafia on his wagon. No distancing or contradiction exists here. Besides, right now I'm pushing mongoose, who isn't freaking answering a question i've had for several days.
Nameless wrote:
implosion #152 wrote:I'd rather withhold any lasting read on him until he posts content
implosion #90 wrote:As for _Over9000, His ISO 2 seems overly cautious and his ISO 3 seems overly unnecessary. mb's explained him.
^ Here implosion ignores his previous read and backtracks his own specific analysis, for the purpose of excusing himself from taking a stance.
Keyword: lasting. Over9000 needs to post more content before a strong read can be made, imo.
Nameless wrote:
implosion #152 wrote:I'd bet there's at least one scum on his wagon right now
implosion #164 wrote:I agree, he looks scummy right now, and the votes on him are justified
^ Here implosion implicitly contradicts himself; ie. if the votes are justified, there's no reason to assume any given voter is scum.
Wrong, and misrepresentation. I've explained multiple times why I think there is scum on his wagon, but I'll humor you and say it again.
Case one: _Over9000 is town. Mafia will jump on the wagon because he is an incredibly easy mislynch. Just because a mafia is voting a townie, it doesn't mean that their vote can't be "justified." It means that they're voting a mislynch, but it can still be a justified vote. A vote being justified has a correlation with someone being mafia, but not all townies' votes are necessarily justified and not all mafia's votes are necessarily unjustified.
Case two: _Over9000 is scum. Mafia will jump on the wagon because it's likely to hit a lynch, and they need to be seen as bussing. For those that are town, imagine that you were mafia (in fact, there are likely 3 mafia who all could be doing this). Wouldn't you jump on the Over9000 wagon whether he was a townie or a scumbuddy?
Nameless wrote:
implosion #152 wrote:He isn't as much of an easy target, but he is to an extent.
^ Here implosion gives his stance on a major bandwagon (WoMC) ... as a meaningless, wishy-washy statement.
I'm saying I don't like it, but I dislike it less than the over9000 wagon. How is that wishy-washy? You've taken it completely and horribly out of context. In context, this comes immediately after I talk about the _over9000 wagon, which I said was a very easy target (be he town or mafia).
Nameless wrote:
implosion #164 wrote:Or rather, I feel like if I were scum, I would push very hard on him because he appears unlikely to defend himself well. For the same reason, if I were scum and _over9000 is scum, I'd make sure to be on his wagon in case it goes through so that it becomes a bus.
^ Here implosion very heavily WIFOMs to convince the town his actions are not scummy.
This isn't WIFOM - this is me considering what I would do if I were scum in this situation. You can see it as WIFOM if you want, and there's really nothing I can do, but it isn't.
Fair amount of misrep in that case thar.