Execution Mafia GAMEOVER!
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Also, sorry, Umbrage... I've been calling you a man this whole game. :/-
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Umbrage Mafia Scum
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@ Exe: Not even trying to convince other people that you are town or that certain people are scum is practically the definition of bad play. Are you trying to get a reputation as some sort of a cowboy? Because the only reputation you're getting is that of a VI.
Meta is trying using a player's history to try and tell their alignment. Using a tactic that has worked before is not meta. Even you want to argue that it is, they are completely different concepts. If I shoot a gun and kill someone once, then if I want to kill someone, I will shoot a gun at them, just like I will use the same tactic again if it works before. This is called learning. Meta is different. What you're suggesting is like playing poker with someone, and assuming that because they bluffed once, they will always bluff. It doesn't work. You can't predict other people's behaviour, especially when that person knows that their behaviour will probably be examined. You can however, predict the effectiveness of various tactics.Exe wrote:You know what's really amusing? How hypocritical you are.
[quote="Exe"Despite the word "if," she specifically told me I was the worst player, meaning that subconsciously she thought I was a bad town. Her instincts told her that I was town, even though she tried to make it seem like it was only an if.[/quote]
Worst = anti-town
Worst =/= bad townie
Not seeing how you could make that mistake. I'd say it's pretty clear what I meant.
Amrun, begin reading here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p2757550
I guess I should change it back, but it's been fun being a female.I'll explain it to you. You have to get someone else to understand it for you.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Seeing as I called Exe a VI already, I basically agree with that post.
And oh, I see. I just get tired of getting called "he" on this site when it says it right under my name so I was ashamed to be caught doing the same thing.-
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Twistedspoon Jack of All Trades
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Just woken, will read topic again when I return from school
Tragedy wrote: @TS: I see, I see. You're sexiness has now risen by 2%.
Thanks Exe. I've realised that the loss of the mafia benefits the town much more than the keeping of one townie. That's why is far more important that I don't get caught up in defending myself, and remember to concentrate on my scum hunting/questioning. The advantage that the mafia has is that sometimes the town forget they're playing as a team with a team win condition. If each townie merely defended himself then we'd get nowhere. That's why I've attempted to use questions in my defences too. I really appreciate the advice, Exe.Exe wrote:Oh and a last note before I go for awhile.
@TS: If you really are town, I hope you'll take this to heart. If you are under attack, try to focus more on finding scum than defending yourself. The best way to prove yourself town is to be pro-town, and being pro-town means scumhunting. Just a tip.
Later
~Twistedspoon1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
"Murder is no better than cards if cards can do the trick"
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mallowgeno Mafia Scum
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CooLDoG Mafia Scum
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vezokpiraka Jack of All Trades
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Umbrage Mafia Scum
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Exe Mafia Scum
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Your insults are such an effective scumhunting strategy Your arrogance knows know bounds.Umbrage wrote:@ Exe: Not even trying to convince other people that you are town or that certain people are scum is practically the definition of bad play. Are you trying to get a reputation as some sort of a cowboy? Because the only reputation you're getting is that of a VI.
But no, you're right, I bow down to your unbelievably superior knowledge of mafiascum. Oh great Umbrage, let me learn from your infinite wisdom.
LOL. Yeah, right.
Please, stop wasting the town's time. This isn't a newbie game, you aren't an IC, and as far as I can tell, nothing you say about what I should or shouldn't be doing even matters.
So here's a tip: START SCUMHUNTING. Because I honestly couldn't care less whether you think I am a VI.
Bullshit alert, bullshit alert!Umbrage wrote:Worst = anti-town
Worst =/= bad townie
Not seeing how you could make that mistake. I'd say it's pretty clear what I meant.
You're telling me that in your anger, you gave me an award for being a good scum?
Bull, fucking, shit.
You were ANGRY. You were RAGING. And let's stop bullshitting, shall we? People rage at BAD TOWNIES. NO ONE RAGES AT EFFECTIVE SCUM.
If you thought I was scum AND thought I was anti-town, YOU WOULDN'T CRITICIZE ME, YOU WOULD CONGRATULATE ME.
In other news, I'm entertained that TS is closer to understanding the logic of my playstyle than Umbrage and Amrun will ever be. And he's the alleged "newb" lol. Bravo to you, sir.
@Vezo: Shut up about the fucking role. If you really are a PR, you need to just stop completely. If you're bluffing, or worse, if I'm wrong and you're scum making shit up, you're gonna die. So either way, you have incentive to stop.
@Umbrage, regarding Vezo: Ok, that post was seriously pants-on-head silly. But it wasn't scummy. Unless you believe Vezo is in the business of big elaborate theatrics when he is scum, which I've never seen him do. This shouldn't be rocket science.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
Do not expect me to play to a meta.-
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Umbrage Mafia Scum
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Your response to my finding you scummy is to tell me to start scumhunting?So here's a tip: START SCUMHUNTING. Because I honestly couldn't care less whether you think I am a VI.
Wat?You're telling me that in your anger, you gave me an award for being a good scum?
Uh, no, because good scum are pro-town. Or at least they don't get caught doing anti-town things. Looking anti-town is always bad, unless you're a jester.If you thought I was scum AND thought I was anti-town, YOU WOULDN'T CRITICIZE ME, YOU WOULD CONGRATULATE ME.I'll explain it to you. You have to get someone else to understand it for you.-
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Exe Mafia Scum
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OH you find me scummy? I thought you said I was a VI? Yay cognitive dissonance!
