Dropping my town read down to a could-go-either-way read (null).
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like i say, I don't see the point in defending myself 5 pages in but to keep you guys happy, I'll say that scum would never be as active as me, I wasn't rolefishing, and my pro-townness outweighs my anti-towness
That's as far as I'll go on defending myself for now. I don't have time to talk about the only confirmed townie I know of in the game (me), when there are 12 other players who could be scum for all I know.
@Vezok: true, but I scumhunt better than i defend, and that's what I prefer to do 5 pages into the game. Defending myself at this point is just silly and only scum usually want to waste time by getting players to do this.1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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@TS
This. There is no reason for you not t defend yourself. You are just using a lame excuse.vezo wrote:You can scum hunt and defend yourself.
Also, you said you wanted to question vezo. So... why aren't you asking questions?
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It's 5 pages in, day 2. Come page 8/9 I'll happily defend myself.
Not sure why you want me to defend myself so much. Why do you care if I defend myself well or not, especially if I'm a null read.
Vezok? She posted this
After that my questions were answered.vezokpiraka wrote:Oh. I see. I thought everyone had that thing and all the townies would have known why I was asking the question. Turns out I was wrong.1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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Re-reading the whole threat~~~
Isn't that what you're doing?ts wrote:hoppster is acting all suspiciousy. He's accused me of rolefishing. It's hard to beat Vezok at that though.
anyways, It looks like hoppster might know too much for VT too.
It just seems you're desperately trying to divert the attention to the source of all attention to you by nickpicking (or is it called strawmanning here?)ts wrote:
RQS ended hoppster, keep upHoppster wrote:
Sorttttt of.Kalofer wrote:
Also, where are you from crazy
Twisted and Hopper do you like anime?
Where?mb wrote:Hoppster is trying very hard to sound town.
Still trying very hard to nickpick things to accuse him ofts wrote:and you still look like you're trying too hard to look both town, dictate play and defend vezok
Caps lock doesn't strengthen your argument either
anyways, I'm not interested in tunneling on hoppster as he is on me.
Are you going to be angry when i tell you i accuse you of rolefishing too? I mean, you do it like a proper mafia - not blunt out but you seem to be generally very very interested in ''who is more than a VT''ts wrote:
Backpeddling? Lets' see, you accused me of rolefishing over vezok, themaster of the art, andhp wrote:Hoppster wrote:
I'm not trying to defending Vezok.
Im taking a guess you are either gouging reactions or being very anti town with which so far i am not sure what to think of youZyr wrote:Anyway, everybody lynch TS now, it's already taken too long.
In the same goddamn post you say that scum are probably under the radar and then you go out saying that Hoppster is scum, contradiction in one post.ts wrote:moar buddying
trying to make allies are we?
anyways, scum will have likely gone unnoticed so far, under the radar as it will
Hoppster is merely trying to make a name for himself as a scumhunter. Apparently the end justifies the means to him, no matter how anti-town they may be. coughsheepingbuddyingstrawmanningdefendingquestiondodgingetc.cough
Some of that stuff about Hoppster we're already explained, and proven how much they wouldn't make sense. Restate the reasons you are voting Hoppster
You're obviously wrong since numerous players already did (including myself)Toasty wrote:Somehow I feel that only scum would notice this.TS wrote:@Toasty: glad to see someone isn't basing their reads off of one pretty post. +1 townie point/facepalm/ You were JUST accusing Hoppster of doing the same thing (buddying, which is what Toasty was pointing out) in nearly the same manner...
Ops, Hoppster mentioned ^ that himself in the next post... damn
True enough, let's think about this in the next day though.STeals wrote:Also, although I don't really like to go too much into closed game mechanics at such an early stage, but has anyone noticed that there were 2 kills pre-game (even though they aren't actually players). I don't know general mafia team setups for mini-themes (2 mafia, or 1 large(r) mafia), but since there were 2 kills, it already suggests something...
So wait, if that's what you think, why are you still voting for him? I mean if you pressure voted him, by presuming that ''real'' scum are lurking you are making your vote quite pointlessTs wrote:reading this page you guys seem to want me to destroy the cases against me.
But flailing and defending myself is scummish.
Scumhunting is the best defence and hopefully I'll move onto hat soon.
Oh, and i've seen a pattern that scum are always going after the most active players in my games.
Curse my high posting rate.
anyways, I expect the real scum to be lurking so far, and will try and comment on this when more people get to posting
+1Zyr wrote:
@mb & TS: You're already doing this, the only thing using logic would do is make your case look competent... I can't really see a downside there.ts wrote:Twistedspoon wrote:
But flailing and defending myself is scummish.
Scum would want you to waste time by defending youself? Bs. Scum would want all the attention diverted at someone who can't defend themselves (which is what happening to you right now ;D). Bad logicTS wrote:shrug
how can I scumhunt when I'm defending myself.
Anyways, scum would want me to defend myself; it distracts me from scumhunting.
Opinion on TS's self called ''defense''TS wrote:like i say, I don't see the point in defending myself 5 pages in but to keep you guys happy, I'll say that scum would never be as active as me, I wasn't rolefishing, and my pro-townness outweighs my anti-towness
That's as far as I'll go on defending myself for now. I don't have time to talk about the only confirmed townie I know of in the game (me), when there are 12 other players who could be scum for all I know.
