Mini 1161 - Neruzian Era Mafia (Over!)

[Sloth]

Pappums, care to explain, or are you just wagoning for the sake of wagoning?

[Sloth]

Hiplop, why criticize looker for an IIoA-ish post and then throw down an RV?

[charter]

Vote: Sloth

- He looks like scum pretending to be useful.

So you already think Sloth is scum?

Right now I could pick any of Looker, TS, or Pappums as people that need to get more pressure. So I pick

Vote Looker

. Why does Empking look like scum?
Pappums, why are you voting Sloth?
TS, you've yet to say anything at all, but you seem like you're posting.

To be honest, I haven't seen anything yet that makes me think someone is scum (shocking) but am surprised others have.

[charter]

Sloth, have your questions provided any useful information to you? (just looking for a "yes" or "no")

[pappums rat]

I put my vote on Sloth because nothing has stood out to me yet in this game and I wanted to see how he would respond to a second vote on him.

[Vi]

Never said I was. I've only been asking about RVS wagons.

Then it should be okay for you to give me YOUR opinion about the wagons right now, right?

I'd also like to know what you think of Empking's accusation.

Unvote
Vote: Sloth

• You're doing it wrong.

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Never said I was. I've only been asking about RVS wagons.

• In reference to your wagon question, I think we should have three legitimate wagons before killing anyone.

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Charter, what are your thoughts on RVS wagons?

The bigger, the better.

• I agree.
• Your Empking vote's hilarious, by the way.

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Vote: Sloth

- He looks like scum pretending to be useful.

• And you look like scum. VOTE: Empking

you didn't say anything in this post, why quote so much if you're not going to say anything useful

you didn't say anything in this post that empking didn't say in his post above yours, why quote so much if you're not going to say anything useful

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I definitely think my Neuky vote is best right now. More than anyone else it seems like he's trying to hide.

[Juls]

Pre-apology: Some of this is out of order because I saw a couple things, noted them and then re-read the first 3 pages in more detail.

Pappums, care to explain, or are you just wagoning for the sake of wagoning?

Why are the wagons so concerning to you?

Hiplop, why criticize looker for an IIoA-ish post and then throw down an RV?

hypocritical much? Or do you think Vi is scummy?

I think it's the wagoning at the first sign of a semblance of a reasonable vote, Vi.

Do you see this as scummy too? If so, why is your vote still on Vi?

I saw what you did there.. (and you are right of course - I thought it was quite cheeky of me, but quite deserved IMO).

So, you are saying you did that on purpose, to be "cheeky"? Or did you agree with what Quilford was saying?

I think we should have three legitimate wagons before killing anyone.

Splain.

And you look like scum. VOTE: VOTE: Empking

Splain.

also VOTE: VOTE: vote ts

You see nothing worth voting and are RVSing still?

Unless I am mistaken, I am pretty sure Looker's vote on you was an RVS vote...

I didn't get that.

I put my vote on Sloth because nothing has stood out to me yet in this game and I wanted to see how he would respond to a second vote on him.

And, what have you learned?

UNVOTE: Vi
VOTE: Sloth

I feel that you are asking a lot of questions but aren't placing your vote with the questions and instead have an RVS vote still hanging out there.

[Sloth]

Sloth, have your questions provided any useful information to you? (just looking for a "yes" or "no")

...Kind of. Gives me a better feel for the players in the game but I haven't gleaned any tells.

Never said I was. I've only been asking about RVS wagons.

Then it should be okay for you to give me YOUR opinion about the wagons right now, right?

I'd also like to know what you think of Empking's accusation.

I like RVS wagons, and think they're a good way of getting the whole stage over and done with.
I find Empking's accusations bizarre, cause I feel like at least attempting to be helpful is a whole lot better than doing nothing at all. If his feeling is just gut, I understand that, but calling me out for asking questions just seems odd.

@Juls: I see your point. No reason in holding on to my RV.

VOTE: Hiplop

[Neruz]

Faraday replaces bigbenwd, i'll have a votecount up in a sec.

[Neruz]

I accidentally broke this votecount ignore it >.>

[Faraday]

Hey

Vote Quilford

I'm :goodposting: already.

[Faraday]

Also ongoing games. Stop talking about them.

[Faraday]

Pre-apology: Some of this is out of order because I saw a couple things, noted them and then re-read the first 3 pages in more detail.

Is a little weird too.

[Twistedspoon]

oh noes, faraday again :0

I'll post tonight guys

[Twistedspoon]

Right now I could pick any of Looker, TS, or Pappums as people that need to get more pressure. So I pick

Vote Looker

.

surely saying a vote is for pressure negates the point of it.
methinks faraday told me that :p

[Empking]

If his feeling is just gut, I understand that, but calling me out for asking questions just seems odd.

I'm calling you out for pointless (in context) questions.

[Juls]

Pre-apology: Some of this is out of order because I saw a couple things, noted them and then re-read the first 3 pages in more detail.

Is a little weird too.

Not sure why it is weird. I skimmed, saw some stuff on the most recent page from Sloth and wrote a post. I had read page 1-2 yesterday morning but didn't have time to post, so I re-read everything to see if there was anything else I wanted to comment on.

[Vi]

And it looks like the answer to "got thread?" is evidently "no".

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Sloth, that was a bit of a dodge. We have better-than-random votes going down now. Why Hiplop over the various other nonrandom votes going around?

The "better than nothing" defense isn't particularly convincing; looking helpful and being scum are not mutually exclusive.

