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Drat. A language post restriction. I believe that is true because of Charlie the Unicorn 2. Add to the fact that I don't believe that kryptinen isthatcruel or sneaky. Therefore: game mechanic.Kindness-
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@RepearCharlie: Your attitude is questionable (but I'm not offended).
Umbrage wrote:3. The switch from 'enraged at a really bad vote' to 'oh well we all have our own opinions' is really fake. Especially when you remember that NO NEW INFO was posted during the time in between. Charlie said he saw rule #1, so why didn't he apply that logic earlier? It's a staged fit followed by a quick retreat. Scummy.
Not scummy, "testy" is more accurate. I stand by my action.
Nobody Special wrote:Charlie, why do you feel so strongly that, in a game where it's specifically stated that we should expect the unexpected, you can write off anything as "usual"?
Oh no, don't you start! You know exactly what I mean.
ReaperCharlie's #80: What is this sudden attack on one of my attacker for? What is this nonsense about smileys? Better off unsaid IMHO.
Pulindar wrote:Thoughts#1. Pre game post, you ask everyone to join with you in a friendly. Could have been trying to predispose people into feeling you are friendly.
#3 actively joined Tans' side, in your own words.
#4 made an assumption about language restriction
#5 D1 clearing kryp. If kryp is town may be an attempt for friendly feelings, attacks Rinox
#6-7 tries to ease off
#8 I'm not sure if he was joking with RC or trying to be funny/serious. Came off as a joke, maybe to mend poor feelings by siding against him earlier? Still voting RC
#9 actively stays out of the conversation, that is true lurking. IMHO
Questions1. Why did you join Tans side, and why did you specifically call it a side?
2. Do you see your actions as lurking.
First, I already like you because of your owl avatar. Second, I like your posting style.
1) ReaperCharlie is quite... antsy. Taking the opposing side of himshouldget a strong reaction. (This is why I choose to wait and see)
2) A little bit lurky; I'll leave it up to you to decide which type of lurking this is.
ReaperCharlie #101: Big plan
ReaperCharlie #104: Durr. This reminds me of some Fate-sy shenanigans.
Page 5: Wall after wall by ReaperCharlie. Kinda null, sadly, because in all probability he'll do this as either alignment.
Stefunny wrote:I don't see how this is really relevant. I stated what I need to state already. In games I have played with Unicorns I have been NK'd Night 1. They apparently think it's funny...
Oh good. You answered. Sadly, the time for friendly chit-chat has passed.
Stefunny wrote:You never came back and gave any insight as to why you didn't like Charlies post. You have asked questions that I feel are non-relevant and/or leading, and I don't like how your posts are 98% questions and 2% input.
Hope the content you find in this post enough to change your mind.
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My vote (shun) on ReaperCharlie stays. Suffice to say I've seen him as Mafia once and as third party once. I feel the playstyle in those games and here are the same. Although his wall are null to me, they still give me a bad feeling. This is called gut, and I'll stand by it.Kindness-
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You people unhappy that I've shunned post #65?
Hopefully this would prove that I've been sincere.
ReaperCharlie wrote:So you are completely writing off kryptinen as scum just because he/she has a PR? haaaaa dumb. This kind of pigeonholing is what makes people pay in the end. I wrote off Parama as scum in POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA because of this post, and I MYSELF voted wrong twice in a 6-1 endgame after correctly nailing the other two scum. I had confirmational bias (town) on Parama and I let it blind me.
The fact that you're doing this on Day 1, on PAGE THREE makes me extremely suspicious of you because who as town would write somebody off this early.
Unvote; Vote: Charlie. This is a serious vote.
1) Saying "haaaaa dumb" isn't a serious response.
2) Comparison based on your experience, a very specific one, is overgeneralizing. The question to ask is: is what you're comparing actually on the same level? No, it's too subjective and biased towards your opinion.
3) Taking the matter so seriously and so early... is not giving a chance to hear the other side out. From this I can conclude your subsequent posting will contain obnoxious behaviour, which I find is a barrier to effective communication and discussion. Can you prove me wrong now, after 10 pages?
ReaperCharlie wrote:Yeah either that or the mafia have a fakeclaim of one of the blue or pink unicorns (the spanish speakers). Which makes sense from a modding standpoint, because they are the main characters except for Charlie. I would expect them to either be that, or masons. But I'm 200% sure they're in the game.
