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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 11:04 am

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right

I'll probably get stoned for this, but my gut is telling me that the players you find scummiest in Empking, Hiplop and Quilford are my top townreads. I'll have to try and justify that somehow now that I've said it. sigh.

Sure, the L-1 reason for Quilford was horrendous by Hiplop, but I know his scum meta and this doesn't seem to follow suit :/

Scott deserves to be lynched today, IMO, becasue of his tendancy to find NOTHING scummy in the first 7 pages. If that was true there would have been nothing to talk about for 7 pages. he then deflects by saying I'm scummy for trying to get him to share with us the things he's found scummiest. Aside from that nothing merits more than a null read from him at best.

Charter seems a bit anti-town so far, but that could just be playstyle. His massclaim Joke-trap thing could have been a hazard had we less experienced players, and his post-claim Quilford pushing seems artificial. Quilford is most obvtown even more now.
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 11:43 am

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oh sorry sloth :oops:

honestly, i get a bad feeling from sloth, but i wouldn't classify him as scum.. more like a scummy Null.. if that makes sense :$

As in, i wouldnt be surprised if he flips scum
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 11:46 am

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Vi/Hiplop intereactions are so fucking awkward.
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 11:47 am

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Faraday wrote:charter's play looks very town, tbh. the wanting to lynch a vanilla thing isn't scummy, it's something i'd expect out of him regardless of alignment. I actually
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his position w/r/t the quilford wagon before the claim very much.


Meh, disagree. I think he's pushing for an easy town lynch D1.

Anyways hiplop is back to being scummy. In your eyes, hip, what is the reason you're voting Quilford?
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 12:00 pm

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hiplop where'd your neuky town read come from? it seems like ...out of your ass, to be honest.
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 12:12 pm

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In your eyes, hip, what is the reason you're voting Quilford?


Hes scummy, everything he types seems forced

hiplop where'd your neuky town read come from?


Neuky has seemed towny the entire time, hes the one im least confident in though, to be honest.
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 12:53 pm

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Do you think that his reaction to the wagon reaching L-1 and the subsequent claim felt forced?
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 12:54 pm

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actually i haven't really read that part :oops:

ill take a looksie now
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 1:21 pm

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yeah hiplop's town.
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 1:32 pm

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I'm back. *waves at Zdenek*

charter wrote:Explain to me how you came up with that, because I came up with the opposite.


It's basically asking for permission to hammer. A quickhammer would draw undue ire, but by casting suspicion and a desire to vote, it tees up a hammer more effectively.

charter wrote:What questionable comments have I made? What was questionable about them?


Criticizing Vi's hiplop vote was a biggie (not just for the reasoning behind it, but for not even giving the reasoning behind it initially). A couple others, just from a quick glance at your ISO:

#3: Saying that nobody looks like scum to you, but listing three players who deserve pressure.

#10: Asking one player to play psychic with another player is both fruitless and a nice way to appear like you're doing something.

BTW, the way you've been explaining your actions vis-a-vis Quil isn't changing my scumread on you in the slightest.

Onward...

The way Quil claimed screams panicked town to me. I'm willing to believe he's town for the moment.

Faraday's #241: Why is TS scum? Also, could I get a quick suspect list from you, in any particular order of scumminess? Especially in light of your changed read on Quil?

Charter's #249: Last town game I completed, scum said pretty much exactly this.

Liking Vi's #252.

Zdenek's entry in #271 looks townish.

Pappum's #273: Why scumread on TS? Why townread on Faraday?

Faraday's #279: Still not seeing the charter towniness--what are you seeing that I'm apparently not?

Vi's #285: Why don't you feel the need to formalize your accusations of Emp?

Hiplop's #297: WHY on G-d's green earth do you not feel ready to move your vote from Quil yet? Rly? Also, if Emp were to flip scum, I'm coming for you big time.

