Newbie Game 1058: Murder in Bitville! (OVER!)

[drmyshottyizsik]

/confirm. I feel it unnesisary to answer those rqs questions because by page four we should be moving out of the random stage. it is danferous to stay in a random stage too long because the scum will start using it and manipulating the town. I am at school right now I haven't read all four pages yet. I will begin that now but lets start moving out of the random stage. If we stay in it much larger the game will stall out and go no where and we will end up lynching some one with out reason because deadline is to close.

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DID CIRNO JUST CLAIM SCUM?!?!?!?

vote cirno

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ohhhh cirno that makes a lot more sence

unvote

sorry I thought he was stright up claiming scum. still havent read full game. hard to do at school. more later

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I think Morthax is scum who is trying to hide behind the fact that he is an IC, or he is town and a terrible IC.

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^^True true
So any thoughts on my idea of mothrax hiding behind his IC status?

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I'm thinking very very similarly....

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What is it thus far that makes me scum? Dmsis I atpeast expect a case from you. You want me to believe your play has improved, show me.

I am interested in mists response to my question. In the mean time, shotty, if you think imam a terrible IC tell menwhat I can do to improve.

Moth I never called you scum did I? And if I did I'm sorry I didn't mean it. I simply mean as an IC you make it seem like you are trying to play only IC and not your role. Whether you are town hiding behind IC or scum it doesn't matter. Just remember you are a player in this game as much as you are an IC. Is this your first time IC'ing?

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I think Morthax is scum who is trying to hide behind the fact that he is an IC, or he is town and a terrible IC.

This is what I said. This implies I have no implication toward who role. If this is his first time being an IC then I see him ATM as town not scum, but if he is an experienced IC then he is scum in my eyes.

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No it wasn't I still don't have a stance on Mothrax. I need to know his prior IC experience and how he played in those if he's played other. I'm sorry I want a read on someone before I vote them or call them scum or town.

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Ok, then I have a town read on you

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What actions are scummy? And why?

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Well the storms about to hit Fort Worth Texas too, temps are going to be below freezing for the next 3 days here :\

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The self contradiction between your posts. (yes I know you explained it, doesn't mean it is the truth)

Don't worry though. You aren't my #1 or I would be voting for you.

Ok

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DRMY U LIVE IN TEXAS?? ME TOO. but i live on the border

Yes, are you Mexican? Jk what city?

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Mist is rolling trolling for sure
But he IS a n00b/VI. Not trying to justify it, but I was one once too.

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*sigh* Awesome

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That was hard core buddying by kcd

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This is true. IIoA.

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Being an attention whore doesn't make scummy actions less scummy.

P-Edit,
But I was a fellow replacement.

P-Edit again.

*sigh*

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So flay am I an SE?
Cause I've finished 59 games here
and I'm in 2

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UNVOTE Vote: Shotty

. I'm still going to keep a close watch on Cirno, but shotty apparently has played 59 games, but couldn't remember he said Mothrax was scum. Right.

Well if you read the thread dummy I didn't say he was scum!

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EXACTLY! LOOK AT THE WORD OR! He is a first time IC.

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I thought Cirno claimed scum out of anger. That is all

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The blizards no exucse unless you have satelite interwebs.

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Kcd less scummy fluffy stuff plz!

vote Kcdaspot

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Yes the do need to post more, but you need to active lurk less

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A subset of lurking is the so-called "active lurking", where a player posts in the thread but without making any contribution to the progress of the game. Their posts may be minimal in length, off-topic, or merely parroting what other players have already said.

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So far my only reads are Kcdaspot as scum; Monthrax as adapting IC; and Hoopster as dumb, yet learning noobie.

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^^^ that confirmed your vote as a thinly veiled OMGUS.

honestly though mist and Crackhead REALLY needs to post more.

Not out all. I don't know what you think OMGUS is, but thats not it.

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Hoppster I don't think you are dumb, I just think you are in the dumb newbie stage of mafia.

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Cirno nice AtE/Insults/Hating on newbies/Getting personal/Breaking rule 11. Seriously you are an SE, act like one, being rude to try to get other to mis lynch a newbie is messed up. Not saying you want to lynch Crack Head, but it seems like you may. Any way all in all you look a hell of a lot scummier in my eyes now.

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Will everyone please list there top two suspects with reasoning? I will even start.

1)Mist: Vote hopping, trying to blatantly buddy.

2)DMSIS: discrediting the IC, pushing a suspect with no vote or reasoning.

