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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:48 pm

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VOTE: Ellibereth for the bus

let's get me some town cred, folks
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Post Post #25 (isolation #1) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:52 am

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Ellibereth is avoiding me on purpose, confirm vote, time to win this game singlehandedly.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #2) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:54 am

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Post Post #47 (isolation #3) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:49 pm

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It's 10:48 now.

BETTER BE SOMETHING IN 12 MINUTES

OR LYNCH ALL LIARS

PIKASCUM
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Post Post #89 (isolation #4) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:24 pm

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bobsnox hates to be scum, so if he replaces out we can safely vote his slot until it swings from the scum-killing-tree

just an fyi
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Post Post #90 (isolation #5) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:26 pm

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AlmasterGM wrote:Softclaiming an investigation? It's Day 1.

And yes, if you don't think you can keep up, please replace out. I have seen your posts across the forum in general and you almost never post more than 2-3 lines. If you are highly involved with and analyzing the game then short posts are fine, but you aren't, so that is only going to be an extremely annoying detriment.


BECAUSE WALLPOSTS ARE FUN TO READ
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Post Post #92 (isolation #6) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:11 pm

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yeah a lot of people hate RVS because they prefer not to have to force themselves to be casual; they want to get into pointless semantic arguments so they can nail someone for a verbal slip-up

we call that lot of people "scumlors"

Ellibereth where are the random statistics, broski?
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Post Post #94 (isolation #7) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:21 pm

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1 yep
2 cuz RVS is a pure mirror into alignment and that terrifies scum
3 lolumad
4 I was attacking you waaaaat
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Post Post #95 (isolation #8) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:23 pm

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so what's the +5 about, am I a magical weapon? am I vorpal? Will I vig you at night for being scum?
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Post Post #98 (isolation #9) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:35 pm

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vollkan wrote:wall-e post


I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.

MD thread?

Uh, I dunno, more than 0? I don't keep statistics...that's Ellibereth's job (ps he's not doing it now! Either his meta changed or he is scum! Inclusive disjunction!)

Serious question? Do you want me to speculate on a counterfactual? If x, then answer y; if ~x, then answer z. Well, I said x, right? So why am I answering z? I'm not. Obviously.

I wish I could be as naive as you, thinking every argument in this game has been substantive so far.

so what do you do when you're scum? Roll a die? How do you add points to reads when you're lying through your teeth? How does one fake a scumread with such mathematical precision? I'm curious, because I want to know how you do it. In theory. If you ever were scum, and, say, got really upset by some offhand remarks and gave someone, I dunno, let's say, +5 on your scumometer. In that unlikely series of events, how would you BS your way to that?

you also didn't answer my last question ;_;
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Post Post #99 (isolation #10) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:36 pm

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Ellibereth wrote:
Acosmist wrote:yeah a lot of people hate RVS because they prefer not to have to force themselves to be casual; they want to get into pointless semantic arguments so they can nail someone for a verbal slip-up

we call that lot of people "scumlors"

Ellibereth where are the random statistics, broski?


Hm?
Oh that game...oh my that game. I usually don't do that shit.


Oh all right, but you were town and you did it! What are you usually? SK? Mafia? Jester?
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Post Post #111 (isolation #11) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:16 am

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vollkan wrote:(other than Acos's rather embarrassing quasi-trolling effort...)


aw I embarrassed you
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Post Post #114 (isolation #12) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:32 am

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Kwanton wrote:hm dunno what to think about sleepy backing off but
unvote
for now.

thats really the only big thing i've seen so far. both cases against MPR and Vollkan were weak to begin with and both their defenses make sense. Agree that acomist is
just trolling
at this point. But troll doesnt equal scum.


Oh yeah, how would you know that? You apparently have some reason for knowing that the people I have suggested are scum are actually town?

Interesting! How did you figure this out? Did you look at the roster of your quicktopic and fail to see those names on it?
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Post Post #116 (isolation #13) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:23 am

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kiwieagle wrote:Sigh.
What does a question have to do with someone being mad acomist?


What question and who's mad?