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Right now I could pick any of Looker, TS, or Pappums as people that need to get more pressure. So I pick

Vote Looker

.

surely saying a vote is for pressure negates the point of it.

And what are you going to do about that?

[Quilford]

I won't exactly be v/la, but I won't be posting very frequently in the next few weeks - my exams are upon me

I'll get to everyone when I have time.

[Neuky]

Okay - 1st:
@Juls

I saw what you did there.. (and you are right of course - I thought it was quite cheeky of me, but quite deserved IMO).

So, you are saying you did that on purpose, to be "cheeky"? Or did you agree with what Quilford was saying?

Both. It was RVS, why say something so wishy washy? Using his logic to vote him appealed to my sense of irony.

I definitely think my Neuky vote is best right now. More than anyone else it seems like he's trying to hide.

Let's see - the game starts and in the 1st 24 hours I've posted my RV, and a reply to a question from Sloth. - hardly prod material yet. 10 hours later (while I'm asleep), Vi posts the above. Folks, please try and remember we are all in different time zones.

Anyway, your vote and comment interests me:

Vote: Neuky

(L-6)
Something seems off, although I'm not sure I can explain it.

Talk about vague. There's two ways I can take this - a. That you're scum trying to start a wagon on a newb, or b. (The way I actually see it), town putting some early pressure on a newb to see if he gets a strange reaction (e.g. hiding, or over defensiveness).

Unlike....

I think it's the wagoning at the first sign of a semblance of a reasonable vote, Vi.

Unless he's a pal of yours, that sounds like buddying to me. I also see no reason for him to confirm your thoughts to you (presumably you already know what you meant). So, was he instead taking the opportunity to make me look more suspicious? I don't know of course, it's early days, but I don't like the buddying feel to it. (Yes I know town can buddy town etc, but to quote yourself, "Something seems off").

I also noticed Sloth's 1st hello post:

Yes to the nights thing too, for the record.

Long nights = boring as all hell.

Bolded bit reads to me like an over-reaction to the question.

VOTE: Sloth L-3

[Vi]

I definitely think my Neuky vote is best right now. More than anyone else it seems like he's trying to hide.

Let's see - the game starts and in the 1st 24 hours I've posted my RV, and a reply to a question from Sloth. - hardly prod material yet. 10 hours later (while I'm asleep), Vi posts the above. Folks, please try and remember we are all in different time zones.

Time zones don't have anything to do with it.

*RV post in the middle of evolving discussion
*Post clarifying that yes, you were actually trying to say as little as possible

I also saw your name on the active posters list while I was typing 36 and 38, so I knew you were around and not saying anything then too.

So you are correct about why I voted, and you even listed the suspect behavior I got back.

I also see no reason for

[Sloth]

to confirm your thoughts to you (presumably you already know what you meant).

Actually, in this case I didn't. I felt kind of slow afterward. <.<
I see why you're calling buddying on Sloth but I don't think that was what was actually happening.

[Neuky]

Name calling from Vi? - I'm a bit disappointed if indeed that's what it is. (We could all do that, but it'd end up a bit of a barney..)

Sometimes I log on and read, but don't have time to post. (I usually post at lunchtimes at work, or late evenings). I do try and keep up. I also see Quilford is active at the moment but not posting - but I'll not hold that against him unless it's part of a bigger case.

Anyway, as you are also online at the moment, what do you think of Sloth's comment on the shortened nights?

[Sloth]

If his feeling is just gut, I understand that, but calling me out for asking questions just seems odd.

I'm calling you out for pointless (in context) questions.

I didn't see it that way. At least it got us talking.

@Vi: I picked out hiplop because of what he's done so far, which is only sheeping on a point already made by Empking (about the length/quality of Looker's post) and then throwing down a random vote. He just doesn't seem do be doing anything good ATM.

Neuky, are you only voting me for the "buddying" accusation? It was more of a clarification as to why I thought that vote felt weird, which Vi brought up.

Also, I don't understand why me saying long nights are boring as all hell is scummy. They are.

[pappums rat]

Hey Faraday long time no see.
As tempted as I am to vote Faraday for his questionable choices in trouser-wearing, someone else has caught my eye.

I think it's the wagoning at the first sign of a semblance of a reasonable vote, Vi.

Unless he's a pal of yours, that sounds like buddying to me. I also see no reason for him to confirm your thoughts to you (presumably you already know what you meant). So, was he instead taking the opportunity to make me look more suspicious? I don't know of course, it's early days, but I don't like the buddying feel to it. (Yes I know town can buddy town etc, but to quote yourself, "Something seems off").

I also noticed Sloth's 1st hello post:

Yes to the nights thing too, for the record.

Long nights = boring as all hell.

Bolded bit reads to me like an over-reaction to the question.

VOTE: Sloth L-3

Both of those reasons for voting Sloth sound no good to me, and here is why. As for your first accusation, pointing out something to Vi is not the same as buddying. People do this all the time, and there is nothing wrong with it. Second accusation = WTF. Overreaction? No. He was making a simple comment about not liking long nights. I saw exactly

nothing

wrong with this statement. It seems to me that you are the one overreacting here. You get the slightest pressure and you start reaching for someone else to shift suspicions onto. Me no likey.

Unvote
Vote Neuky

[pappums rat]

* And lol at saying you are disappointed with Vi for "namecalling." Calling you "sheepy" and "le sheep" are in no way malicious namecalling.