YosFlavouredCayke and pathetrick backed each other up as probably town for most of Day 1, and then pathetrick showed up dead the first night. Could have been a scum ploy to make YosFlavouredCayke look good.
In general, YosFlavouredCayke was very buddy-buddy with pathetrick, essentially citing their outside friendship as a reason to think they were town. Comments like "Ether doesn't say she's town unless she's town" have no real meaning in a game of mafia. The same with "I didn't think there's any way that anyone pro-town could read Ether's posts and not see that they all screamed town." Neither provide any actual reasoning to think pathetrick was protown, but this opinion seems to be the basis of many of YosFlavouredCayke's actions on Day 1. Given Yos' tendency to be a very logically driven player, I'm not liking this coming from him.
YosFlavouredCayke defended Frogito Ergo Scum when prompted to. They have also been fixated on Final Destination since Day 1, and had only a small reason to vote them in the first place. Even when Yos went back and did ISOs on people, here was the total reasoning for Pathetric and Final Destination:
"100% superdupertriplelooper obvtown"
"scummy."
Since they hadn't presented much to begin with, this doesn't amount to very much.
Since Yos tried to defend himself by saying buddying is not a scumtell, I'll address that as well. Buddying in and of itself is not a scumtell, but it is a scumtell when there is no reasoning presented to back up strong declarations of someone's innocence. The same applies to attacking someone, so it's less about the act of buddying and more about the lack of evidence.
Cayke claims that FD had been the focus for a lot of their posts, but there had been no real content other than the slight scumtell mentioned in the inital vote. I don't know if she's just not paying attention, or if they're trying to pull the wool over our eyes. If you say something enough times it must be true! [/obvobv] The point here is that they may have spent time talking about FD and accusing them of being scum, but they didn't spend a lot of time actually presenting reasons for FD to be scum, so to go through and do ISOs of everyone and then just conclude that FD is "scummy." doesn't sit well with me at all, and it feels like a copout.
On the other hand, I feel compelled to point out that some of the attacks on YosFlavouredCayke have been poorly explained/executed, and I don't necessarily agree with them. The idea that they are scum just because pathetrick is town (this was on Day 1) is retarded, so I don't know what Beaver Weasel was smoking. It's not as simple as that, and to try and formulate an attack in that manner isn't useful at all.
More defense of FES.
Next a lurker wagon, then OMGUSing and OMGUS attack on themselves. Went gung-ho after DaSpot, kinda odd after the complete lack of arguments presented against FD, who was obvscum up until the point that Cayke decided to disagree with Yos and call them town, at which point Yos completely stopped mentioning them.
I don't like the argument that people who felt pathetrick might be scum are probably scum themselves. It completely fails to acknowledge that townies can be wrong and that scum who *know* pathetrick is town can also call them protown in order to win points with the rest of the town.
More defense of FES, saying they are "so obviously a mislynch, it hurts to watch." Another emotional ploy without any reasoning. So far the only reasoning I have found is CES' stubbornness being a town tell, nothing else.
Agreed that voting someone you think is scum is never a useless endeavor. Good logic here.
When finally pushed to present evidence on DaSpot, went through and picked over every tiny thing they did. Good post, but we wonder why it took them so long to present any of this reasoning.
Whoa, all of a sudden it's back to FD being scum on Day 3? Where did this come from and why have we still not gotten reasoning for it?
Finally Profane Confusion manages to coax some reasoning about FD, why did it take 2 1/2 days to get this from them?
Protown CES generally leads games, and FES isn't doing that, so we're not sure why YosFlavouredCayke is so convinced that FES is town. Not a lot of evidence in favor of FES at this point. However, they aren't necessarily scum either, because there isn't strong evidence either way.
Everything from YosFlavouredCayke seems really uninspired this game. Not at all what we'd expect from them if they were town. A lot of their posts calling people scummy are rarely backed up with arguments or reasoning, and they have called people obvtown to the point of defending them vehemently without even presenting logic to back up their opinion.
Note that this ISO in no way reflects a town or scum read on FD or anyone else at this point. Those ISOs have not been performed in-depth yet. We don't question YosFlavouredCayke's opinion of FD outright, but rather the way in which they behaved regarding FD's wagon.
[Mastermate-approved post]