I wasn't discrediting you at all, I was simply trying to understand. A lot of first time ICs have a hard time trying to keep their IC and player hats separate. The trick is to get them to work together.

Also Mothrax I would like to see a little more of your player hat being worn.

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Cirno that was the same post don't break it up, that is misrepping me and once again scummy.

And like I said I'm not saying that, my point is that if all of a suden you push for his lynch it's going to piss me off and I will push like hell for your lynch.

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Because it is typical scum to get mad at a person and then use that as a reason to vote, and then sheep townies into doing the same.

And don't break them up and put them out of order to make a point, because if I had written it in that order the point would be obvious.

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^More active lurking.

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Moth

I wasn't calling you scum, I was saying if you were an experienced IC then your actions would be very scummy.

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The timing of the vote doesn't matter it is the reason for the vote. Your vote had no, and has no reasons, my vote on you though has lots of reason that I've already stated. I'm starting to feel a Kcdaspot/Cirno scum team.

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Together you guys don't really have a connection yet, but apart you two are the most scummy looking. Kcdaspot for the reasons I've pointed out, and you lesser for the reason Mist has pointed out.

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Kcd taunting hoppster into voting you doesn't help you case.

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it seemed very taunty to me, you said him fos'ing didnt mean any thing and that voting was what meant something. thus taunting him.

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? I'm not going to be banned... why would I?

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also: flay have you considered adding to the hall of shame there in your last link?

fluff/active lurking

also @kcd: we may but heads later... I love walls.

don't make them giant, and keep it simple and we're good... answering Q's next.

This is scummy. First off he tells a player how to play... don't do that. Also only scum have a motive for not having large post. They don't want as much discussion that way they can quick lynch people and sheep others.

This is what is known on this site as Random Voting Stage (RVS for short). It can yield a lot of information later in the game with voting analysis, connections between players etc. Lots of different methods can be used to vote randomly, including random.org, dice, or the first name that pops into your head.

also, random.org is generally frowned upon by some regulars so use at your own discretion.

fluff/active lurking

*ahem*

GOOOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "WHOSE VOTE IS IT ANYWAY?"!!!

The show where the cases are made up and the votes don't matter, that's right, they are just like your new year's resolution NOW... don't mean a thing.

fluff/active lurking

effing casuals.

fluff/active lurking

yeah thats a good club ill join

fluff/active lurking

hello new replacements! answer those RQS's and comment on the wagon!

buddying

mist: post more constantly you have flip-flopped twice. do this more and I may see you as scummy.

Cirno's ISO

Push moth wagon
Push moth wagon
Push moth wagon
Push moth wagon
Push moth wagon
fluff
fluff
fluff
"mist is scum"

This is a quality game of mafia. /sarcasm

Misrepping/sarcasm

HwaG, and swampthing: POST MORE

tyler: scum reads go.

Hypocrite/fluff

VOTE: hoppster

I have never seen a fluffier ISO for page 4-5

He obviously didn't look at his own.

annnnnd i should be caught up?

mist: i'm forgiving youe hectic play style for now but please read the thread and have a good reason for voting in the future. You'll help us out alot.

This post is pointless again fluf/active lurking

ah forgot about shotty:

do you truly think moth is scum? and who is his buddy?

PEDIT:

You did. posting link to post soon

I really wish he would explain his thogts more than asking others theirs. He is scum floating by on nothing.

hoppster and shotty are scum.

hopps for fluff

shotty for that last post.

"Moth is scummy"

"I didn't mean to call you scummy"

buddy IC much?

PEDIT: Don't you try to justify it man. that was a scummy play and you know it!

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Shotty

This makes no sense. He blatently calls two people scum and gives no real reasons. And his one decent reason is hypocritical.

:/ damn idiots.

hello Crackhead! be sure to reread and give us your thoughts!

HYPOCRITE! FLUFF/ACTIVE LURKING

well hey if your a newb and you replace in and all you got was ignored how would you feel?

Fluff/active lurking/AtE

All hopps has done is just agree with everyone.

And Kcdaspot has done nothing

KCdaspot is using the blizzard as an excuse not to post. Keeping my vote where it is.

I had honestly thought that this being the "storm of the year" that my power would get knocked out so I planned for it... I got hella lucky.


also, It hailed before it sleeted and snowed here. mfw hell in a handbasket.

Fluff/Active lurking/pointless posting

CrackHead, mist:

More posting plz..

Kcdaspot post content!