Also, the "we have our differences, fine" is a classic "ok, let's agree to disagree" that I see from scum who want to pacify a townie when it turns out their stance was unpopular. I almost NEVER see townies make any kind of pacification statements like this.
Rhinox is probtown due to #61. I can't see scum posting that. Scum would be more likely to hope that part went unnoticed and would want to pigeonhole things and try to create false subconscious leanings within people based on fallacies like "nobody with a PR could be scum".
@ tanstalas's #53: I have had this conversation before (posts #6, 11, 13, 14, 18), and I will have it again here. If Hiraki was scum and so was I, then why wouldn't we sit there and try to stretch it out for as long as possible. Me trying to start the game as soon as possible should make you think the exact opposite of "reaper is scum".
Also, the caveat to this is, like Magua says in post #13 of the topic linked above, if scum have daytalk. He's a fan of daytalking scum, and I, too, am a huge proponent.
1) Assumptions, assumptions. Good to hear, but you speak of them as though as if you're right and everybody else is wrong (OK, or their opinions don't matter). The point it, for you the world revolves around you. This isn't great.
2) I give you a facepalm in regard to your second paragraph. You're picking an argument just for the sake of arguing.
3) I find your words long and unconvincing.
4) WIFOM. And confusing
5) Nothing to say.
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Nobody Special wrote:Charlie, why do you feel so strongly that, in a game where it's specifically stated that we should expect the unexpected, you can write off anything as "usual"?
The problem with this question you ask is... it's worded in such a way that I can't answer it. Look, if we can't makesomebasic assumptions, such as it's common that Town members are given post restrictions, then life would be difficult. Granted, we have our own perceptions and I've stated mine, so what's yours? This post restricted player can go either way in terms of alignment?
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Wagon on ReaperCharlie, please.
His wallposting may be partly due to the fact that he:
1) Is usually like that
2) Excited about this game from the start, as evidenced by his alliance plan and massively emotional posts
And thus is null, but there is a limit. He should realize that, if he were Town, he should at the very least give some leeway into co-operating with other players. I've seen none of this and the lack of this core attribute is a strong scumtell in my book.Kindness-
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While I do acknowledge that it is more likely that town will have a PR than scum, I cannot completely write off thepossibilitythat scum could have a PR. And you seemed to be saying that scum will Never, Absolutely Not, No Way EVER have a post restriction.Thatis what I was asking you about. I don't feel we have the room to make any assumptions in this game.
I understand what you're saying. That's how the statement seemed to you. But this is what I'm trying to get across: This being day 1, there is some room for assumptions to go around and the assumption that a PR is held by Town is a fair one to make. At least this early in the game. Imagine if I'd done that late game, then by all means you can chastise me for that statement.
Stefunny wrote:If "haaaa dumb" isn't a serious response then how is giving a "facepalm" in response to someone's accusation a serious response? In fact, all of this responseCharlie wrote:
2) I give you a facepalm in regard to your second paragraph. You're picking an argument just for the sake of arguing.
3) I find your words long and unconvincing.
4) WIFOM. And confusing
5) Nothing to say.
Is pretty much useless. Especially when you look at your latest responses.
I'm sorry but I fail to see where this argument is going. I think we should stop it.
Doombunny9 wrote:@Charlie- I believe you've missed my other question. In your post before this you said your vote on RC was kostly due to gut. Who are your top two scumreads and why are they not as good of a vote as RC?
Totally valid question.
Would you accept my answer in list form?
kryptinen - Honorary Town read until something crops up. Already explained how I feel that PR are likely possessed by Town. I can go further to explain the logic behind this if asked.
Doombunny9 - Seems okay so far.
Nobody Special - Funny posts.
Umbrage - loud character, and his arguments with ReaperCharlie I feel isn't really productive. Null read.
Charlie - Not a unicorn
ReaperCharlie - Really think he's Mafia here.
Pulindar - Reading as Town at the moment.
tanstalas - Null
Hiraki - Reading over his ISO he seems to be sparsely posting up until his massive catch-up post at ISO #17. Content-wise, average, emotion-wise, lots. Not sure what to make of him.
Stefunny - Consistent posting, I like her for the fact that she seems to contrast well with ReaperCharlie. Well, this makes it more likely that they don't share the same alignment, and since I think RC is Mafia then she's Town to me.
