Mini1147-Royal Mafia at the Round Table (Game Over!)

[Quilford]

There's no way we have TSscum

Explain.

While you're at it state your thoughts on Maxous.

why would he need to bus his partner

rereading maxous

[Maxous]

Just skimmed as I'm kind of low on time.
I will answer farside about TS tomorrow. As far as I remember it was his reaction to Ender's claim and his thoughtline about how to find mafia was consistent.(with his 'X is bad for the town', 'Y is good for the town' set of rules etc.) I'll elaborate next time.

@Prosaurus: Why is Farside scummy?

@Duplicity: Have you explained why I am mafia? I don't remember it.

[farside22]

I can't believe I have to make a case on a player who's already been lynched ¬_¬

can't we just say I suspected him on gut, lurking or PoE?

It didn't matter to me ehy I suspected him when I submitted my investigation, but the fact that I did suspect him

What's your case on me then?

[neil1113]

Vote Count #3.5:
Day Three

farside22

(3) Quilford, Maxous, Twistedspoon

Maxous

(2): Locke Lamora, Duplicity

Twistedspoon

(1): farside22

Duplicity

(0):

Locke Lamora

(0):

Quilford

(0):

Prosaurus

(0):

Rhinox

(0):

No Lynch

(0):

Not Voting

(2): Prosaurus, Rhinox

V/LA

(0):

Prodding:

(1): Locke Lamora

With

8

alive, it takes

5

to lynch.

Deadline

for Day 3 is

9:00 PM EST 05/16/11.

Which reminder, is only

5

days away.

[Rhinox]

hey sorry for failing and not keeping up well today. I see deadline is incoming so I'm making this game my top priority. I know farside asked me a question not sure if anyone else did. I'll get get to it and figure out who I'm voting. I'm mostly considering maxous, duplicity, and farside. I'm still hung up about farside being the scum setup mislynch today. Locke is ruled out as scum with with maxous and duplicity - maxous for case today, duplicity for EA vs Oso yesterday. Locke/farside is really the only option for locke scum. Maybe Locke/Prosaurus. Maxous and Duplicity are both POE + avoiding taking a stance on TS vs. NE until maxous voted late in the day.

[farside22]

I'm still waiting for Maxous to explain his town read of TS and TS to actually make a case.

[Prosaurus]

Sorry I forgot to post today. No time now, but I'll post tomorrow morning (As it's Saturday).

[farside22]

We have 3 days. I just looked and noted that Maxous was plenty active yesterday but avoiding this game.
I know I'm town and a no lynch doesn't help. I'm pretty certain TS is scum. He's gone too and posting elsewhere.

unvote:
vote: Maxous

[Twistedspoon]

I'm pretty certain TS is scum. He's gone too and posting elsewhere.

that's because I'm in other games, obv

if the only thing you have is that you don't like my vote on you and that I'm posting elsewhere then I'm still very much liking your lynch
also, I'm dead in my other mini normal so should have more time for this one. Quilly knows that already though.

Still liking my farside vote. Other players might be easier to lynch, but I don't think they're the scum. Farside lynch>lynch>no lynch

[Maxous]

Wow, sorry did'nt realise the deadline was so close. I'll get working on this game tonight (from now-ish).
Don't want to decide the lynch at the last minute(not a good idea from previous experience).. I just wanna go back over some things first.

[Quilford]

TS ISN'T SCUM FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT HE HAD NO NEED TO FAKECLAIM A PR AND BUS HIS SCUMBUDDY

jeez

[Maxous]

Took too long unfortunatly, I'll have to explain in detail tomorrow (I know.. deadline)

It is unlikely TS and NE were bussing each-other Day 1. TS is likely town.
I have a strong town read on Erratus and Locke.
I have a town read on Oso, not so much on Duplicity. However, I still think that slot is town.
Quilford is confirmed.

2 of Farside/Rhinox/Prosaurus

We have to successfully lynch twice out of 3 lynches. Lynch those 3 and I beleive we will get the mafia team.
My first suggestion is Farside and Rhinox due to some of NE's comments towards Prosaurus trying to shove suspicion on him for weak reasons while Farside's and Rhinox's interactions with NE almost seemed like casual discussion rather than scumhunting or NE putting suspicion on either of them. Particulary Farside and NE.
I have a small feeling Rhinox was being a bit over the top with his convincement that NE is mafia after the guilty with his 'classic scum tell here' 'omg this is so scummy' etc.
Rhinox and Farside's interactions on Day 2 was interesting and particulary from Farside's side really did'nt seem genuine trying to accuse Rhinox of double standards when he clearly was'nt and questioning why he suddenly switched his mind about TS when there was a good reason for a switch.
Hmm yeah I could be wrong about Rhinox but I'm confident about Farside.

