Mini 1144 - AW: Mafia Strikes

[bv310]

It actually did work last time. The one guy tried to claim Sasha from the Blue Alliance or smth like that when his buddy stole his fakeclaim.

Also, I got my 2nd favourite CO ever. So happy.

[bv310]

Yeah, it was kinda funny. Then Fate and VV started screaming at each other and the game got sad pretty quick.

Also,

vote: Chesskid

. Miller claims are best tested with a long piece of rope. I've seen way too many scum claim miller that at this point, we should just PL him on D1 and deal with his actual flip later.

[bv310]

So Gand/Chess scumteam? Interesting.

Also, Gand, weren't you in LoTR when Zwet tried claiming miller as scum?

[bv310]

>LOL.JPG YOU CANT LYNCH ME BASED OFF ZWET PARALLELS >_>
>BUT I AM SCUM THO

HOLY CRAP FATE AGREES WITH SOMETHING I'VE SAID!

Also, Chess, I wasn't talking to you. I have more examples, but I can't exactly post them now (two I know of are ongoing)

[bv310]

Chess, name-claim please.

[bv310]

uh yeah I didnt even open the last game, I just read the sample role PM which was from the last game, DERP

Fun fact: That was my role PM from last game.

[bv310]

vote: The Mask

I really don't know what to say. Last time I saw a scum implode this badly, it was Shotty.

Wait...

[bv310]

Gand, that makes no sense. If you cast a hammering vote, he's going to stay dead. (Not that I'm complaining. He needs a good lynching, same as Mask)

[bv310]

What? I don't think you understood what I was saying.

Oh, and if you're L+1, tell me NOW, so that BV can't try to cut me off again. I WILL vote you, but I will also immediately unvote, so that if you are L+1, you won't die, but I still get the hammer AND prove my DV status if you aren't.

Here you're saying that if he's at L-1, you can vote him and then immediately unvote and he won't be lynched. I'm saying that doesn't make any sense.

[bv310]

unvote, vote: Chesskid

Damn, we've got two conf-scum already. Care to out your buddy so we can call this a game?

[bv310]

Lash is from Black Hole, but seriously use your damn brain Mask. He's claiming to be a Miller-Hider-Cop who's also miraculously immune from Scum abilities.

[bv310]

Av, the part you're forgetting is where HIS CLAIMED CHARACTER IS BLACK HOLE AND HIS CLAIMED ROLE MAKES NO SENSE.

[bv310]

6 fucking days is a long time Chess. Even then, you're only ability-confirmed, which means nothing.

[bv310]

IF WE WAIT 5 DAYS, SCUM WILL LIKELY GET A KILL.

Their kill charges the same way all CO Powers do. If we lynch you and you, by some miracle of nature, flip Town, we have plenty of time to find scum and lynch them before they get a kill off. If we wait, they likely get a kill right away, which means we lose a player for nothing.

P-EDIT: Ninja'd by GW

[bv310]

Hell, I'll gladly take the next lynch if it means we kill Chess-scum first.

[bv310]

con
not really anything because chess being mafia living for 5d extra doesnt really hurt

False. Con: Scum get an extra 5 days of charge on their factional kill that they otherwise wouldn't get. That's good enough reason to lynch you, when it's combined with your absolutely awful play.

[bv310]

I would go with the "pretending you're mentally retarded in order to make people give up on reading you".

Also, we're lynching you first, then we do the second lynch on cooldown. You're a guaranteed hit, whereas the next will be more of a toss-up.

[bv310]

Well, I'm a man of my word if nothing else, so I'm down to be the lynch for today. I'll claim once I hit L-1, and give my thoughts about my wagon at the same time.

[bv310]

Wow AV. "Should we wait for him to contribute before we lynch him?"

Anyway, I'm Sasha of Blue Moon. I'm extremely rich, and together with my brother Colin, we both will use our wallets to bring the enemy to their knees. My CO is Market Crash, which uses my knowledge and sway to cause a steep crash in any COs fortunes (Depletes charge meter by 50%). My SCO is War Bonds, which allows me to use my immense wealth to bribe the public officials of my enemies (I secretly control one player's vote for 7 days). My Passive is Power of Money, simply by displaying my wealth, I am able to command more respect (As long as my SCO is charged, I gain an additional vote)

Wagon analysis to come when I'm not tired and hungry.