Zodiark13 - Isn't much content to deal with. Null
Rhinox - My argument with him didn't go to well. Null
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OK, so that was kinda messy. Sorry. But If we take away those truly null, this leaves behind
Nobody Special
Umbrage
Hiraki
Rhinox
Can't really rank them in any order, and I feel that this is kinda like drawing lots. Explaining more would seem difficult. This is why I tend not to explain playsyle by gut.Kindness-
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Doombunny9 wrote:This is me asking.
OK. Think about it this way; put yourself in the shoes of a mod. Now you're the mod. You decide to have a PR-ed player in your game. You weigh the pros and cons of a Town one vs. a Mafia one (or, you automatically make a Town one no questions asked). The PR Townie here is limited in so many ways; they'll be difficult to read, they have the ignored by the lazy, they'll have difficulty in getting their points across. Generally, a crippling role. Very suited to Town. I hope this is logical.
Doombunny9 wrote:Contradiction much? Also, you say you took away the null reads but you listed Umbrage and Rhinox as null. Care to explain? Do you find RC scummy or null/town? do you find Umbrage and Rhinox null or scummy? Also, you skipped over the last part of my question- Why is RC a better lynch than any of these people?
No contradiction. Look at that list again, I've picked out the players who seems null to me but they've done things that stand out in the spotlight to be memorable. They've either been at the center of attention or are causing it. The 2 players I've left out, tanstalas and Zodiark13, managed to duck the spotlight and IMHO are doing a good job of it.
RC is scummy. He's wallposting and verbose because he's excited.
Umbrage had an argument with ReaperCharlie. I think nobody won that one. He's null.
Rhinox's posting seems like he's posting without actually posting. This is what stands out to me. He's null, but since you've asked about his specifically I'll say that he's slightly on the scummy side to me.
Why is RC a better lynch? I'm not sure, I'll defend my vote as where it is but in terms of deciding the best lynch on D1, I'm not good at that. I'll look at the cases on others, judge which is the most convincing one and support it.
Don't get me wrong. Not every mafiascum player plays by 'leading'. Others prefer a more supportive role, and work better co-operating with Town reads.Kindness-
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Doombunny9 wrote:Can you explain what you mean by this?
Even though you've requested to be replaced, I'm going to explain: That could mean posting for the sake of posting i.e. fluff or that could mean he could have posted with more content, but is restricted for whatever reason he chooses.
Stefunny wrote:This definitely falls under "Expect the Unexpected" and It's realistically WIFOM. Yes, it makes more sense logically that the PR is town, but how do we know that the mod didn't anticipate that and make the PR mafia knowing that some would write it off as town. This whole discussion is null. We do not know either way. You should judge what you think Kryptin's position is by the content of her posts, not by her PR.
That makes sense, I agree with you. I'll make an attempt to do that.
Stefunny wrote:Being excited is a scum tell?
No, it's actually a null tell.Kindness-
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tanstalas wrote:A lynch needs to happen Nacho. I am the best case for a mislynch since
a)VT
b)I'm probably also the best informational mislynch
And on the plus side, be lovely to get out of this game where town can't choose someone. Maybe a mislynch and a town kill tonight will wake them up and they can take their head's out of their collective asses
Oh noooo!
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tanstalas, what I meant was do you think you could get a bandwagon up on another player, leading to a lynch of said player? (preferably ReaperCharlie)
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Nachomamma8 may be Mafia in my eyes, but there is nothing stopping him from using the power of common sense.
Nachomamma8 wrote:TANS.
We need two votes for the Zodiark wagon if you get back on it.
If you get back on the Zodiark wagon, then the unicorn brethren will take care of the hammer.
In addition, Haylen is a completely reasonable mod and I'm sure she'd give us a deadline extension, considering I replaced in yesterday, and considering she's been distracted for a lot of this time.
Your behavior right now is ridiculous. There's absolutely no reason to lynch yourself like this. I've seen it done in SAII, Metropolis, etc. by good players saying "just look at my bandwagon, it's all scum", but it never works.
Tans. I know who I want to lynch. And I will get them lynched. You lynching yourself like this will change nothing but my opinion of you.
And I am very tired now and need my sleep, so don't let me wakeup to seeing you lynched.
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Hiraki wrote:Zodiark is ultra-town...
No, I don't see it.
Stefunny wrote:Charlie's insane flailing back and forth between wagons at the end of D1 was scummy as all hell, and now he posts again without any content. Same as yesterday.
It was? I thought it could go either way. I wonder what do others think about it.