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/acosmist /spelling brotip
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Post Post #118 (isolation #14) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:29 am

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kiwieagle wrote:
vollkan wrote:
Acosmist wrote:
yeah a lot of people hate RVS because they prefer not to have to force themselves to be casual; they want to get into pointless semantic arguments so they can nail someone for a verbal slip-up

we call that lot of people "scumlors"


Acosmist+5


1) You are saying having a meta dislike of RVS automatically makes a person scum?
2) If yes, why?
3) If no - then suppose a player with said dislike read AGM's post and thought "Hmm, that sounds like a good idea". What should they do?
4) Why are you pulling "pointless semantic arguments so they can nail someone for a verbal slip-up" out of your arse? I don't think I've done that at all this game, so inserting it in your attack just seems to be a way to make me seem scummy for no basis whatsoever


1 yep
2 cuz RVS is a pure mirror into alignment and that terrifies scum
3 lolumad
4 I was attacking you waaaaat



This is what I meant.
Dont assign emotions to people, without reason.
You didnt even answer his question,
all you said is
lolumad


How can you not see that my answer to question 1 mooted that question?

Do you get conditionals?

Do you comprehend them?

I don't like talking about possible worlds that are not relevant. I'm keeping to a pretty tight similarity sphere. Otherwise we'd have enormous wallposts that would waste my time and annoy everyone else.
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Post Post #119 (isolation #15) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:31 am

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Imagine a series of questions like this:

1. Are you a cop?
2. If so, whom did you investigate last night?
3. If not, who do you think is the cop?

Now imagine the answers are:

1. Yes
2. [some player]
3. No answer

Would you then criticize the guy for not answering question 3?

I hope not. I hope I don't have to explain such basic things to you! I think I might! It might be one of those games!
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Post Post #120 (isolation #16) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:33 am

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For three

from wayyyyy downtown!

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/u-mad

bobnsox plz post, I've seen you lurking for like a day in this forum
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Post Post #124 (isolation #17) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:43 am

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DeathNote wrote:What you guys are talking about really doesn't pertain to anything nor does it give anyone real reads.


Noted. You don't want people posting content.
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Post Post #127 (isolation #18) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:50 am

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DeathNote wrote:
Acosmist wrote:
DeathNote wrote:What you guys are talking about really doesn't pertain to anything nor does it give anyone real reads.


Noted. You don't want people posting content.


You can shove that noted up your ass cause that is not what i said at all. The arguement does not help anyone get any readable content into this game.


How on earth do you know that?


unvote, Vote: DeathNote
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Post Post #128 (isolation #19) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:51 am

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Your ISO is the worst thing I have seen since Unkept Irishmen in Final Fantasy.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #20) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:01 pm

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Voting scum seems to be the right way to play this game.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #21) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:43 pm

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vollkan wrote:
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:We've driven this shenanigan far enough.

Unvote; Vote: Kwanton


Reason?

--
Acosmist v DeathNote just reads like a reasonable response from DeathNote to trolling. Null alignment-wise for both of them.


Wave your hands! Dismiss it! It's just trolling!

"If I keep saying that, the bad man will go away and I won't have to answer the laundry list of questions I left hanging!"

Observant people: note the contradiction between this latest post and one further back. You'll see the one.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #22) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:48 pm

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DeathNote wrote:
Acosmist wrote:
DeathNote wrote:What you guys are talking about really doesn't pertain to anything nor does it give anyone real reads.


Noted. You don't want people posting content.


You can shove that noted up your ass cause that is not what i said at all.


"reasonable"

yep that's the first word that comes to mind

"reasonable"
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Post Post #145 (isolation #23) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:57 pm

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vollkan wrote:Pretty sure I answered every question you have asked me.


Acosmist wrote:Will I vig you at night for being scum?


Acosmist wrote:you also didn't answer my last question ;_;


*gasp* In a previous post I called it "quasi-trolling" and now I am calling it "trolling".


No, I was talking about the magical -5 that I got somewhere along the line...but ok, Mr Guilty Conscience!

I can see why people think you're a god at this game - you get right to the core issues :roll:


What people?