[bv310]

No, you get to lynch the Town roleblocker/double voter, but I really don't care.

[bv310]

It's not specified. I think it's just flavour there. Too bad though. Sasha/Colin would be a great Masonry.

[bv310]

Well, was going to do an analysis, but there's really a distinct lack of reasoning. As far as I can tell now, the following people are voting me: Fate, The Mask, Enigma, AV, and Gand.

Of these, Enigma's is easily the worst. Look at his ISO. In it, he doesn't mention me at all until he votes for me. In fact, he is one of the leading proponents of the Chess wagon. Then he turns around and unvotes me a few posts later, admitting that he doesn't have enough reason to vote for me. Enigma, what changed between yesterday at 2:18am and today at 8:55am to make you not only want to unvote me, but also to unvote your cooldown?

vote: Enigma

Of the rest, Fate's been flip-flopping back and forth, AV is piggybacking off of other people's reasoning, and Mask has a valid point.

Gand is probably the second scummiest on the wagon. His hammer on Chess is terrible, and his insistence on being able to control enough votes to run the game is awful.
@Gand, would you be willing to nameclaim? Seeing as you've already said that you ability is name-supported, and I for one can't imagine any character who's a flavour supported Hated Townie with that kind of ability.

[bv310]

But you started the day off by voting for me (Following everyone else), rather than making up your own mind. What changed between the opening of the day (and your vote for me) and you suddenly changing your mind once it was clear that Gand had enough to hammer me?

[bv310]

That fits, but why are you a Hated Townie? Grimm's not especially disliked.

[bv310]

unvote, vote: Crazypianist

I still refuse to call Chess "right", but his post is godawful.

[bv310]

vote: Accelerate cooldown

[bv310]

My power's charged too. I can prove that, I just need to know who to target.

[bv310]

/prodded.

vote: Enigma

I stand by what I said yesterday, and a quick look through his ISO does nothing to make him look any less scummy. His first vote in the game is on page 12, where he jumps on the Chesskid wagon. His next is in post 514 where he jumps on my wagon, then in post 544, when we're closer to the scum kill being charged and in even more need of rushing through a lynch if we want the second one in before the kill, he unvotes both me and accelerated cooldown. I also really don't like his answers to my questioning him on his quick unvote.

Care to comment Enigma? I'm curious why you wanted to prolong the day.

[bv310]

I'm a double voter right now, but I can grab someone else's vote or mash one of the scum's CO charges if we want to prove my ability/role.

[bv310]

What am I commenting on? You failed to refute any of my real points, and instead tried to deflect saying that using pages instead of date/time was bad. I disagree.

[bv310]

I still think Enigma needs some serious pressure, but a claimed guilty is worth a quicker check.

unvote, vote: Implosion

[bv310]

unvote, vote: GreyICE

I'm a DV though, so this'll be moving back to Imp or Enigma as soon as possible.

[bv310]

So scum team is Enigma/Implosion and who?

[bv310]

unvote

just in case some shenanigans are in effect and he's not hammered.

[bv310]

FATE: Enigma first, then GreyICE, please. That quickhammer was scummy as fuck. Plus, this is pretty on-par for average GreyICE play. See Sherlock Holmes for what I'm talking about.

vote: Enigma

[bv310]

My vote steal doesn't give me control to move your vote wherever. I get the second vote, and your vote doesn't count. I haven't used it yet either, btw.

[bv310]

I support that plan. Enigma first please?

[bv310]

Jake - Tank CO of orange star.
I use brute strength and a squadron of tanks to achieve my means.

And my JK doesn't diminish the charge at all. I thought about your claim, but it's unnecessary given the mechanics of my ability.

Ninja: Umm just delay my lynch for a few days it charges pretty quick but doesn't last very long.

Wrong. Max is the Tank CO of Orange Star. Jake is the all-around CO with the headphones. Nice try, Jugger.

vote: Enigma

[bv310]

That was my votes, I haven't stolen a vote yet.

