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LimMePls Mafia Scum
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I did ask him. Now I'm asking you. Since you claim to be suspicious of him, but leave out any mention of these things, despite the fact that they are the most egregiously scummy things he's done.
Now that I've held your hand, ANSWER THE QUESTIONS."LynchMePls is more town than all the players I've ever declared to be townies. And that's never going to change." - Drippereth
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GreyICE Fifty Shades
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Page fucking 8. 14 pages ago.GreyICE wrote:
Spoiler: If you're gonna give me that buffet, it's definitely Zoraster by about a dozen miles.DrippingGoofball wrote:One of these players is scum:
Hasdgfas, zoraster, Twilight Sparkle, MikujinShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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chesskid3 Survivor
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Jesus christ man its like you're all figments of my imagination, and my imagination is ignoring me :/Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Ugh. I really do need to pay attention to you more. Sorry Chesschesskid3 wrote:Jesus christ man its like you're all figments of my imagination, and my imagination is ignoring me :/ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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zoraster He/HimDisorganized CrimeHe/Him
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Time on a vote is evidence of its correctness? Or what is your point here?GreyICE wrote:
Page fucking 8. 14 pages ago.GreyICE wrote:
Spoiler: If you're gonna give me that buffet, it's definitely Zoraster by about a dozen miles.DrippingGoofball wrote:One of these players is scum:
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Because you can have a town read on someone you don't trust to use the power, for one?diddin, 252 wrote:If you're as confident that GreyICE is town as it seems you are, why are you still raising Twilight Sparkle?
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I like both diddin andGreyICEfor lynching, but I think diddin is the superior lynch at this point. Zoraster and maybe MoI at a decent third. Maybe bunnylover.
Raise: Twilight Sparkle
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Hi guys. Catching up with my life after my sickness has been hard, and I haven't had time to read this game. I will do so, but it may take me a few days.
In the meantime, does anyone want to summarize the highlights of today?Stars Aligned III continues!-
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I'm male, for the record.Locke Lamora wrote:I'm tired of people talking about the governor ability. Let's lynch Mikujin. I get the feeling her DGB votes are more based on the idea that DGB is being stupid than DGB is being scummy. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of conviction that DGB is actually scum.Douchebags get kind of a bad rap. They provide a useful service.-
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Gonna help the scum bus.
VOTE: Locke LamoraParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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I see a distant light on the horizon... can it be? Yes! The end of the thread!
In other words, I'm finally completely caught up, having escaped catchup hell, and can start playing this game the way it is meant to be played.
Some observations from along the way:
I see Mikujin has fallen under suspicion for first not providing reads or doing public scumhunting, then jumping to DGB supposedly to avoid pressure for having no vote. I see the scum motivation of laying low like this, but I'd really like us to have a better case today. I have been guilty of acting the same, as town. If he is still like this after a day or two, that will be different, but for now I'm content leaving him alone.
I had a look back at what DGB did at the start of the thread. She posted her first list of reads fairly early, though it was after Locke had called her out for not doing it. She then gave Locke a scum read. She left out LynchMePls from her first scum list, MoI noticed she was still voting him, and she added him to her scum list in her next post. Oddly, she mentioned that hasdgfas could be faking in both of her first lists, but it was not until Magua bet that he was faking that DGB moved hasdgfas to her scum list and began to push him.
And get this: throughout the game, despite pushing for hasdgfas, DGB always kept her original random-stage vote on LynchMePls, who she never tried to push. Only now she moved her vote to Locke, and between him and zoraster, I'm more confident of Locke being town.
Like so many others, I'm getting a scummy feel from zoraster. And from diddin. Raivann looks worse to me than either of them though. He posted some scum reads early on, but instead of keeping his vote on one of them, he voted Song of Ice and Fire, who had only posted once, less than a day earlier. There was no rhyme or reason to that vote, and what is worse, Raivann has since then tried to justify that vote and kept it there. Also, the way he replied twice to the same post, one hour part, looks simply weird. He first dares me to vote Song, then appears to mock the way I reported what I was up to.
You hadRaivann #393 wrote:So you don't like it, but I also made a good point? Huh? You didn't like it so much that you posted this, but I made a good point?onegood point. The rest of them made me feel like you were grasping at straws to make it appear like you had a case. That is what I disliked about it. I won't be supporting a Song (now Thor) lynch based on this. Also, what was the purpose of your second reply to the same post, one hour later?