Hiplop's #299: Okay, so if adding pressure was a side benefit to your vote, why was it the only reason you cited when you put Quil at L-1?

Twistedspoon's #300: Can you elaborate on hiplop's scum meta at all? A game link would be nice if possible.

Faraday's #302: How so? And why is hiplop town?

Hiplop's 297 and 299 are reconfirming my suspicions of him. Vote stays.

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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 1:37 pm

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yoshi, i was on V/LA and all i had was my phone to log on, so i was pretty brief during that time

I had mentioned before that, that i was suspicioous of qwilfish.
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 1:37 pm

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also can you guys explain the suspicions on Empking?
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 2:00 pm

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Twistedspoon 300 wrote:Sure, the L-1 reason for Quilford was horrendous by Hiplop, but I know his scum meta and this doesn't seem to follow suit :/
What IS hiplop's scum meta?

Faraday 302 wrote:Vi/Faraday intereactions are so fucking awkward.
FTFY. Mostly on your end.

Yoshi 309 wrote:Vi's #285: Why don't you feel the need to formalize your accusations of Emp?
Everyone already knows what I'm talking about. Consider also the futility of convincing scum they are scum.

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hiplop 305 wrote:
In your eyes, hip, what is the reason you're voting Quilford?


Hes scummy, everything he types seems forced
Example please.

You can find the reasons people don't like Empking by reading the thread (specifically my posts and pap-rat's).
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 2:14 pm

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no. i sai what i meant. everytime you interact with hiplop it brings me out in a fucking rash.
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 2:16 pm

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suspect list, sure

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no idea on scott bro. would guess town
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 2:17 pm

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oh quilford is town too. derp.
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 2:19 pm

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pappums is town too. oh man i'm townhunting like a champ. fucking 13 player games

and charter looks v town. his early play is strongly town, I already said I thought charterscum would adopt a different position w/r/t his vote on looker. calling out vi on the votes was fine too. what else? oh his position on quilford isn't popular true, but it's really not scummy. not seeing a whole lot of good reasons to change my read from the early one I had.
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 2:25 pm

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oh i completely ignored zdenek's post, brb.
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 2:27 pm

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townier than vi, scummier than pappums rat is his category.
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 2:27 pm

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DarthYoshi is scum/my? You said that before but there's about as much reason behind it as usual.

I can see the idea behind charterscum wanting to
kill kill kill
everyone immediately because :charter: but I don't think NOT doing that is indicative of charterTown.
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 2:30 pm

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If you haven't replaced me yet, you should. Work just picked up all of a sudden what with Yosemite Sam going down.
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 2:33 pm

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Looker wrote:If you haven't replaced me yet, you should. Work just picked up all of a sudden what with Yosemite Sam going down.
You're replaced. Take care.
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 2:36 pm

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Vi wrote:DarthYoshi is scum/my? You said that before but there's about as much reason behind it as usual.

Yes. I guess i'd call him the pro town looking scumbag? That makes sense to me.

I'll see if I can explain a bit more tomorrow after my exam since you didn't actually ask though.


I can see the idea behind charterscum wanting to
kill kill kill
everyone immediately because :charter: but I don't think NOT doing that is indicative of charterTown.

Eh, I don't know, I think he'd be more inclined to bulldoze early as scum if he was unsure, and it didn't seem like that. I'm not saying it's the strongest town tell ever, but I think it's pretty lgit.

ebwop : so fucking cutting lmao.
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 2:37 pm

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god i fucking suck at typing.
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Mon May 02, 2011 3:04 pm

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Vote Count


Empking
( 3 )
- pappums rat, Vi, Faraday
Quilford
( 4 )
- Scott Brosius, charter, Empking, hiplop
Scott Brosius
( 1 )
- Twistedspoon
hiplop
( 3 )
- Neuky, DarthYoshi, Quilford
Charter
( 2 )
- Sloth, Zdenek

Not Voting -


With 13 alive, it is 7 votes to lynch.

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