Hey look at you, waving your hands some mooooar

Then we agree :D


unvote, vote: vollkan
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Post Post #146 (isolation #24) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:00 pm

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You outright did not answer one question, even after being reminded, and your answer to another was more fallacious than a DNC talking point, so hey:

this point system you have

What happens when you are scum? Walk me through exactly how you utilize it as scum.
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Post Post #169 (isolation #25) » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:21 am

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DeathNote wrote:Seriously... is there anyone Aco doesn't argue with?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game)

Just in case you wanted to know what Mafia is.
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Post Post #172 (isolation #26) » Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:03 am

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AlmasterGM wrote:You're focusing a lot on bobsnox. Do you know him from somewhere, or something?


Yes.

But what does that matter? I saw him on about 10 straight times, reading this forum, and not posting here (nor elsewhere in Coney Island). That's the definition of lurking.

Y U MAKE ME BE OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY?

It also helps to have bobsnox post, because he is unable to avoid wearing his alignment on his sleeve. If he posts. Of course, he knows I'm in this game and would recognize his scumtells instantly, so the thought came to my mind that he was avoiding posting so he wouldn't have to answer any uncomfortable questions from me ("Why are you scum?" "Should we lynch you today or vig you tonight?" "HAVE YOU STOPPED BEATING YOUR WIFE?" &c.).

And for the record, he needs to post more. One wall post every few days is not as helpful as constant engagement with the game

mostly because reading wallposts is the worst thing ever, and I'm not doing it.
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Post Post #173 (isolation #27) » Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:06 am

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And man, meta is like, the best thing ever. A meta on bobsnox will detect his alignment 100% of the time. I even did meta on people as scum in a newbie game here (last summer I think?) and it was funny how accurate it was. I even told a townie to stop barning my scumbuddy, because if he was scum, she would have been utterly fooled. And she was!

META IS LAW
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Post Post #188 (isolation #28) » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:21 pm

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vollkan wrote:
Acos wrote: Will I vig you at night for being scum?


That's the question that you are hand-wringing over me not answering? :|

Acos wrote:
No, I was talking about the magical -5 that I got somewhere along the line...but ok, Mr Guilty Conscience!


I explained why you got +5. What is the contradiction?


Sure, why not? I don't get why you think my questions are less than fully serious. I mean, there's ONE reason you could PURPORT to misunderstand them...

Is your read on me null or 55? Null is 50, ain't it?
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Post Post #189 (isolation #29) » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:21 pm

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bobsnox wrote:
Acosmist wrote:
AlmasterGM wrote:You're focusing a lot on bobsnox. Do you know him from somewhere, or something?


Yes.

But what does that matter? I saw him on about 10 straight times, reading this forum, and not posting here (nor elsewhere in Coney Island). That's the definition of lurking.
yeah sorry. I would check all the threads I'm in but I was only really paying attention to the others at the time.
Acosmist wrote:A meta on bobsnox will detect his alignment 100% of the time.
lol yeah but I would say I have a different meta here than at VT.

anyway, join our Sleepy wagon? we can pick between DN and Kwanton tomorrow


well, you don't

I think deep down you know that, bro.
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Post Post #190 (isolation #30) » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:23 pm

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vollkan wrote:
SleepyKrew wrote:
vollkan wrote:
Sleepy wrote:
The "tunneling from one player to the next" is how I play. I usually end up tunneling every player at least once. Now I'm off to figure out my next target.


1) Do you have other examples of you playing that way?
2) Similarly, asking somebody to contribute hardly qualifies as "tunnelling". If what you're saying is that you play a game of whack-a-mole with lurkerks (voting each one in turn until they say something), that's not at all a productive way to play.

1. My only completed game is a newbie game, and my playstyle hadn't developed into the tunneling until after the game. But I have mentioned this style in other games.
2. That wasn't tunneling. It was pressure.
Off to read Kwanton.


On 1), maybe I am misunderstanding you, but it seems to be completely misleading to claim that you "play" a certain way, when you don't appear to have any track record of playing that way. Please quote for me where you "mention" this playstyle. Needless to say, my BS-senses are tingling.


this is an absurdly good point, please explain ScummyKrew
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Post Post #197 (isolation #31) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:18 am

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SleepyKrew wrote:I do indeed have a record of playing this way. I wasn't aware I could quote ongoing games. I'll go find the stuff now.