Nobody Special wrote:I would be down with an RC lynch.
I have to see a couple things from D1 -- Charlie, specifically -- but RC is almost always a good lynch.
*non-specific indication that I'm not very keen on an RC lynch today*
*indication that I've lost the D1 zealous tunneling on RC*
*interest in knowing your findings*
Stefunny wrote:I had stated my thoughts on the two unicorns were pure speculation, but at this point with a town flip of the Charlie the Unicorn role I think there is a good possibility the Pink and Blue Unicorn roles are mafia. The only problem with this theory is that it is too obvious for them to be lovers/siblings and a double maf lover/sibling combo would be silly...
*expressive indication of interest in speculation*
*noted to be fun but not so useful*
Stefunny's #542 is Town.
ReaperCharlie's #549 is derp.
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ReaperCharlie, stop goofing around and do scumhunting right. So far you're doing it wrong, but not so wrong that its terrible. You can do better than this, I SUPPORT YOU.
Stefunny, you're about the most level headed and Town as can be at the start of D2. You can keep it up, and HAD BETTER keep it up. I aslo SUPPORT YOU.
Zodiark13 & Hiraki: Like Rhinox, I've missed out on the important fact that you're claimed lovers. Apparently I didn't pay much attention to detail, I'll WORK ON THAT. In the meantime, carry on with whatever you two are doing.
And finally: those almonds were delicious, THANK YOU!Kindness-
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Okay, that's not important. Thing is, it makes sense to not lynch one of you Today, as one of you is likely Town who wants to contribute. The anti Town one can muck around a while more I guess.
So, we should lynch an another, more scummy player. How about Rhinox? He's a player who's just waiting around, waiting for a brick to fall. It's time for him to take one.Kindness-
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ReaperCharlie wrote:Yeaaaahhh Charlie, explain to me how you aren't scum? Read: I don't like how you just jump on the chance to spread around my suspicion for Nacho.
Give me one good reason not to lynch you.
This line of questioning doesn't serve any purpose but I'm answering it because you're fun.
1) Nacho is not Town in 4/5 games (a guesstimate) I've played with him.
2) Reason is that I'm your friend. However I am not a unicorn.Kindness-
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Nacho isn't Town due to severe lack of commitment.
RC is his usual self and I don't know how to read him. Town anyway.
Pulindar's still Town.
Everyone else, idk. Stefunny's not posting consistently enough to form a read.
And finally, I'd like to know who gave me those yummies before.
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Let's go back to basics, people. We are in 5 player LyLo. We have at least 2 claimed PRs.
Fullclaims with Night Actions, please.Nacho, especially YOU. Rhinox, you've presented a logic puzzle totally ignoring my claim and I'm not happy with that. Of course, my happiness and yours are a totally different matter.
Fullclaim:
I'm the Choo Choo Shoe, you know, chugga chugga chugga? Its from the first Charlie the Unicorn video, I think it was a Nike or something. I am a tracker. I'm part of the good guys. Additionally, I glean from my Role PM that the Mafia are probably named Pink and Blue.
Night 1 tracked ReaperCharlie to nowhere. Chose him based on top suspicion. I recieved Chocolate Coated Almonds. I know what these do, ReaperCharlie should also know. So I can tell he's trying to pull of a mini-stunt.
Night 2 tracked Nacho to ReaperCharlie. Did so based on top suspect again. Concluded he could not be a protective role based on his strong attack on ReaperCharlie the previous day and unlikely to be investigative role since I'm one myself. By conjecture: he's most probably Mafia Roleblocker.
Night 3 tracked Rhinox. Received a "blocked" result. Choose him based on top suspicion too.I confirm the presence of a blocking rolein this game.
Knowing that role is not the same a alignment, I do believe Nacho is indeed a blocking role. Either jailkeeper as he claims or roleblocker. I believe he is of Mafia alignment.
Pulindar claiming the one shot cop is a conundrum. Can you please fullclaim, with flavour, and paraphrase of your role? I firmly believe that you're not making it up, thus your claim in my point of view is valid. I believe you're Town. I just need clarification of how you're exclusively linked to the Reaper role (which is non-standard btw, not in the MafiaWiki).
I know I'm Town. Based on Night Actions, ReaperCharlie is very likely Town. Based on gameplay, both ReaperCharlie and Pulindar are Town-ish. That leaves only Nacho and Rhinox left at Mafia.
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