Mini 1145 — Plain Mafia (over)

[Valern]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. AHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
























Just kidding. I'm town.

Originally I was gonna say I was gonna twiddle my thumbs for a couple days and think about it, but... nah.

VOTE: ICE

ICE isn't town. No way, no how.

[RangeroftheNorth]

Thank you, thank you very much.

[Valern]

Nuh-uh.

Really?

[RangeroftheNorth]

Really

[Valern]

Well damn. Grats, I guess.

[crazypianist1116]

GG!!

[crazypianist1116]

Ranger I love you. Great end game, really.

[DarthYoshi]

...

My strongest townread was scum?

Excuse me for a minute.

MOTHERF***ER.

Okay.

Good game, scum. RotN played excellently.

Crazy needs to stop drawing scum in games that Valern and I are in.

Thanks for modding, Fenhl and Zodiark. I was wondering...why was a game with this setup a night start?

Scum--QT, please?

[ICEninja]

Exactly as I said. If he's scum, he deserves to win.

He did lurk pretty well, though. He flew under the radar, he bused just enough but not too much.

You a roleblocker as I thought?

[ICEninja]

I really had no hope, Valern tunneled on me so hard despite having been quite wrong about his day 1 tunneling. Once Ranger pointed out that Valern said he was prodded on his first post, I instantly knew town had lost because there wasn't any hope at all of me convincing Valern that I was town, and that was simply all I needed to know Valern was town.

I actually wish I noticed that gem earlier in the game. It could have saved us. Too bad it was scum that found the biggest town tell.

I'm a little disappointed in myself, though. This is two games in a row where I simply wrote off scum as obvtown. I think I seriously need to reconsider some of my scum hunting.

[RangeroftheNorth]

I was actually just a goon. It was pretty awesome. Valern actually pointed it out when you said you were prodded Day 2, and I realized that he was right, and that it also applied to you. It eliminated both of you as PRs by day 2, as well as Quilford. I guessed Peabody for the vig over DRK, particularly because of the kill on Pine, but it made a lot of difference in choosing to kill EA.

[ICEninja]

Valern, I believe you need to eat your hat. For the third time this game.

I'll have to eat mine too, though, on account of Quilford.

And damnit, I really wish I never pointed that out. I didn't even realize that it would tell people that I was a VT when I made that post. It was a careless mistake fueled by irritation at being prodded. I'm virtually never prodded.

I probably would have been a much better player at a different time of the year. I wasn't kidding about the time around Easter being absolutely nuts.

[Pine]

GOD DAMN IT.

I called both scum

[Pine]

*CP and Ranger. InHim surprised me.

[Peabody]

If he's scum, he deserves to win.

Meh. It looked like you were giving Ranger a free pass just because he played well, but oh well.

I was really hoping you guys wouldn't write off Ranger as possible scum which seemed to be the case most of the game. I have wondered about him because he hasn't been scrutinized like the other players. He played it well.

Also about those PMs, I was wondering if ICE was feigning his prod on Day 2, so I just used it as a nulltell. I feel like ICEscum is capable and sneaky enough to do that. Nonetheless, I didn't like the prodding system just because using game mechanics to pinpoint scum just seems unfair.

Oh well. Good games, all!

[Pine]

Peabody, I feel I owe you an apology.

[ICEninja]

I feel like ICEscum is capable and sneaky enough to do that.

God no. I'm never kidding when I say I'm awful scum. I've been the day 1 lynch every time.

[Valern]

My "towntell" on Peabody was 100% gambit, btw. I was just

that

confident in my townread on Peabody. It was convenient for me that the only person to see through it and really push me on the point (DY) died soon afterward.

I am pretty good at figuring out who is town. I am a lot worse at figuring out who is scum. (And it didn't help that I'm in multiple other games on another account, so my time was stretched thinner than it should have been.)

I wish I was better at convincing people of my town reads. It took me posting a huge freaking wall (that included reads I was mostly wrong about) of why Peabody was town to change anyone's opinions there, and I wasn't able to convince anyone Quilford was town, which was probably mostly because my town-read on him was almost pure gut when it came down to it.

I also apologize to ICE for tunnelling on him so hard the last few days. =( There are quite a few things I considered scumtells that I need to ... not consider scumtells any more. (Although ^^^ that, above, was one reason in a long list that made me think he was more likely scum. Pointing out during the course of a game that you're terrible scum does not look good.)

Does anyone have any suggestions/advice for me?

[DarthYoshi]

In fairness to ICE, both times he was rope-a-doped by scum acting obvtown, it was by SUPER AWESOME scum.

(and, I totally fell for RotN's town act too. Glad I had picked up on CP and inHim as scum before I was NKed, but wow, I was off on Trendall and Valern.)

Also meant to say that I actually really enjoyed playing in this game for the brief time you scumjerks left me alive! I'd happily play with any of y'all again (even Trendall, if he promises to participate for realsies next time).

Valern, you having to convince people that Peabody was town was probably my fault in no small part. I screwed that one up for you.

[RangeroftheNorth]

Well, you basically disregarded me as scum far too early. Even day 4, you didn't consider that I might be scum. There were a couple of times when Ice pointed out things like Crazy's self hammer and the prod notices that applied to both you and him, but not to me. Crazy DIDN'T self-hammer before his scum-buddy was on the wagon, and Ice made that point exactly, but neither of you ever applied it to me. Both of you had received prods right as the day started and I never had, but only Ice applied that to me, and only after I basically pointed it out.

I'm really not entirely sure why you and Ice and even DRK had such a strong town read on me, but I took advantage of it. Bussing crazy probably helped a lot, but it seemed pretty likely he was going down that day anyway, and I started the bandwagon on him because it seemed inevitable.

Scum QT is here.

[Valern]

I'm very glad to know I was considered for the scum kill a few times. That means I couldn't have been doing

that

badly.

Range, any suggestions for my earlier play? I feel like I'm really bad at D1, and that set me up to be suspected and somewhat on the defensive for the rest of the game.

[ICEninja]

I'm pretty good at not getting lynched, when I'm town. Unfortunately, I keep making it to lylo and screwing things up.

In fact, now that I think about it, I almost never win if I'm taken to lylo. I'm always wrong or the lynch. Only once did I get to a 3-scum-left-lylo, called out the entire scum team, and won. That was good days for ICEninja.

Alas, my losing streak continues. Once upon a time I had a positive win/loss ratio.

[Zodiark13]

ICEninja,

Vanilla Townie

has been lynched.

RangeroftheNorth, crazypianist1116 and inHimshallibe have won.

Roles:
Romanus — Mafia Goon
lynchking — Vanilla Townie
Klazam — Vanilla Townie
ICEninja — Vanilla Townie
Trendall — Vanilla Townie
Lucresia — Vanilla Townie
Erratus Apathos — Compulsive Town Doctor
RangeroftheNorth — Mafia Goon
Peabody — Vanilla Townie
Valern — Vanilla Townie
DeathRowKitty — Two-Shot Town Vigilante
Pine — Town Tracker
AMP — Mafia Goon

Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/iXpPVDakAATw

[DarthYoshi]

Zodiark, do you have a record of night actions? Thanks again for stepping in to mod.

[Zodiark13]

The only night actions I have are DRKs, and that he killed Pine N2.