When it takes an inadmissible discussion to support the reliability of evidence, there's really no point introducing that evidence.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #32) » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:58 am

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You seem very nervous, ScummyKrew.
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Post Post #239 (isolation #33) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:02 am

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Leiskyrie wrote:Uh...internet keeps disconnecting so I can't go back and read what's been happening.

But
unvote
for now due to claim.


So you believe the claim?

Further, even if you believe the claim, do you think that makes Sleepy town all of a sudden?


if only he had explained that his internet keeps disconnecting
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Post Post #240 (isolation #34) » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:05 am

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AlmasterGM wrote:Hmm. Can you jail yourself?

If you agree to jail someone we tell you to, I might be okay with letting you live.


What was the point of that question?
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Post Post #258 (isolation #35) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:10 am

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SleepyKrew wrote:A massnameclaim could lead to PR outing, because the main characters would likely be PRs. This is why I didn't suggest it.


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Post Post #259 (isolation #36) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:10 am

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Ellibereth wrote:
SleepyKrew wrote:A massnameclaim could lead to PR outing, because the main characters would likely be PRs. This is why I didn't suggest it.


a.k.a we should do it tomorrow.


Yes.

But then why did you let him self-hammer?
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Post Post #263 (isolation #37) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:39 am

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Ellibereth wrote:
Acosmist wrote:
Ellibereth wrote:
SleepyKrew wrote:A massnameclaim could lead to PR outing, because the main characters would likely be PRs. This is why I didn't suggest it.


a.k.a we should do it tomorrow.


Yes.

But then why did you let him self-hammer?


huhwut.
how is that related at all.
and yeah we should massnameclaim.


Oh, I dunno, the mafia has had a whole damn night to work on their fakeclaims thanks to that.

Massnameclaim, I choose you!
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Post Post #264 (isolation #38) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:40 am

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So tell me how a mafia jailkeeper works.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #39) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:07 am

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Katsuki wrote:Same as a town jailkeeper.


And I suppose a mafia vigilante would be...?
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Post Post #268 (isolation #40) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:08 am

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Nameclaim. Absolutely friggin' essential. If you don't vote for a mass nameclaim you need to have a damn good reason, and it had better be in your next post. Or I'm voting you.
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Post Post #278 (isolation #41) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:37 am

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Katsuki wrote:
Acosmist wrote:
Katsuki wrote:Same as a town jailkeeper.


And I suppose a mafia vigilante would be...?


The same as a town vigilante, except scum. :D

They exist you know.


Yeah games with jesters also exist

and town traitors
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Post Post #280 (isolation #42) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:14 am

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Guys, popcorn
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Post Post #282 (isolation #43) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:29 am

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Link.
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Post Post #285 (isolation #44) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:39 am

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Katsuki wrote:Any PYP games.
And Storm of Kings, mafia had a one-shot dayvig.

Go look them up.


Uh, it's YOUR evidence, why don't you SHOW me?

YOUR HONOR THERE IS PROOF OUT THERE THAT MY CLIENT IS INNOCENT IF ONLY YOU'D SEND A GUY AROUND LOOKING FOR IT

yeah no.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #45) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:43 am

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Corporal Lili Frond

popcorn kiwi
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Post Post #290 (isolation #46) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:44 am

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who claimed <_< ugh

Meh? did he?
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Post Post #294 (isolation #47) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:52 am

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<_< has everyone claimed? If not then gtfo with the voting
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Post Post #296 (isolation #48) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:04 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Acosmist wrote:<_< has everyone claimed? If not then gtfo with the voting


God dammit, if Kwanton wasn't so scum I'd be voting you right now.

This fucking post plus your scummy ass interactions with Kats, feigning ignorance about "Mafia Jailkeeper" is just WAY too fake.


Not just fake, not just too fake, but WAY too fake

ok champ, cry some moar

I tend to think ways to catch scum should be pursued instead of forgotten. See, e.g., Simpsons mafia and Steve's action. (right bobsnox?)
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Post Post #297 (isolation #49) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:05 pm

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Feigning ignorance? You realize a jailkeeper is a roleblocking doctor, right? What kind of silliness would a MAFIA roleblocking doctor be? What's the point of it? You can roleblock someone, but you gotta protect him! Nonsense.

