It's schtoopid. Schtoopidity is anti-town.GreyICE wrote:Okay, unless we have masons out there, most townies know one person with their alignment. Scum know multiple people with their alignment. They can nominate a 'pro-town' scum and wagon them up to governor.
EXPLAIN THIS VERY INSTANT WHY IT IS ANTI-TOWN TO NOMINATE YOURSELF. DO IT.
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The governor ability sucks anyways. 1 person can't die woahhhhhh if they governor did it to someone scummy that everyone wanted dead they'd b hung the next day....it really is nothing more than maybe a conversation starter...something scum can hide behind talking about.
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EXPLANATION INSUFFICIENT.DrippingGoofball wrote:
It's schtoopid. Schtoopidity is anti-town.GreyICE wrote:Okay, unless we have masons out there, most townies know one person with their alignment. Scum know multiple people with their alignment. They can nominate a 'pro-town' scum and wagon them up to governor.
EXPLAIN THIS VERY INSTANT WHY IT IS ANTI-TOWN TO NOMINATE YOURSELF. DO IT.
VOTE REMAINS.
THIS IS NOT RVS. SCUM WILL SEEK TO RAISE OTHER SCUM.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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A Hydra is just multiple people playing under one name.Shadow1psc wrote:Someone wanna explain what a hydra brings to the game (mafia in general, not this theme)?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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You know I'm all about the policy lynches, but shadow is cheeky scum.Benmage wrote: I'd join the wagon on my bro Percy.....but we should already get down to business. Which VI goes first?
vote chesskid
This man speaks wisdom.Magua wrote:That said, Raise: Twilight Sparkle because I'm rather confident than my reads and their reads will be similar, which would lead to similar usage of the governor ability unless they're scum, in which case, woo, caught scum.
It's not random.Shadow1psc wrote:lol @ rvbw *shrug*
Just us, I think.Ben wrote:What hydras we dealing with?
Hydras are formed for a few reasons. Ours is primarily because no one of us feels we can keep up with Storm of Swords completely on our own. We can all read along, but we are all long winded posters and sometimes it's hard to find time to make a post. So we all input our thoughts in a hydra QT and the person with the most time can input all three of our opinions in-thread.Shadow1psc wrote:Someone wanna explain what a hydra brings to the game (mafia in general, not this theme)?
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Don't you *want* scum to raise other scum?GreyICE wrote:THIS IS NOT RVS. SCUM WILL SEEK TO RAISE OTHER SCUM.-
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It would seem to me more scummy that people bw raise another person. Self raising doesn't seem inherently scummy in the slightest. Inb4 "you're scum for not thinking what you did is scummy""I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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No, you're scummy for Raising without voting and your only justification for self-raising being "a concise way to piss off zoraster."Shadow1psc wrote:It would seem to me more scummy that people bw raise another person. Self raising doesn't seem inherently scummy in the slightest. Inb4 "you're scum for not thinking what you did is scummy"Twilight Sparkle is a majestic pony union of hitogoroshi, Mina, and Sotty7.-
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I know like two people in this game. Since when is not throwing a random vote that's just gonna be retracted scummy? I can random vote comically, but not self raise comically? I don't expect in the slightest to get the power, nor do I want it."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Raising yourself tells us nothing about you. Three days from now, it will still tell us nothing about you.Shadow1psc wrote:It would seem to me more scummy that people bw raise another person. Self raising doesn't seem inherently scummy in the slightest. Inb4 "you're scum for not thinking what you did is scummy"
Raising someone else tells us nothing about you *at this point in time*. Three days from now, it may tell us quite a bit about you.
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What's the point of everybody raising themselves??????????GreyICE wrote:SCUM WILL SEEK TO RAISE OTHER SCUM.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Explain why. Because you played Clash of Kings. So yeah, explain.DGB wrote:I will vig anyone that raises themselves beyond this post.