[bv310]

My opinion is the following: WE NEED TO LYNCH ENIGMA TODAY. If we do so, I will support lynching Fate tomorrow. We also need to stop wasting time and FUCKING KILL ENIGMA BEFORE THE SCUM KILL CHARGES.

[bv310]

How do you mean AV?

[bv310]

Grey, the other half to that speculation is in knowing who the other Black Hole COs are, We've killed Kindle, so that leaves Jugger (luck-based), Koal (vehicle), and Von Bolt (Commander) as the remaining possible roles. I don't think we're dealing with a 4-scum game, and I'd figure that Von Bolt is the least likely to be included. Keep that in mind when we're speculating.

Been looking for an opportunity to get this in for a while now, with all the speculating on powers that's been going on.

[bv310]

vote: Accelerate

[bv310]

vote: GreyICE

[bv310]

vote: Sociopath

I honestly expected to come in here to see:
bv310 (Sasha of Blue Moon, Allied Nations), and
SocioPath (Koal of Black Hole) killed D4

Seeing the opposite means that either Koal or Von Bolt have a redirect. Socio's the most likely scum, therefore Die scum die.

[bv310]

Nah, I'm Town. You scum Fate?

[bv310]

vote: accelerate

I figured we didn't need to since Grey was killed.

Also, it's called sarcasm. Ever heard of it?

[bv310]

Uh, TS, I'm pretty sure that scum kill doesn't use power meter. It didn't last game, iirc.

[bv310]

Has everybody CO-claimed? I have an idea, but I need to see what names are claimed before I elaborate

[bv310]

TS, name-claim please. Also, that's clearly false, unless Fate's pulling a Resurgence again. Gand, would you be willing to double lynch TS and Fate? I still have my double vote, and we can have them vote each other.

[bv310]

Yeah, mine's still 100% charged.

[bv310]

vote: TS

Thought there was five of us for some reason.

[bv310]

For Shit's sake Gand. I'm TOWN. I hope to God TS is Scum and we lynched him first, otherwise we just lost.

[bv310]

You really can't read, can you TS.

[bv310]

Very true, but I'm already hammered. I have no reason to lie at this point.

[bv310]

Fate, I appreciate the incredulence, and I do wish I was scum just to have this to brag about, but I'm actually town this game. I swear if Gand's actually the scum, I'm going to flip shit.

[bv310]

Fuck yeah we just won by accident, although I was coming on here to steal Gand's votes and lynch Fate if I wasn't dead. That's why I was asking him to CO-claim, because I'm pretty sure he claimed like 2 or 3 roles.


Also, Chess, just fuck off. None of us care that you are butthurt that you got lynched D1 because you're a scummy moron.

[bv310]

Also, what was up with the 4 Orange Star, 2 Green Earth, 1 Blue Moon, and 1 Yellow Comet? Was it just the people who survived the last game?

[bv310]

That was going to be a big part of my pushing for the TS/Fate double lynch. It seemed off for there to be 4 OS and only me from Blue Moon.

[bv310]

or are just retards

FTFY

[bv310]

Given that that's Fate/AGM's hydra, I choose not to accept anything it says. I also vote that we just let this game die. Pretty sure everyone's won at this point, so let's just call it that.

[bv310]

Calling it a draw due to mod error. Everybody wins.

[bv310]

OK so here's how I see it happening.

In an ideal world the lynch of bv would have occurred on 4/20.
Gandalf would then be at L-1 for having one fewer vote but he wouldn't die as the lynch wasn't cooldown.
Fate would have voted gandalf to kill him obviously.
But gandalf and ts would have obviously spotted this and accelerated and voted for fate at the same time.
TS is left alive for a town win.

This. No real way to tell how those days after my lynch would have played out, so yeah.

[bv310]

He was starting to come around when I was pushing for you, and my flip as a Townie probably would have pushed him over the edge.

[bv310]

After the way town played, and the way I played, you couldn't give me THIS ONE?

Fuckin fine.

You got Resurgence. Be happy with that town-fail.