Feigning ignorance. Trollfaces will be posted when I flip, bro.
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Post Post #300 (isolation #50) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:10 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Acosmist wrote:Feigning ignorance? You realize a jailkeeper is a roleblocking doctor, right? What kind of silliness would a MAFIA roleblocking doctor be? What's the point of it? You can roleblock someone, but you gotta protect him! Nonsense.

Feigning ignorance. Trollfaces will be posted when I flip, bro.


You do realize that mafia jailkeeper works just like a roleblocker, because the scum know who they are killing?

So it's not like the scum are going to be killing who they roleblock. This isn't Brotherhood of the Wolf mafia. (I giggled a little)

So basically, the reasoning you just gave is exactly WHY there exists a Mafia Roleblocking Doctor. So people who try to outguess the mod on setup get burned.

But this is a weak defense, regardless of the above point. You can hang from the highest tree in the town at any time now.


So you're saying

seriously

you're saying the jailkeeper is just like a roleblocker

well that's silly, isn't it

calling a roleblocker something else

so anyway, you wanna adduce some evidence for this or what?

"weak defense" of what?
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Post Post #301 (isolation #51) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:12 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Acosmist wrote:
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Acosmist wrote:<_< has everyone claimed? If not then gtfo with the voting


God dammit, if Kwanton wasn't so scum I'd be voting you right now.

This fucking post plus your scummy ass interactions with Kats, feigning ignorance about "Mafia Jailkeeper" is just WAY too fake.


Not just fake, not just too fake, but WAY too fake

ok champ, cry some moar

I tend to think ways to catch scum should be pursued instead of forgotten. See, e.g., Simpsons mafia and Steve's action. (right bobsnox?)


Please tell me how you intend to catch scum with your interaction with Kats.

And if you really wanna catch scum, why are you so against voting? Did I vote your scumbuddy or something?


I hear that lynching all liars is some good!

Hey, did the flipped scum flip mafia roleblocker? Isn't that what you said he was? WHOA casting doubt on your scumhunting now!

Is there any indication I don't want to catch scum?

I'm against voting because there needs to be no distractions from the nameclaiming so mafia can claim NOW, without any time to think about it. It's absolute nonsense to let them squirm out.

Nope. Again, you get another trollface for this when I flip.

Also, lol you
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Post Post #303 (isolation #52) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:14 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:And if you really wanna catch scum, why are you so against voting?


non sequitur

If someone protested that, hey, lynch or lose is not the best time to vote carelessly, would you infer they don't want to catch scum because they didn't want people to vote?

Voting distracts from the BEST scumhunting method we have at this particular moment. The moment will pass and then, guess what? The game can continue and we can vote and talk about whatever! It's amazing!
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Post Post #305 (isolation #53) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:15 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:The weak defense is that you are trying to deflect my suspicions with idiotic and pointless setup discussion, and it's not going to work.

Fuck it.
Unvote; Vote: Acosmist


I don't care how fake Kwanton's roleclaim was, you're dying.


Vote: Lady Lambdadelta


Hi there! Kwanton is completely scum, but let's vote Acosmist instead!

successful troll is successful, scum
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Post Post #307 (isolation #54) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:15 pm

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bobsnox wrote:
Acosmist wrote:
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Acosmist wrote:<_< has everyone claimed? If not then gtfo with the voting


God dammit, if Kwanton wasn't so scum I'd be voting you right now.

This fucking post plus your scummy ass interactions with Kats, feigning ignorance about "Mafia Jailkeeper" is just WAY too fake.


Not just fake, not just too fake, but WAY too fake

ok champ, cry some moar

I tend to think ways to catch scum should be pursued instead of forgotten. See, e.g., Simpsons mafia and Steve's action. (right bobsnox?)

yep

This is not scumAcosmist. Like 85% sure. He's really good at reading me, but I'm not too bad at reading him.


hey, lady thinks Kwanton is scum, but she's voting me.

Might wanna pile on that until it flips red
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Post Post #308 (isolation #55) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:16 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So your argument is that by me voting... it'll distract from the name claiming.

Yah, no.

