Quote number 1:
I think the answer to your first question is this: so that a person can latch onto that (in this case hopp) and from the miracle of the science of collision theory a series of serious posts based on more or less nothing can spring up, with player A (TS) and player B (hopp) clawing at each others throats (later to be joined by more players) and officially begin the game. From this big bang springs the universe of the mafia game and here we are now. (Call it Kalofer's creation theory, also if you don't know what collision theory is don't worry about it, this paragraph is mainly reasonless anyway).Twistedspoon wrote:if we're going to go into the psycology of smilies then yes, you could say I usually dissaprove of vote switching in RVS . You RVS for pressure - why would you destroy reasonless pressure on one person to push reasonless pressure on another?
anyone want to go RQS?
In questioning your question I would like to ask if it's all reasonless, why did you make a big deal out of it? Furthermore, why such a negative view of RVS, why is it about pressure, and if you think so then why do you make it seem with that post like you're under pressure? To me ,RVS is the most fun part of the game, but then the boring old creation mechanic has to occur.
Quote number 2:
vezokpiraka wrote:I have enough reasons to believe that when town has a special mechanic and they don't use they end up losing.
For example: Mafia on Holy Orders. The town didn't bother too much with the mechanic and they ended up losing the game.
I game I played on another site: There was a mechanic that allowed people to connect to other people. Town was afraid that scum might do stuff to them if they connect and didn't try to connect to much. They ended up losing.
That's why I think mechanics should be exploited because it favors the town more than the scum.
Those are two examples you gave us with little elaboration, you don't know if that mechanic is biased in favour of scum or town, or do YOU? and are you trying to pass it off as a pro town thing to acheive your goals? Makes me suspicious.
Quote number 3:
Me no likey this, especially when coupled with one of your latest posts, where if I'm not mistaken you claim you don't know anything about the game (I'll come to that too just you wait)vezokpiraka wrote:And I found a way to break the game open.
Do evil people want to know your goodies? Y/N
Just answer and say nothing more. Everyone has to do this.
Quote number 4:
Can you please tell everyone where he is going with this or if not then keep your mouth shut and let him go on with it if you DO know and not tease us by saying you know where, but not telling us, that's scummy at least in my view it is. I want an answer.mb53 wrote:I was going to vote vezo for suggesting a mass claim, but then I saw thisYes. I see where you are going with this.vezokpiraka wrote:And I found a way to break the game open.
Do evil people want to know your goodies? Y/N
Just answer and say nothing more. Everyone has to do this.
Vote: Morthas, for basing his answer off of the example role PM, instead of his own (because he didn't get a town PM of his own.)
Quote number 5:
I completely disagree here, hoppster made a valid point concerning you, yet I do not believe that particular point of his carries weight into making you look like scum and I don't like how you try to make it look as if everything hopp says is scummy, COS IT'S NOT, and that's why you are in the situation you are now. And furthermore your last point refers to the game mechanic and IMO as I stated before it is WIFOM to me and I will not comment on it. Yet I will comment that if you don't put your act together and think a bit more before you post you will get my vote simply because your irresponsibility is annoying me, while I do understand that you may have personal probs with hopp, it is not excuse to accuse him of being scum for the littlest things, or if it is going to be an excuse it's only going to be a good excuse if you support it with more argument/evidence/whatever.Twistedspoon wrote:I assume mafia would want to know our ingredients. That's why we have a closed setup, no?
therefore it's bad that vezok suggested a mass claim
hoppster is acting all suspiciousy. He's accused me of rolefishing. It's hard to beat Vezok at that though.
anyways, It looks like hoppster might know too much for VT too.
Quote number 6:
Why is he trying so hard to sound town town to you? His points make sense enough to me and don't seem anti town in any way, please expand your argument sil vous plait. And as far as I'm concerned at least he's trying, you're not as far as I can tell.mb53 wrote:Hoppster is trying very hard to sound town.
FoS
What consequence is there to answer whether bad guys want your goodies or not?
Quote 7:
Oh I'm sorry did you explain where vezok's question is going? Hypocrite.mb53 wrote:Twistedspoon seems town to me >_>
Hoppster: Seriously. You can't just go around saying "AH BLAH BLAH ANSWERING THAT QUESTION IS SUPER SCUMMY, DON'T DO IT" and not explain WHY it is bad.
Quote 8:
starting to piss me off now.mb53 wrote:
You guys still aren't saying why it is bad to answer...see no harm in it.I
Quotes 9 + 10:
ToastyToast wrote:I think Zyrconium's last statement puts more evidence against him.mb53 wrote:Hoppster and Zyrconium= Scum buddies tunneling on someone (who isn't scummy)
Unvote, Vote: Hoppster
Right, because it hasn't even been a day since the game has started.Zyrconium wrote:Anyway, everybody lynch TS now, it's already taken too long.
Unvote: Vote: Zycronium
OMG REALLY? Zyrc was only joking, I'm pretty sure he didn't mean it and that single statement is not enough to be lynched for a day, if your votes are serious though, can you at least say something more about why zerc is scummy.mb53 wrote:unvote, vote: Zycronium
Both scum, it does't matter who is lynched first.
Quote 11:
I'm answering that now actually.mb53 wrote:Who do you think is scum kalofer?