^^^ that confirmed your vote as a thinly veiled OMGUS.

honestly though mist and Crackhead REALLY needs to post more.

mis rep

FoS's mean nothing. votes are actions. actions speak louder than words.

That do it?

Taunt


Ok so Kdcaspothas 52 post and 43 of them are fluff

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I drunk posted stuff about jews... that's why I may get banned

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I could have writen a lot more.

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kdcaspot, my main case on you is that you blatently call people scum with no reasoning and the sctive lurk your way threw the rest of the game.

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kdcaspot I have a lot to say to you sir first off your posts are all empty, second you are a hypocrite, third you just totaly OMGUS'd ME. I know you already voted me but you never gave a REAL or half way good reason, and now all of your reasons are simply because you disagree with my case on you. Nothing about my case is scummy, it just pisses you of that I'm right so you raged and called me scumZ fourth the second posting was not necisary, fifth I did not call you dumb I was saying you need to post less fluff and more content. Sixth SE is not something you have to apply for or be a good one of. You are in no way a teaching role in this game only the IC is you are an SE because you played two games. Seventh, your rebuttles to my case are nothing more than "nu uh!!!!". I will finish this tomorrow when I'm not in bed on my phone.

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Spoiler: My Rebuke

fluff/active lurking

We were in RVS, No one had posted then

The RVS should still be about mafia, at the best here you were anti town.

This is scummy. First off he tells a player how to play... don't do that. Also only scum have a motive for not having large post. They don't want as much discussion that way they can quick lynch people and sheep others.

Posting giant walls can be scummy too. I just wanted to keep play active for me and newbs. again, I didn't come here to read books, I came to play.

Mafia is a text based RPG the point of it is to read and then respond. So far you have simply posted fluff. 1/5th of the posts in the game are you and there are 9 people. Also your play is not going to be active if all you do is post fluff, this argument we are having is the first productive thing you have done.

fluff/active lurking

new IC, I noticed this was frowned upon by others so I let people know, also RVS.

He may be a new IC, but he's played plenty of his own games with RVS's in them. And I have never heard of that being frowned upon, in fact that is the site I was told to use to generate what players got which roles in my game.

fluff/active lurking

RVS

Yes it may have been RVS, but it was so anti-town, cases do mean something and votes should be very well thought out.

fluff/active lurking

Okay I had no good reason posting that yeah

Nuf said.

fluff/active lurking

during cirno's pushing for moth lynch, RVS

No! This was you saying I want a smoothy!!!!

buddying

It's called being a good SE

No SE are not teaching roles, you didn't earn being an SE you are one be default, you can't be anything else.This was down right buddying.

Misrepping/sarcasm

That's what I saw so I posted it

It was pointless and wrong... so ya stop.

Hypocrite/fluff

Hypocrite?

You know what, no not hypocrite just dumb. Don't tell people to give their scum reads when you have not explained yours. Don't tell others to post more when your posts are full of shit.

He obviously didn't look at his own.

you obviously don't know how to read a ISO

Yes I've read your ISO twice and it is the fluffiest of any ones here, that sir is being a hypocrite.

This post is pointless again fluf/active lurking

Not pointless, helping a newb

No it was pointless, and hypocritical, you, especially at that point, had NO GOOD REASON FOR ANY OF YOUR VOTES! and it was fluff.

I really wish he would explain his thogts more than asking others theirs. He is scum floating by on nothing.

asking questions for info. You act on info. Pro town move.

Even here you dodge my accusation. Dodging is a scum move. You have not acting on any of the answers you have received.

This makes no sense. He blatently calls two people scum and gives no real reasons. And his one decent reason is hypocritical.

I gave reasons. READ MORE.

Dude I quoted your voting post I read it. You call hopp scum for fluff, that is your only decent reason and it is the most hypocritical thing you've said yet.

HYPOCRITE! FLUFF/ACTIVE LURKING

HOW IN THE HELL AM I BEING A HYPOCRITE? ARE YOU TRYING TO CALL ME STUPID?

No just an idiot... actually that was referring to you saying give us your thoughts, something you do some what, but without reason and when you do give a reason it always lacks explanation.

Fluff/active lurking/AtE

It's a game. it's supposed to be FUN. These are newbs. Would you feel better if everyone gave them the cold shoulder?

Yes it is supposed to be fun, but it is not here so you can buddy with people that is scummy. No they shouldn't get the cold shoulder, but buddying and acknowledging is completely different. And once again this is AtE, or appeal to emotion, you are trying to establish your ethos so people will think of you as a good person, and hopefully not scummy, but scummy is scummy whether you are a good person or not.

mis rep

Voting for me after me voting you. Really?