Also, please flail more. That "THERE WILL BE TROLL FACES WHEN I FLIP" comment isn't saving you. Appeal to Authority a LITTLE more, hmm?


To what authority am I appealing? Thomas Aquinas? Lord Blackstone?

Or do you possibly not know what that means, and you are getting into a discussion of logic with Acosmist :mrgreen:
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Post Post #312 (isolation #56) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:18 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:The weak defense is that you are trying to deflect my suspicions with idiotic and pointless setup discussion, and it's not going to work.

Fuck it.
Unvote; Vote: Acosmist


I don't care how fake Kwanton's roleclaim was, you're dying.


I don't care


I don't care


Image

WE'RE GONNA LYNCH TWO IN A ROW
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Post Post #314 (isolation #57) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:20 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:How about the authority of the town?

Or how about Bobsnox's authority?

@Bob: You realize that he's now applying self meta... right? If he can recognize a trait well enough for him to say "Hey Bob, I'm doing this~! That makes me town, right?", then he knows it well enough to fake it as scum. It should be a null read for you.


Do you know what an appeal to authority is? Do you comprehend what that fallacy is? It's really a variety of argumentum ad hominem - some authority is usually right; that authority agrees with me; therefore, I am right.

So to what authority am I appealing? "I, Acosmist, am right because X says I am right."

What's that X?
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Post Post #315 (isolation #58) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:20 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Bob, please elaborate on what is so bad about it?

Please explain why I am not allowed to think two people are scummy, separate of eachother, and vote one over the other because they are scumming it up?

You do realize we very likely have an SK, right?


An SK with a scumbuddy, eh?
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Post Post #318 (isolation #59) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:22 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:...

Is Acosmist usually this terribad?

Like, he's now ATTACKING MY RHETORIC. That's the king of all scum claims, man.


How bad will it make you feel when I flip town?

Will your tears be delicious?

can I lick the delicious sorrow from you?

lolattackingrhetoricinagamebasedonsayingwords

"I took the AP Calc test, and they took points off for bad math!"

"My English teacher is a grammar nazi!"
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Post Post #321 (isolation #60) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:25 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Acosmist wrote:
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Acosmist wrote:<_< has everyone claimed? If not then gtfo with the voting


God dammit, if Kwanton wasn't so scum I'd be voting you right now.

This fucking post plus your scummy ass interactions with Kats, feigning ignorance about "Mafia Jailkeeper" is just WAY too fake.


Not just fake, not just too fake, but WAY too fake

ok champ, cry some moar

I tend to think ways to catch scum should be pursued instead of forgotten.
See, e.g., Simpsons mafia and Steve's action. (right bobsnox?)


How about that authority?


Yeah, you don't know what appeal to authority is.
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Post Post #323 (isolation #61) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:25 pm

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Yeah, you're damn right that not caring who's scum and just voting me is a bad thing

r u srs lol
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Post Post #324 (isolation #62) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:26 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:If you flip town, my tears will be of joy, because then I won't have such a god damn detriment to town in the game anymore.

But I seriously doubt you will be flipping town, SO.


How am I hurting town? Tell me that. Like, real quick. Before I use the dayvig.
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Post Post #326 (isolation #63) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:28 pm

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If Kwanton's claim is fake, he's scum. Lynching him would be the best thing you could do. Why abandon your top scum read, whom you think has a completely fake claim, for me?

dumb
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Post Post #327 (isolation #64) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:29 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Ok Acosmist, you pretend to be the BIG EXPERT, ok?

You know... coming from the person who HAD TO ASK WHAT A MAFIA JAILKEEPER WAS.

Or, in my opinion, pretended. -shrug-


Expert on logic 101? Yeah I kinda am. You really want to press this?

You're using argumentum ad hominem to deflect here. "Acosmist didn't know what a mafia jailkeeper was, so how could he know what this other thing is? He's ignorant!"

Like, seriiiiiously...?
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Post Post #330 (isolation #65) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:31 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Because GUESS WHAT?

THE FLAVOR. IT MEANS NOTHING.

This setup was advertised as having "bastard flavor". So while I believe Kwanton is very likely scum, and I don't buy his claim for one second...