Quote 12:
This post tells me you're either hiding more stupidity or intelligence than you're showing, and you better show what you're hiding quick, my patience is running out.mb53 wrote:I think both of you are town.
Need some in-actives in here. Pretty please? =)
Quote 13:
oh non mon ami, i belyv iz yu hu iz, hau yu se, driven by la rage, and I would like you to correct me if I'm wrong THIS INSTANT.Twistedspoon wrote:my vote is for pressure btw
It's working. You're driven by rage and no pro-town motivation whatsoever anymore.
once you had a small town read and now it's back to tunneling whilst hiding behind it and declaring your love for players who had a town read on you.
infuriating.
I'm only still here today because I want to ask vezok some more questions.
Quote 14:
Please participate more and then vote please, I hate it when people come in out of the blue, make only one valid point (ok it's valid but it's still only 1) and then disappear and if their votee is lynched it's like they never existed and are ignored as being on the bandwagon.Hazard with a Glove wrote:Jesus. $ pages in only a few hours?
Anyway
How is it not obvious that Twisted is Scum? At this point, his only defense against Hoppster is "OMG TUNNEL TUNNEL TUNEL COZ U SAID THAT U LUV ZYRC"
Vote: Twisted
And, I'm pretty sure mb is his scum buddy. He's probably backing off now that Twisted is getting himself into some serious shit.
Quote 15:
oh really, and what does it suggest? Either make those suggestions now, expand your view or stfu cos I see it as being nothing more than flavour, and don't you mention this again unless you actually got something important to say.Stels wrote:Also, although I don't really like to go too much into closed game mechanics at such an early stage, but has anyone noticed that there were 2 kills pre-game (even though they aren't actually players). I don't know general mafia team setups for mini-themes (2 mafia, or 1 large(r) mafia), but since there were 2 kills, it already suggests something...
Quote 16:
I knorite? scum hate people making fools of themselves and barely doing anything, they despise those people the most don't they, I mean they absolutely deteste them do they not, don't you agree that they are sickened by those people, furthermore don't you believe this paragraph of mine is saturated with sarcasm? EVERYONE MUST ANSWER Y/N NOW GOD DAMMIT!!!!Twistedspoon wrote:reading this page you guys seem to want me to destroy the cases against me.
But flailing and defending myself is scummish.
Scumhunting is the best defence and hopefully I'll move onto hat soon.
Oh, and i've seen a pattern that scum are always going after the most active players in my games.
Curse my high posting rate.
anyways, I expect the real scum to be lurking so far, and will try and comment on this when more people get to posting
Quote 17:
Well thanks for the wild goose chase/green caviar hunt, what are you planning on doing now that your brilliant scheme got burnt down and you tell us so much time after?vezokpiraka wrote:Oh. I see. I thought everyone had that thing and all the townies would have known why I was asking the question. Turns out I was wrong.
In this case I don't want a mass claim anymore and I don't want that question answered.
Quote 18"
Well did you really now?, good job on basing so much suspicion and some votes if I'm not mistaken about something that's been proven to be wrong now, great job.mb53 wrote:Well, I saw what you saw vezo.
Who do you think is scum?
Please join us lurkers
I keep wanting to call out lurkers, then realize that its only been 1 day, so its not really considered lurking :3
Quote 19:
You've so far been focusing mainly on one person with the reason (I'm guessing) being that he pwnd you in a previous game and have THE NERVE to announce how town you've been after filling the thread with so many posts 80% of which are more or less useless?!?!?!?! I feel offended.Twistedspoon wrote:like i say, I don't see the point in defending myself 5 pages in but to keep you guys happy, I'll say that scum would never be as active as me, I wasn't rolefishing, and my pro-townness outweighs my anti-towness
That's as far as I'll go on defending myself for now. I don't have time to talk about the only confirmed townie I know of in the game (me), when there are 12 other players who could be scum for all I know.
@Vezok: true, but I scumhunt better than i defend, and that's what I prefer to do 5 pages into the game. Defending myself at this point is just silly and only scum usually want to waste time by getting players to do this.
THE HELL you better start defending and explaining myself before I personally hang you for pure annoyance, frankly I'm starting to care less and less if you're scum right now and I don't care how scummy that makes me sound. I don't give a damn how scummy it is to defend yourself it's not like you're being particularly useful scumhunting anyone except hopp and anyone who slightly agrees with him anyway.
Quote 20
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, now you're not scumhunting simply because we're "at your necks" just after you said you'd much rather be scumhunting than defending yourself and...wait a minute...when did you ever scumhunt? Seriously, is your little brother sabotaging your account or are you doing this on purpose?Twistedspoon wrote:If i was scum I'd bea lotless active and be defending myselfa lotmore.
How can i scumhunt when you guys are at my necks?
Once you stop tunneling, you'll see which direction we need to head in.
Please, TwistedSpoon, redeem yourself, you can win back your honour, please just do something...rational, you'll get my support at least, but just stop whatever it is you are doing now PLEASE.
I will give conclusions when what I consider to be my most important questions in this post are answered, until then
VOTE: TwistedSpoon
since despite everything, I simply cannot resist.
MB and vez, you're next.