Sadly, I've seen town fake a post restriction and get lynched over it. I trust hasdgfas would be experienced enough to know that though.MagnaofIllusion #407 wrote:If you really think he's faking push a wagon on him. Town has ZERO reason to fake that sort of PR.
On the other hand, I've seen a third party fake three different post restrictions during a single game, and get away with it. It was a strange role, and a strange game.
Anyway, I'm no stranger to post restrictions, though I've never had one myself. In the games where I've seen them, the post restricted players havealwaysattracted attention, and there has always been a portion of players who want to lynch them, for no other reason than that they are post restricted. I'm seeing the same here. I see people saying that they think that the restriction is fake, but less in the way of reasons. Bunnylover in particular seems to be tunneling on hasdgfas, despite having no reason to believe the restriction is fake other than outguessing the mod. DGB had some meta of hasdgfas being scum and post restricted before. That makes it more likely he could be faking, but it is no proof. xvart had meta on one of the moderators, saying Faraday would not give such an obscure restriction. That sounds somewhat better to me, but there is still nothing scummy anyone can pin on hasdgfas. Or is there? I have to admit that it ispossiblehe is scum, but does anyone have a reason why it would beprobable? If there is, I'm missing it.
I think the best thing to do is wait and see, and not get distracted. hasdgfas sticks out, he is not getting away with anything scummy now.
I caught up at a good time for this. This is the first truly good catch I remember seeing from you. We'll see how xvart explains it.GreyICE #532 wrote:Someone forgot who their town reads were supposed to be by the end of their own wallpost.
It looks like I have two fine suspects in DGB and Raivann. Due to DGB being DGB, I'm less certain about her being scum though, I have known her reads to change arbitrarily as town. Raivann looks scummiest to me right now. He made a strange vote on Song, and since then has been scrambling for reasons to call it a vote on scum.
Vote: Raivann
I'm alone in raising hasdgfas as Hand... not useful. I see Benmage leading the votes, followed by Twilight Sparkle and Magua. Benmage may be town, but I haven't liked the confidence with which he has been asking for votes. Twilight Sparkle have said they won't use the ability. That leaves Magua, and I'm fine with him. The only posts from him I've not liked were from the exchange with zoraster about his worst case scenario. Those were tedious and not that useful, since that situation is very unlikely to occur anyway.
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LimMePls Mafia Scum
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Benmage Survivor
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I wanna get back in here...busy last few days. If I can't later tonight after I eat something I will tomorrow."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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xvart Mafia Scum
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It's hardly busy work as all he needed to do was just what he did: restate what he stated. I missed/forgot/didn't care enough to remember that Magua was giving the role to someone to help get a stronger read on someone. All I saw when reading was Percy's posts about being sick and then a Raise out of the blue (or so I thought).Twilight Sparkle, 516 wrote:I'm not talking about raising Percy in partiuclar, I'm talking about Magua and who is choosing to raise and why. He is doing it in an attempt to read people as far as I can gather as reinforced in post 349. Your question reads like busy work.
GreyICE - with respect to rolefishing and zoraster's comment, what do you think of my comment about giving the governor to an investigation role?GreyICE, 521 wrote:Here's mentioning a vigilante:
"While this cop guilty means we have to Lynch MoI today, DGB's early defense makes her pretty much vigbait.""
Here's rolefishing:
"Just a thought. If we KNEW we had a vigilante, this would be clearer: give it to vig bait and let him get shot."
Nope. My first question was a rhetorical question or maybe better described as an example and not an opinion of mine. The question wasn't even asked to me, but I responded to the question with a question, like "Did you think about this possibility?" The point I was making is that people aren't automatically going to give the Governor ability to the person they find most likely to be town. Case in point: you. Apparently a lot of people think you are town but you aren't getting the Raise. Even if I thought you were obvtown I wouldn't want you raised because I don't trust you with that ability.GreyICE, 532 wrote:xvart wrote:
Because you can have a town read on someone you don't trust to use the power, for one?diddin, 252 wrote:If you're as confident that GreyICE is town as it seems you are, why are you still raising Twilight Sparkle?
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I like both diddin andGreyICEfor lynching, but I think diddin is the superior lynch at this point. Zoraster and maybe MoI at a decent third. Maybe bunnylover.
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Someone forgot who their town reads were supposed to be by the end of their own wallpost.
If you read back through my posts it should be pretty clear that I've never thought that GreyICE was town, and leaning the opposite.I only read quote walls.