You are scummy for intent read reasons. and my intent read>>>>>> flavor/role name reads


Flavor means NOTHING?

o rly?

Didn't a villain flip scum?

lolowned
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Post Post #334 (isolation #66) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:33 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Uh huh.

Excuse me for a moment, while I go grab a quote FROM THE MOD.


Lemme grab a quote from you!

Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Because GUESS WHAT?

THE FLAVOR. IT MEANS NOTHING.


This setup was advertised as having "bastard flavor". So while I believe Kwanton is very likely scum, and I don't buy his claim for one second...

You are scummy for intent read reasons. and my intent read>>>>>> flavor/role name reads


So like, you're saying the correlation between flavor and roles is 0. Well...
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Post Post #336 (isolation #67) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:34 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Ellibereth wrote:I'll pass until 3 claims later.
You and Acos can keep going though. It's really funny.


Fucking useless as ever.

I mean, I have heard a LOT of good things about you, but all I've ever seen was MPM (you flaked) and now here (you've said all of nothing).

Mind showing me why you're known as a stellar player?


u mad?
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Post Post #339 (isolation #68) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:37 pm

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bastard flavor != flavor meaning nothing

This fetish people have about categorical claims is so strange - one counterexample disproves it.
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Post Post #341 (isolation #69) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:38 pm

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So that's entirely null - see, it's bastard flavor! That means anyone could be in. Hell, Gandalf could be in, because flavor means LITERALLY NOTHING.
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Post Post #344 (isolation #70) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:04 pm

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kiwieagle wrote:
Katsuki wrote:Kiwi is scum for every post he's made this page, but we can deal with this AFTER the nameclaim.

atleast I post.

havent seen you post anything useful

and explain why plz?

or is posting too hard?


lol tu quoque
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Post Post #346 (isolation #71) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:37 pm

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we were, but I think Slowpoke is the meme you'd be wanting right about now
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Post Post #351 (isolation #72) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:45 am

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looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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Post Post #352 (isolation #73) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:45 am

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Anyone left to claim?
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Post Post #360 (isolation #74) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:09 am

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DeathNote wrote:Thats because you feel so special thinking you caught scum.


lol

sk or mafia?
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Post Post #373 (isolation #75) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:34 am

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this is the game where we fail to vote our top scumreads, bobsnox
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Post Post #378 (isolation #76) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:03 am

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unvote, vote: DeathNote


STEAMROLLED
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Post Post #389 (isolation #77) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:41 am

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<_< aren't we lynching someone else? Why are you claiming?!
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Post Post #396 (isolation #78) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:52 am

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bobsnox wrote:Acosmist - I take it you're not going to daykill DeathNote? <_<


that is correct
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Post Post #401 (isolation #79) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:52 am

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It's called a mafia assassin. "Mafia dayvig" is a contradiction in terms; "vigilante" does not denote merely a killing role, but a town killing role.

Deflection is adorable, kiwi.
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Post Post #404 (isolation #80) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:58 am

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kiwieagle wrote:
Acosmist wrote:It's called a mafia assassin. "Mafia dayvig" is a contradiction in terms; "vigilante" does not denote merely a killing role, but a town killing role.

Deflection is adorable, kiwi.

Deflection of what?


From people who claimed scum. You know, DeathNote. And I think someone else? Kwanton?
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Post Post #406 (isolation #81) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:19 pm

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We are looking for Artemis Fowl?
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Post Post #410 (isolation #82) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:24 pm

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DeathNote wrote:Are we not? Wasn't his father looking for him?


I think someone is looking for him, and that's why you claimed - to out him. If it was worth dying for after you lost one scumbuddy, then I'm wondering what your wincon is...
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Post Post #417 (isolation #83) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:34 pm

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DeathNote wrote:I gave my FoS already. My reads are on the top of page 16. No one ever wants to take blame for being wrong.... so sad.


Um, actually, everyone wants to claim responsibility for this lynch. No one is disavowing their participation in it.

WE LIKE TO LYNCH SCUM :teeeeeeach:
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Post Post #424 (isolation #84) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:41 pm

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DeathNote wrote:
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I've had enough of this. Claimed scum isn't dying fast enough.