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Please explain the bolded. Who are the other few you would trust and why do you trust them Page 1?GreyICE wrote:I want the governor powers out of play, andI'm one of the few I trustto put them there.
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Benmage makes a solid point here. I want to expand upon it.benmage wrote:I'd join the wagon on my bro Percy.....but we should already get down to business. Which VI goes first?
vote chesskid
To those who did not play in Clash of Kings please review it. A VI (CSL) killed the Town. He had been under pressure early on (Day 2) and was let of the hook for being a VI. Later he quickhammered the Town Doctor before a claim could be made and was still not held accountable. Obviously scum left him for the end-game scenario where he self-hammered as Town and facilitated the scum joint win.
The moral of the story – if a VI player is playing scummy you lynch / vig them. Giving a VI a pass based on being a VI assures they get deeper in the game where their poor decisions and actions have a greater negative impact be they Town or Scum.
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Some people are really cranky.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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That's a fair point, but one could say the same value of voting. I saw voting and raising as an empirically equivalent action as far as pure statistics goes. I could have random self voted to, it happens and people don't tend to freak out over it in RVS. If it makes you guys feel better though;Magua wrote:
Raising yourself tells us nothing about you. Three days from now, it will still tell us nothing about you.Shadow1psc wrote:It would seem to me more scummy that people bw raise another person. Self raising doesn't seem inherently scummy in the slightest. Inb4 "you're scum for not thinking what you did is scummy"
Raising someone else tells us nothing about you *at this point in time*. Three days from now, it may tell us quite a bit about you.
Self-raising isn't scummy per se; it is, however, pointless for the town, which is what makes it attractive to scum.
Unraise: Shadow1psc
pedit: I have had a similar experience with Chesskid in a mini theme."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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I have infinite multiple dayvig powers. I'm swinging Excalibur.MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Explain why. Because you played Clash of Kings. So yeah, explain.DGB wrote:I will vig anyone that raises themselves beyond this post.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Noooooottt really, no. Don't have this amazing desire to find out what scum can do with a governor power. Don't have an amazing desire to find out if there's any powers that scum have brought online with this "Hand of the King" mechanic. Don't have any desire to find out that they have some sort of godfather powers or turn cops naive, or can get some cool thing if they're hand.Magua wrote:
Don't you *want* scum to raise other scum?GreyICE wrote:THIS IS NOT RVS. SCUM WILL SEEK TO RAISE OTHER SCUM.
I will claim this: I have absolutely no role powers that are turned on by being hand, I get nothing out of it besides what is stated in this thread, and I will use the Governor power for only the reason of preventing the lynch ofconfirmedtown (and I don't mean their posts have been kinda townish), and absolutely not at all on day 1, period.
I have no desire for a midgame governor surprise because someone is trigger happy. And I don't want it to go to Twilight Sparkle, because frankly Sotty7 is dangerous enough as scum, nevermind throwing in two other excellent players, and I'm going to treat that hydra like a giant timebomb until it's confirmed town or confirmed dead.
It's a serious candidacy - I'm voting for myself, because I trust myself here.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Also Goofball vote is serious. I'm getting the feeling Goofball came swinging out day 1 with a gameplan and the self voting threw a spanner in the works. Look at the first post in the thread.
Goofball is flailing coming up for explanations on why it's anti-town. I want to see her thoughts and her thoughts alone here.
@MoI- at the moment, 'few' is composed solely of me. If at some point, say, our esteemed moderator dropped into the thread and said "Hey, Chesskid3 is an innocent child, and is confirmed town" I'd STILL not want him with the powers. I don't want "LOL governor obvscum because I like their avatar" in this thread or anything resembling that. Seeing the players on the list, there are quite a few I'd trust with the powers if they were confirmed town - Locke Lamora, for instance. As I get a better feel for people, I MIGHT support another player if he feels very town to me and it feels like an actual consensus wagon, not a scum-pushing-scum wagon. But I'd prefer me.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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