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chesskid3 Survivor
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chesskid3 wrote:give me governor then
i'm always on lol
don't know what that has to do with anything
BUT I GET AWESOME SUPAPOWERS IF I GET HAND
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zoraster He/HimDisorganized CrimeHe/Him
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This is a good question to pose. How do you intend to give it to an investigative role without outing one? Mine I didn't need to know who was the vig to direct him to shoot the Hand if we went the scummy hand route (though, as I mentioned, I had neglected to think of the lynch possibility). How do you give it to an investigative role?GreyICE - with respect to rolefishing and zoraster's comment, what do you think of my comment about giving the governor to an investigation role?.-
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I read your ISO. Nothing of the sort is clear. All you've done is ask questions and wander around in an attempt to find the nearest bandwagon to jump on. Information over analysis? That isn't a description, it's like your life motto.xvart wrote: Nope. My first question was a rhetorical question or maybe better described as an example and not an opinion of mine. The question wasn't even asked to me, but I responded to the question with a question, like "Did you think about this possibility?" The point I was making is that people aren't automatically going to give the Governor ability to the person they find most likely to be town. Case in point: you. Apparently a lot of people think you are town but you aren't getting the Raise. Even if I thought you were obvtown I wouldn't want you raised because I don't trust you with that ability.
If you read back through my posts it should be pretty clear that I've never thought that GreyICE was town, and leaning the opposite.
You clearly stated that I was obvtown and then by the end of the post I was one of the people you wanted to lynch because there was a couple votes on me and you saw a decent chance of a wagon.
Everyone: Read xvart's ISO. Then lynch obvscum.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Raivann Mafia Scum
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I thought you were scummier after I ISO'ed you too.zoraster wrote:Raivann, upon second inspection is scummy. I feel like he's going for a sort of "hit and run" post style that keeps him under the radar yet active. Without reviewing anything, can you remember anything Raivann has said or what his positions are? No? Me neither, and I just reread his iso. Pretty reluctant to vote
I'm not reluctant to vote, I just happen to like my vote on Thor(Song).
Here's my scumreads- Thor,Feysal, MoI, and Bunnylover.
If Feysal is still alive after Thor flips scum, he should be next to hang.
Having said all that i like GreyICE's case..
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GreyICE, can you please show where xvart claims to have a townread on you? diddin's 252 is in reply to me and *my* townread on you.GreyICE wrote:Everyone: Read xvart's ISO. Then lynch obvscum.-
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this is why my vote never moved from himGreyICE wrote:
I read your ISO. Nothing of the sort is clear. All you've done is ask questions and wander around in an attempt to find the nearest bandwagon to jump on. Information over analysis? That isn't a description, it's like your life motto.xvart wrote: Nope. My first question was a rhetorical question or maybe better described as an example and not an opinion of mine. The question wasn't even asked to me, but I responded to the question with a question, like "Did you think about this possibility?" The point I was making is that people aren't automatically going to give the Governor ability to the person they find most likely to be town. Case in point: you. Apparently a lot of people think you are town but you aren't getting the Raise. Even if I thought you were obvtown I wouldn't want you raised because I don't trust you with that ability.
If you read back through my posts it should be pretty clear that I've never thought that GreyICE was town, and leaning the opposite.
You clearly stated that I was obvtown and then by the end of the post I was one of the people you wanted to lynch because there was a couple votes on me and you saw a decent chance of a wagon.
Everyone: Read xvart's ISO. Then lynch obvscum.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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xvart Mafia Scum
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If you read my ISO then please point out any indication that I thought you were town. And your commentary about me wandering around asking questions was my 13 page catch up since I hadn't been in the game yet. Anyways, to clarify (since you seemed to have missed the point) about my "obvtown read" the original quote:GreyICE, 544 wrote:I read your ISO. Nothing of the sort is clear. All you've done is ask questions and wander around in an attempt to find the nearest bandwagon to jump on. Information over analysis? That isn't a description, it's like your life motto.
You clearly stated that I was obvtown and then by the end of the post I was one of the people you wanted to lynch because there was a couple votes on me and you saw a decent chance of a wagon.
Everyone: Read xvart's ISO. Then lynch obvscum.
The "for one?" at the end of the statement should make it pretty obvious that it was an example and not a declaration of agreement with the read of whoever diddin was quoting that you were town. Suggesting otherwise is a huge stretch.xvart, 338 wrote:
Because you can have a town read on someone you don't trust to use the power, for one?diddin, 252 wrote:If you're as confident that GreyICE is town as it seems you are, why are you still raising Twilight Sparkle?
And you didn't answer my question why you are all up in arms about zoraster and his vig comment and didn't say peep about me commenting on giving Governor to an investigative role.I only read quote walls.
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