Daykil: DeathNote


Can you be any more scummy about this?

You will see that I was right.


lol here is the fulcrum of your flipflopping
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Post Post #427 (isolation #85) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:48 pm

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<_< his reaction...made you...conflicted?!

how many times can a guy claim scum

anyway, I'll post in 47 hours, hopefully you've lynched one of the claimed scum by then! LATER
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Post Post #462 (isolation #86) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:16 pm

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kiwieagle wrote:
Katsuki wrote:
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
kiwieagle wrote:Bodyguard


Seriously? SERIOUSLY?

Please try and be a little more obvious in your rolefishing. >.>

Kats, I don't endorse a claim unless you really think it will help town a LOT. Even then, I still think it is a bad idea.


It does no harm, and it's for the lols. :D

Plus the game's prolly ending tonight so doesn't really matter.

Butler the Modified Elite Bodyguard~

I could always ask the same question.


Really?

Tu Quoque is your f'ing argument?
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Post Post #465 (isolation #87) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:31 pm

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So two people were in favor of it.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand you're exposing power roles.

Cool, you can die after DeathNote and Kwanton.
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Post Post #467 (isolation #88) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:44 pm

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20% of all players

is actually YOUR ARGUMENT

like

that should be MINE, because that's, you know, a point in my favor

Well, mafia already has a target, so let's tell them EVERYTHING about the setup! Make it really simple!

If I am mafia, I don't want my scum-partners dying. Isn't that uh...trivial? Like, if you satisfy your win condition, you achieve victory. What a vacuous statement. Are you calling me scum? Can you man up and do it? No hypothetical to hide behind! Come on!
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Post Post #470 (isolation #89) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:49 pm

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and 10% > 0%! That means that anyone could want to massclaim, and we'd all go on our merry way!

Did I miss where 10% was the threshold for approving an action in mafia? Typically it's...you know, 51%.

Do you want to massclaim or not?! You are changing this story awfully quickly!

Say trivial things some more! SOME MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAR

DIG THAT HOLE DEEPAH
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Post Post #474 (isolation #90) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:57 pm

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Y U CONTINUE TO POST WHEN U WRONG

INTERNET Y U EXIST
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Post Post #475 (isolation #91) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:57 pm

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This reminds me of the time on webdiplomacy when it took like 7 posts to explain that, yes, if x then y implies if not-y then not-x.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #92) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:12 pm

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Leiskyrie wrote:So kiwi be the lynch tomorrow? I'll look into Kwanton later.


Let's not get ahead of ourselves. We will know much better tomorrow.
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Post Post #479 (isolation #93) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:14 pm

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kiwieagle wrote:
Acosmist wrote:Y U CONTINUE TO POST WHEN U WRONG

INTERNET Y U EXIST

So trolls like you didnt have to stay under the bridge all day long.


Is this how you answer exam questions? "Professor is a troll, don't care."
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Post Post #487 (isolation #94) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:04 pm

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kiwieagle wrote:Kwanton might be:
scum
or
newbtown (look at his join date though.....)

he may seem scum, but theres always the possibilty of him being noobtown


Leiskryie:
Barely any content.
Gut feeling she is scum.
Dont know how to elaborate.
all her posts were never larger than a paragraph.
Always pops in to answer a question.
Its as if though she posts little, so she attracts any attention.
also her recent post was a bit opportunistic


What a weird hedge.

Like, there's a disjunction where one of the disjuncts is just flatly not true,
which you then go on to point out yourself
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It's like, if I made a read, and I said "either Kwanton is town or he was scumbuddies with vollkan (but look what happened last night...)"

If the possibility you're appending by logical addition is demonstrably false, then why state your read as a disjunction instead of simply as an atomic sentence?
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Post Post #753 (isolation #95) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:52 am

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Nexus wrote:DeathNote needs to accept he was an idiot (read the Dead Thread)


QFMFT
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Post Post #776 (isolation #96) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:15 am

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why on earth would anyone kill me <_<

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Post Post #778 (isolation #97) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:11 pm

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Why did the SK kill me???

Also, lolparanoidbobsnox
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Post Post #780 (isolation #98) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:13 pm

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what is goofbash
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