No saying I OMGUS'd you that was a mis rep. I didn't OMGUS you I has reason, if any thing you OMGUS'd me due to the fact that you didn't give any sort of reason for my vote until after I voted you and then your only reason was because I voted you.

Bolded is me.

shotty is scum.

End of story.

So once again your only reasons for me being scum are that I called you scum and posted a case on you... that is OMGUS! You are scum.

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How many times do I have to explain that? I wasn't going back on what I said.

Yes his posts are fluff because the contribute nothing to finding scum. Meta me if you may, my cases are always like that no matter what. And he's the hypocrite.

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I have some fluss yes, but 95% of what I post isn't fluff.
Maybe like 15%

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I think 3

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Oh crap I forgot about tyler... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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I was thinking hopp, I had most of my reads setting into place, but I forgot about him.

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Hey nopoint, I like the new Avitar

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ummmm... so Mist role fished like hell when he asked me to claim... I'm thinking about voting him.

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unvote vote mist

that last post was just to scummy.(the role fishing one)

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maybe... well even if not you just gave him that excuse

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Kdcaspot is still the scummiest person in my opinion, but I didn't want to go into day two with no reads on any one else. Kdcaspots new attack on the next person calling him scum only reassures me of his scumminess. I am willing to switch votes again, but I want to see how mist reacts under pressure before day one is over.

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unvote
vote kdcaspot

Kcdaspot... you are scum

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Post 338 + all the past things I've said.

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claim?

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Hoppster may be willing to hammer IDK and he's anoob so he may not think to ask for a claim, I know you told him he may want to, but still

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....true, but that's not 100% for sure. I just want to make sure there is no excuse for a quick hammer

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claim?

WAS MY LAST POST FLUFF?


Not even gonna claim w/o a willing hammer.

No more like flailing

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Mothrax come back! For reals 1 post in 6 days... bad IC

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It's fine, but that doesn't take the AtE out of your last post.

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Honestly I think you are scum. But also from experience a VT lynch day 1 isn't that bad, yes mafia is better, but still we haven't outed any PRs.

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No scum will claim any thing but VT day 1

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cirno I do make sense. Any way he's at L-1 he's scummy and he's claimed vt... ======[]?

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We are basically talking in twilight right now and giving scum more info than needed.

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He's our best lynch. End of story. ====[] Pl0x

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Now every one shut up and wait for the flip

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Tehehe Cirno I <3 you some times.

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Cirno you don't look to good right now.

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so Mothrax by elimination?

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@Cirno I think one person on the wagon is scumz.
@Mist- wow...

vote mist

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@

Shotty

:I want to know why you think I "don't look too good" because of either flip. Also, it is your belief that everyone on the KC wagon is town except Mist?

Because of the all ready stated reasons. Your starting of the wagon, and then hopping off of it. And no I think mist may be scum, but Crack head looks bad to,,, but I think I may just hate his play style. Also you are the off wagon scum.

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Cirno mislynches happen. Seriously we have to move on or else we will go no where. Also that's a blatant lie. He's not shrugging it off he did a VC analysis. Scummy lies are scummy.

unvote vote cirno

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He analyzed all vote counts leading up to the KC lynch that is not shrugging it off. And I'm nit and didn't say that mislynches are ok, but they happen and dwelling on them helps no one. Now you have succefully mis repped me too. Go you Mr. Scum.

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it HAS been examined and when it was examined it made you look scummy. The fact is you don't like that becuase you ARE scum. So now you want the town to dwell on the mislynch so you can weasle your way out of it. Examining it did a lot of good. It found scum. You.

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SO you mean you are going to twist your examination in your favour?

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I see Cirno as scum for reasons already stated, I would like to see a lot more votes going that way.
Also why is Mothrax scum at all? I just can't see it.
Mothrax seemed to have been busy earlier on in this game, and that is all cool because to be completely honest
The only thing that is slightly scummy is his weird disappearances .
He really isn't scummy at all, so we should stop thinking about it. Todays lynch is between Mist and CIRNO!
Everyone who is not voting either one of them is wasting their time, and is being detrimental to town. There is no Dang way one of them isn't scum.
Of course they could just both REALLY REALLY suck at mafia, but I find that highly unlikely. There are many
Countless reasons that Cirno is a better lynch, but the best is that I can't see them both as scum, and mist seems more trolling than Cirno does, so I really think he may just be a VI.