I'm content with my vote.

It's hard to explain why I thought TS was town on Day 1, i just did. I seen his posts as genuine even if they were'nt elaborate. Simply a gut read I guess.. I just found him to be consistent in the way he approached the game and tried to see if people were mafia.
And yeah, his reaction to Ender's claim and behavious afterwards looks like he actually has the same role as Ender. I beleive his claim.

[Prosaurus]

Since nothing's happening, I'd like to vote Farside.
VOTE: farside22
That's L-1 incase no one's noticed.

[farside22]

Just a townie here. I'm sure the claim will have me lynched.

I also see that TS totally missed my case on him and didn't make a case on me.

[Duplicity]

@Duplicity: Have you explained why I am mafia? I don't remember it.

It's predominanly PoE combined with the fact that you were both G and I's biggest FoS when reading through the thread.

I'm going to step in here. I'm starting to get town-farside vibes. Rhinox is town. Pros is town. Quildford is town. Locke is likely town. We're lynching Twisted or Maxous today. End of, so I suggest someone moves their vote.

[Prosaurus]

@Duplicity If we're lynching either of those two, I say Max. TS got scum lynched, and I don't see why he'd bus(That is scum lynching scum right?).

[Twistedspoon]

I'm going to step in here. I'm starting to get town-farside vibes. Rhinox is town. Pros is town. Quildford is town. Locke is likely town. We're lynching Twisted or Maxous today. End of, so I suggest someone moves their vote.

This is very interesting from you duplicity

the last time you mentioned farside you said

My base reads on these players are as follows:
5.

Locke - Slight Town.

6.

Farside - Slight Scum

7.

Maxous - Slight Town

8.

TwistedSpoon - Slight Scum

what has caused to to change you mind so late?

Also, can I ask you how would scumflips from Maxous or Farside change your reads.
Thanks

[Twistedspoon]

actually, you've changed you maxous read too it seems from my quotes above

what has caused this?

[Twistedspoon]

in case I get the NK tonight, I'll try and get some reads up

[Duplicity]

what has caused to to change you mind so late?

Sure, the recent town-tells I've gotten from farside include:
1. Her agreement in the fact that you're mafia, which is something I'm having difficulty shacking, ie. I don't think she'd buss you in this position.
2. Her lack of fight in preventing her lynch in this post reads as a town-tell, given the situation at the moment.
3. I read meta-research like the one shes done in this post as a town-tell.

Also, can I ask you how would scumflips from Maxous or Farside change your reads.

1. Farside scum-flip would lead me to re-read the entire game for a reassesment.
2. Maxous scum-flip would lead me to instant vote you tommorow.

actually, you've changed you maxous read too it seems from my quotes above. what has caused this?

As I previously stated it's mostly PoE related.

I'll try and get some reads up

Yes. Please. Do. This.

[Twistedspoon]

hmm your farside town tells do seem somewhat genuine...

I'm having difficult imaginging Rhinox scum
and Unless prosaurus pulled of a very clever newb-town bluff with the daytalk thing, i don't see him flipping scu
Quilly is confirmed town
Locke is behaving townie enough, I have a better town read on him that I did EA. The slot is probably town. scum wouldn't tunnel as blantantly as EA did anyways I don't think
Which leaves me with Duplicity, Farside and Maxous. i remember Juls suspected maxous D1. without going into too much wifom, this could affect my read.

does anyone object if I try some VCA?

[farside22]

does anyone object if I try some VCA?

I just used Rhinox post here
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3014523

To get an idea of the VCA.

[Quilford]

UNVOTE:
I now want a Maxous or LL lynch more than I do a farside lynch.

[farside22]

UNVOTE:
I now want a Maxous or LL lynch more than I do a farside lynch.

I'm sorry I'm a bit behind. Is there a reason you find LL scummy?

[Quilford]

Rhinox made an excellent case. Let me find a link.

... you linked to it three posts prior?