It's ok, I understand. You can't decide how better to get me lynched. Calling me scum or calling me a VI is a tough choiceNote: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
Do not expect me to play to a meta.-
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Exe Mafia Scum
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Umbrage Mafia Scum
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Exe Mafia Scum
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Nice backpedaling, but VI is a term that is used on townies. Hence why sometimes scum FAKE being a VI because it makes them look townie.Umbrage wrote:Being a VI does not exclude you from being scum.
Oh really?Umbrage wrote:I think you're trying to build a meta for yourself.
Maybe you should actually read the games I play. Your reasoning is basically shit when you consider the fact that I do this all the time. This is a strategy.
But no, that would involve you actually being town, and since you're scum you'll just keep trying to come up with more reasons to back up your steadily failing argument.
The amount of backpedaling you do is astounding.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
Do not expect me to play to a meta.-
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Umbrage Mafia Scum
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I've never heard that before. As I understand it, a VI is any player that plays badly and refuses to improve.Nice backpedaling, but VI is a term that is used on townies.
That just proves my theory. You don't create a meta with one game.Maybe you should actually read the games I play. Your reasoning is basically shit when you consider the fact that I do this all the time. This is a strategy.
And if you want me to stop 'backpedaling', maybe you should stop putting words in my mouth.I'll explain it to you. You have to get someone else to understand it for you.-
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Twistedspoon Jack of All Trades
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ThanksExe wrote: In other news, I'm entertained that TS is closer to understanding the logic of my playstyle than Umbrage and Amrun will ever be. And he's the alleged "newb" lol. Bravo to you, sir.
I'm a quick learner I guess
anyways, I just want to do this now before I forget.
Prod StrungOver please
I'll try to post later today
~Twistedspoon1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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Exe Mafia Scum
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Ironic how you don't understand the term you are using, and yet you treat me like I should bow down to your mafia expertise.Umbrage wrote:I've never heard that before. As I understand it, a VI is any player that plays badly and refuses to improve
No, it proves my theory. Because it's the strategy with which I hunt scum. That's why I've done it in my TOWN GAMES.Umbrage wrote:That just proves my theory. You don't create a meta with one game.
ROFL. Yes, "putting words in your mouth" AKA analyzing your posts.Umbrage wrote:And if you want me to stop 'backpedaling', maybe you should stop putting words in my mouth.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
Do not expect me to play to a meta.-
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Umbrage Mafia Scum
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All the more reason why you would try to do it as scum. As I said, all meta is WIFOM, and worthless.No, it proves my theory. Because it's the strategy with which I hunt scum. That's why I've done it in my TOWN GAMES.
I'm not interested in getting into a posting war, all it does is spam the thread and distract the town.I'll explain it to you. You have to get someone else to understand it for you.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Meta is a bad argument and a bad defense. Stop using it.
You thinking being obv anti-town is being "good scum" is absolutely baffling, Exe.
I do think I understand your playstyle, I just think it's crap.-
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Shattered Viewpoint Mafia Scum
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Exe Mafia Scum
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The issue with Umbrage, is if he actually believed his argument about me making a Meta, then her whole scum case would fall apart.
Basically, if you honestly think I am building a meta, then the ONLY thing you know for sure is that I might be either town OR scum based on my playstyle.
If meta is all WIFOM then it's WIFOM in BOTH directions.
But your only real scumtell on me is my strategy, which AS YOU SAID, proves NOTHING. If it's my universal meta, it's a NULL TELL.
So get a real case.
Are you even reading Umbrage's posts? For fucks sake, Umbrage goes from calling me deliberately anti-town, to retarded, to trying to build a meta, to whatever he can find.Amrun wrote:Meta is a bad argument and a bad defense. Stop using it.
He is REACHING AT STRAWS. DO YOU NOT FREAKING SEE IT?
Right because being obviously anti-town is definitely what we were talking about. /sarcasm.Amrun wrote:You thinking beingobv anti-townis being "good scum" is absolutely baffling, Exe.
I'm pretty sure that killing a townie and not leaving town to decide who to vote for at night AND causing most of the town to think I was a VT would be A PRETTY FUCKING GOOD SCUM STRAT.
GOOD. I'M SO GLAD. YOU'VE NOW STATED YOUR OPINION, SO MOVE THE FUCK ON.Amrun wrote:I do think I understand your playstyle, I just think it's crap.
God. What the fuck was the point of that post Amrun? You haven't commented on a single post Umbrage has made in the past few hours, even though they are laughably bad. Even if you think I am anti-town, you cannot possibly in your right mind miss the fact that Umbrage is flailing to try to find some argument that sticks to me.
Everyone should get over the fact that they hate my strategy. If you think it makes me scum, then fucking kill me. If not, then stop fucking talking about it, and start hunting for scum.
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P-Edit: Yes, SV, happily.Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.
Do not expect me to play to a meta.-
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Umbrage Mafia Scum
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@ Exe: I don't find you scum because of your meta. I find you scum because you deliberately playing in a way that harms the town.
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He needs to die. This game has become all about him. He's allowing players like StrungOver to slip underneath the radar. He's not contributing anything that doesn't revolve around himself. This is not a healthy situation. I believe he is scum, but I would kill him even if he is town. We can't scumhunt like this. As for the nightkill, I suggest Vezok, as most of us agree he is scummy, but that's debatable. Exe's death is not. It needs to happen if town is to do anything.
UNVOTE: whoever I'm voting
I will vote whoever promises to kill Exe.I'll explain it to you. You have to get someone else to understand it for you.-
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Exe Mafia Scum
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