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Deal Cirno.

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My examination of the KC wagon remains scheduled later in the week. If I somehow get lynched before then, lynch Shotty Day 3 to insure I win the bet.

So... do it for the lulz?

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I meant the last part.

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I've had very good logic. Cirno you are scum any way.

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Example 1A. An artist interpretation of Cirno endlessly drawing him self.

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@Moth Scum newbies or scum anythings?

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ok hold on, I'm going to bed soon, but I'll get the meta up here real quick.

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The following is a list of all of my scum games. In order from newest to oldest based on their ending dates.
Open 273(4 pages long)
Open 250(I hate pie)
Open 262(Gand's Hard Boiled Game)
Open 243(Moth was in this one )
Open 257(SCIENCE!)
Open 255(Double Cop)
NFL mafia (Mini Theme)
Newbie 992
Ghost Buster Mafia........
DNA Mafia..
Open 240(MAYHEM!)
Mini 1015(Lasted FOREVER!)
Newbie 955
Newbie 984
Newbie 979
Popularity Mafia(Mini 1009)
Newbie 981(My first Game(I heart KittyMo))

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yes you died best thing that happened for the mafia.

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yes I suck as scum but ussually have really good team mates. And I think it was 5 days irl

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also popularity mafia isn't something good to meta me off of, becuase I barely ever flake and I flaked that game because I couldn't get into it just fyi. And thanks nopoint for saving that slot. /off topic

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OMG half the people in this game may be one of the scumz!^^

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tomorrow

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Cirno all your mega post on me is IIoA

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Where to start. Shotty makes a lot of posts but not alot of them make any logical sense.

IIoA

He consistingly makes statements as if they were absolute fact when in reality they are pure fallacy. He attacks Kcdaspot 'posting fluff while calling others out for doing so'.

IIoA

Problem with this, Shotty spent Day 1 doing exactly the same thing. Shotty made a large post quoting many of Kcdaspot's post, and labeled many of them fluff. In KC's response to the post, he argued that some of those posts were not fluff.

IIoA

This somehow became further evidence against KC (for both Shotty and Mothrax) even though there was essentially no other way to respond to the accusations other than 'No it's not'.

IIoA

On Day 1, Shotty pushed the KC wagon as hard as he could, repeatedly asking for hammers. On Day 2, Shotty makes one comment on the wagon he led ("I think one person on the wagon is scumz"), refuses to examine it any further, and urges everyone else to do the same.

IIoA

He makes the comment 'Cirno you don't look too good right now' and when I ask him why, he doesn't respond until Moth voices his suspicions against me, at which point Shotty says "Because of the already stated reasons" and echos Moth.

IIoA

He also defends Moth (with his usual nonsensical arguments) from my attack and goes on to say that Moth isn't scummy at all, two events that could point to a connection between Moth and Shotty.

IIoA

All you said is what happened. No analysis was done.

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You stated what I did not why it's scummy.

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And why and how are any of those things scummy?

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Because it is wagon starting and then distancing. Also it allows you to make this exact arguement right now.

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^^That would suck, but I still think you are scum... or CH... or Mist...

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No point I see Moth as my one very strong town read. I will not sheep you on this one.
Saying someone is not scum due to the work they put into a game is dumb. If anything he is scum for having to work so hard. Town just think and post. Mafia have to fake a train of thought.

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or he was gambitting

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So hoppster cirno anyone?

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For once I agree with mist, he refuses to claim just kill him and stop giving the mafia more info.

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Combine 1 2 3 4 5!

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So mist and/or moth are scum. There is no way that one of them isn't.
The fact that Cirno flipped town troubles me, I was very confident in her being scum...

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I didn't mean them in any order but I have a hunch they are both scum. Moth's hammer seemed like self preservation and that is never pro town. I don't want to vote yet but I am willing to. First I want to hear from moth. Because until the end of yesterday I had a pretty big town read on him but that was all counting on cirno flipping scum.

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vote moth

I can't see him not being scum.

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That's why I wanted to kill him. One he didn't like me and I could tell he was suspicious of me... yet he was reserved and never pushed to hard. He very much gave me the cop feeling and I was very sure he was looking into me.

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It was way to easy to sheep you guys

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I know

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I suck ass. I'm quitting mafia

QFT

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Mist I love you though...

[drmyshottyizsik]

I just turned 17... and Gand isn't far into his 14th year...

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YAY!