Ok, starting from where I first called Umbrage out as being a jester (which I still believe... which Haylen has refused to answer), here are my thoughts:
Beginning of #194: Pulindar apologizes. I don't like when people apologize. Townies have no reason to apologize, I usually just see them get angry when people call them out on stuff for stupid reasons. Scum are more likely to try NOT to be called out on stuff by pre-emptively apologizing. Especially if it's for something little.
Something about #194 I don't like. he just apologized again. Not really feeling the scumhunting in this post, it's more of a "look here's a wall, now everybody write me off as town, k?" kind of feeling. I admit I am overly suspicious of this kind of thing given the outcome of POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA (where I wrote a wallposter off as town and though I nailed 2/3 of the other scum in record time, I missed him, and mislynched like 3 other guys trying to find the last scum). It was embarrassing.
Thoughts1. These seem to always form, though usually they are even more informal than the suggested idea
2. They generally tend to blind a few players, but do either force scum to capitulate to town demands or to give themselves away
3. They seem to only really work when there is only one scum group or at least no third party. I don't believe this is the case.
4. Because I know Cathryn, I feel that there are multiple groups and odd win conditions. Simple scum versus town doesn't make sense to me. Thus, I am against the alliance.
Now this part has some merit. I take back my suspicion for now.
5. I reserve the right to change my mind later after night occurs.
Dam# it, suspicion just came back.
1. You said the numbers would decrease, how?
2. I assume that the alliance will be discussing their choices for the day in general chat?
3. You said that the alliance should be less than half, what is the reason for that?
4. The way I understand it, the leader merely is the most vocal in which direction s/he thinks the group should go, the position seems informal?
Numbers decrease as in, we kick the scummiest people out as the days drag on. Since we can't lynch people in the alliance, we kick them out of the alliance so that our voting pool stays populated AND so that scummy people are being considered for lynch, regardless of previous alliance "membership". This also helps the alliance from tunnelling and losing to scum burrowed deep within the alliance.
Yes, all Alliance stuff happens right here, in plain view of everyone... but WHY ARE YOU ASKING THIS?! ITS AGAINST THE RULES TO TALK ANYWHERE ELSE.
The alliance should be less than half so that the numbers in our voting pool stays strong. plus, we don't ever want the alliance to become a majority. that way, it allows scum to quickhammer people left and right with 100% impunity ("oh wait, the alliance told me to, kekekeke").
Yes, the Alliance "Leader" is no more of an alliance member than anyone else.
Umbrage wrote:ReaperCharlie wrote:Also, he is not acting like I've ever seen him act before.
Dude, I'm unreadable. I never stick with a single style. Anyway, what do you think of tans?
Unreadable. HAH.
Umbrage wrote:Pul wrote:Some of it is in part due to his desire to limit discussion I am sure, but most is purely his unfriendly style
That's a laugh. I've done more to spark REAL discussion than anyone.
Looking for town cred for that?
I still think you're a jester.
Umbrage wrote:It's called groupthink. Google it. It fucking KILLS these games. Scum hides in the alliance and everybody's too chicken shit to try and root them out. I pointed it out then, and I'm pointing it out now. I've already lost a game because of idiot town pulling this shit.
You haven't read about how the alliance works then. Or at least, MY flavor of alliance. We root out our own scum. We just wait to do it until all of the non-alliance scum are gone first. Well, at least most of them.
Umbrage wrote:So, while the rest of you were busy playing alliance bullshit, I've been out finding scum. And I found one. His name is tanstalas. You can either kill him and win or undergo profound humiliation when I gloat profusely, JUST like in Execution.
Why is tanstalas scum?
Short punchy list. No links, no caps. Tell me why I should lynch him. If it's convincing enough, he may get my vote. I am sick of this argument between you two, and I sure as heck am not going to lynch someone I think is a jester, on Day 1.
tanstalas wrote:Aaaand again you ignore/dodge Umbrage. Gratz on not having more votes on you by now. There is a REASON you have more votes than anyone else, and that is because you have been the most scummy.
If you are town, I would be at a loss to know who is scum. You are not a good information lynch. Though, if you are scum, Zod is your buddy most likely
Would you lynch Umbrage even with my heavy suspicions that he is a Jester?
I only got to 196. curses.
LOL I have a long ways to go.