@Vezok: true, but I scumhunt better than i defend, and that's what I prefer to do 5 pages into the game. Defending myself at this point is just silly and only scum usually want to waste time by getting players to do this.
1) From experience: Yes, yes they would, maybe it's not as likely to see a scum active poster than a town active poster but the possibility isn't that far off
2)A few people pointed out just ''how'' you were rolefishing. How about you counter those points with what we're your intentions at given points of time.
3) Who are you to judge yourself? Besides wouldn't only scum measure how ''pro town'' they are?
4)Yes, yes you do, and that's exactly why. You are the only one who knows if you're town
5)Not true and look at 3)
If you provide a good enough defense maybe then you can finally stop being that much of an attention hoTS wrote:It's 5 pages in, day 2. Come page 8/9 I'll happily defend myself.
Not sure why you want me to defend myself so much. Why do you care if I defend myself well or not, especially if I'm a null read.
UNVOTE: VOTE: TwistedSpoon
You all should know why.
@Amrun: How about scumhunting?
@Everyone who has 1-5 posts: Join in, don't be shy, there's CANDY~~~ (Sorry Kalofer, i AM a hypocrite)
Ah, i have a slight town read on Hoppster and nearly (if not all) arguments used against him we're bs ;Capitalism, ho-
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wagoning noted
encouraging someone to post less seems anti-town.Morthas wrote: If you provide a good enough defense maybe then you can finally stop being that much of an attention ho
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regarding my comment to tasty, i was contrasting how hoppster buddys to how I point out a pro-town action of a player.
Hoppster said
I saidHoppster wrote:Zyrc, I love you.
I posted the toasty comment to show hoppster what he should be doing. Hoppster's 'zyrc i love you' helps the town in no-way, but mine encourages pro-town actionsTwistedspoon wrote: @Toasty: glad to see someone isn't basing their reads off of one pretty post. +1 townie point
see the difference yet?
i may die but that doesn't stop my win condition. Killing scum helps me get there, and that's what I need to do to win, not stay alive. This is why defending myself isn't my top priority, especially 5 pages in1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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seriously, how can you tar
andHoppster wrote:Zyrc, I love you.
with the same brush?Twistedspoon wrote: @Toasty: glad to see someone isn't basing their reads off of one pretty post. +1 townie point
One of them is buddying. Have a guess which one1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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Taken from the http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Buddying_UpTwistedspoon wrote:seriously, how can you tar
andHoppster wrote:Zyrc, I love you.
with the same brush?Twistedspoon wrote: @Toasty: glad to see someone isn't basing their reads off of one pretty post. +1 townie point
One of them is buddying. Have a guess which one
Both buddying, yours is a little more subtleMafiaWiki wrote:Typically the Mafia member will try to be friendly in some way, either outright or, more often, subtly.Capitalism, ho-
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LOL. Twisted spoon is so scummy.
I don't have a complete grasp of the game so fat mb. I have twistedspoon as scum. Amrun as scum. Some neutral. And you as town. I may have missed some but it's hard to give reads on page 5.
Also: I AM MALE. Stop calling me she.
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and guess which one of those the mafia use.
anyways, I've already said why mine wasn't buddying.
Even I'm not stupid enough to buddy after telling hoppster off for it
Ninja'd: Vezok posted. anyways, looks like Vezok is riding the wagon here1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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Get a complete grasp already ;D. By ''you'' you are referring to?vezokpiraka wrote:LOL. Twisted spoon is so scummy.
I don't have a complete grasp of the game so fat mb. I have twistedspoon as scum. Amrun as scum. Some neutral. And you as town. I may have missed some but it's hard to give reads on page 5.
Also: I AM MALE. Stop calling me she.
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He's refering to MB, reread the sentance, it's kinda subtle, but it's the only logical conclusion.
This is AtE... it's suprisingly effective on me, but when I notice it, it pissed me off even more, if you happen to be town TS, you're really really bad at it.....TS wrote:Whaaa, whaa, you're picking on me for talking too much!-
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Zyrc, editing quotes or misquoting is really scummy
Also, answering questions directed at other players is scummy too. It was addressed to vezok, not you.
And, I don't think you know enough about me to judge me as a player.1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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and talk about wagoning.
Is no-one here going to talk about any other suspects, or are we going to let the mafia lurk and walk free?
Pro-lurking tunnelers you guys are.1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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?vezokpiraka wrote: We aren't letting lurkers get a free pass. You are scummier than most lurkers. You are the lynch for today.
and you know how scummy the lurkers are?
scum could have said next to nothing yet, enjoying the fact that you're onto me.
anyways, since when did 5 people decide today's lynch?1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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If i was scum I'd bea lotless active and be defending myselfa lotmore.
How can i scumhunt when you guys are at my necks?
Once you stop tunneling, you'll see which direction we need to head in.1 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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Morthas wrote:
Um, no.Twistedspoon wrote:Zyrc, editing quotes or misquoting is really scummy
Also, answering questions directed at other players is scummy too. It was addressed to vezok, not you.
And, I don't think you know enough about me to judge me as a player.
This is scummy. Morthas moved to my scum list now. i love it when scum get to cocky and think they can say anything to the suspect.Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.-
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well, i guess I could, but when I try and do both I end up doing neither very well.vezokpiraka wrote:Why can't you defend and scum hunt at the same time?
playstyle I guess.
I also find it a bit early for me to defend, 2 days into day 11 Thessalonians 5:21: Test everything, but hold fast onto what is good
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