Mini 1185 - Artemis Fowl Mafia Game Over

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Vote: Mehplus

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unvote, Vote Death note

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Unvote, Vote volkan

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Elli, that's three votes you've placed so far this game, with no explanation. Why so CES/Jack?

AGM, not like my questioning Elli means anything at this point?

I need to learn how to use photoshop...just imagine the Joker all smiley here with Why so Ces/Jack?

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But seriously, volkan, first question post 39, something feels disingenuous and off mhmhm.

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Welp, I had a roughly 6-month hiatus from mafia, and the two games that have started since I came back both had in-thread confirms. I don't have a "reply with a /confirm" reflex.

Looks quite clear to me.
This is his third game post-hiatus. The previous two had in-thread confirms.
And fairly easy to verify too...

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Ok one was actually a replace-in but still.

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yeahyeahyeah
what I don't get is why you had to ask him in the first place since it's already clear and even if not something you can look up.

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yeah a lot of people hate RVS because they prefer not to have to force themselves to be casual; they want to get into pointless semantic arguments so they can nail someone for a verbal slip-up

we call that lot of people "scumlors"

Ellibereth where are the random statistics, broski?

Hm?
Oh that game...oh my that game. I usually don't do that shit.

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Competing wagons make me happy.
Taking quick note of the little bird next to my year that's saying that Volkan's an early scum bus wagon.
But I don't know why. hmmmhamma.
Death, what do you think about anything. Alignment-wise. Reasons not necessary.
Sleepy buzzed a towntell earlier so I not really feeling that. Bob's town...

HEY KATSU DARLING, I FORGOT YOUR SCUM META. REFRESHER PLZ?

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I can live with one or two RVS votes, but three in a row with no justification?

What's the problem with that?

Wasn't a case for a lynch.
and I didn't think much of the "established case" on volkan.
response to Acos WAS intentionally plain.

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Do you delete questions if they're answered later.
Like when you're making a post like the two above.
Or just leave everything there as you read.

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Seriously... is there anyone Aco doesn't argue with?

Death, what do you think about anything. Alignment-wise. Reasons not necessary.

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Sleepy Krew, yes or no to the following statement: Tunneling is bad.

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I do indeed have a record of playing this way. I wasn't aware I could quote ongoing games. I'll go find the stuff now.

and this be taking you awhile no? I looked for fun. Took me about a minute.

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Ok you're not allowed now. But still, 3 hours before the mod comment.

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Why didn't you have the examples up before mod said they were illegal.

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I'M ANGELINE FOWL.
PEACE OUT.

Unvote, vote sleepy

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ITT we learn scum got no fake-nameclaims.
Mass nameclaim possibility? Not sure yet.
And for my own future reference:

vollkan (5): Lady Lambdadelta, Leiskyrie, Katsuki, Ellibereth, MehPlusRawr
SleepyKrew (4): kiwieagle, Kwanton, AlamasterGM, vollkan
bobsnox (2): DeathNote, SleepyKrew
Ellibereth (1): Acosmist

Not voting: bobsnox
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SleepyKrew (5): kiwieagle, AlamasterGM, vollkan, bobsnox, Lady Lambdadelta
vollkan (2): Ellibereth, MehPlusRawr
DeathNote (1): Acosmist
Kwanton (1): Katsuki
AlamasterGM (1): SleepyKrew
bobsnox (1): DeathNote

Not voting: Kwanton, Leiskyrie

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Uh...internet keeps disconnecting so I can't go back and read what's been happening.

But

unvote

for now due to claim.

^^^Your buddy?

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A massnameclaim could lead to PR outing, because the main characters would likely be PRs. This is why I didn't suggest it.

a.k.a we should do it tomorrow.

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A massnameclaim could lead to PR outing, because the main characters would likely be PRs. This is why I didn't suggest it.

a.k.a we should do it tomorrow.

Yes.

But then why did you let him self-hammer?

huhwut.
how is that related at all.
and yeah we should massnameclaim.

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vollkan (5): Lady Lambdadelta, Leiskyrie, Katsuki, Ellibereth, MehPlusRawr
SleepyKrew (4): kiwieagle, Kwanton, AlamasterGM, vollkan
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SleepyKrew (6): kiwieagle, AlamasterGM, vollkan, bobsnox, Lady Lambdadelta, Ellibereth, SleepyKrew

Ok...so volkan wagon has scum, Lady/Katsu/Leisk/Meh. Nothing there yet.
But Sleep busser if we take out obvtown bob leaves Lady/kiwi.

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I will be pushing a kwanton wagon until we lynch that scumbag if anyone cares to join me... <_<

Ellibereth - thought process behind #262?

scum vs. town competing wagons, there is scum on the town wagon.
Scum lynch, there is a busser.

Anyway, we need to organize nameclaim. Popcorn starting with me since I'm already out?

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No.
Claim your name and choose someone.

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Elli - Angeline Fowl
Kwanton - Wing Commander Vinyaya
Kiwi - Trouble Kelp
Lady - Mulch Diggums
Bob - commander Root
Acos - Corporal Lili Frond
Meh Plus - Corporal Grub Kelp
Katsu - ?
Leisky - ?
Death Note - ?

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I'll pass until 3 claims later.
You and Acos can keep going though. It's really funny.

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Methinks this be more relevant.

based around the first two Artemis Fowl books (Artemis Fowl, and Artemis Fowl and the Arctic Incident).

I'm pretty sure Vinyaya wasn't an actual character until Book 4...

Hmmm

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lolthisgame.
Katsssu, get in here so we can kill Death kk?

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ELLI WHERE ARE YOUUUUUUUUU~

I CAME, BUT NOW YOU'RE GONE.

hmmmwhat???
Tired. Don't want to think about whatever shenanigans are amuck now bleh. Manana.

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With what's looking 2 NK's keeping Death alive looks risky...
Hmmmmagah.
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I'm seriously debating massclaim, would help organizing this sooo much easier.

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Actually Death just probably has to die.

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Deathnote, I'm curious, why don't you see anything town about bob? He's like beaconbeacontown to me.

And... now that LLD has revealed she fake day killed me, I can not imagine why she wouldn't be town. As scum, there is no reason not to day kill a claimed cop that everyone wants dead... it just benefits scum-LLD too much.

Also. This logic. It makes no sense.

Because I'm stupid and think that the Mod's bastard flavor thing is a bluff and I'll actually read peop;le later..I;ll be doing flavour analysis which I usually hate. Yay.

Elli - Angeline Fowl
Kwanton - Wing Commander Vinyaya
Kiwi - Trouble Kelp
Lady - Mulch Diggums
Bob - commander Root
Acos - Corporal Lili Frond
Meh Plus - Corporal Grub Kelp
Katsu - Butler
Leisky - Artemis Jr.
Death Note - Artemis Jr./Chix Verbal.

Okay, with Scalene...others two are obv Opal. and probably Cudgeon.
Root, Butler, Arty, Mulch are fairly obv characters. Mulch's alliance is questionable...but at least not scum.
sooo, Vinyaya, Kelp, Frond, Chix.
Ok here's the thing. I can't see Scum NOT bussing sleepy somewhat D1 for some cred. I mean, he was so obviously going down that was such a scumbuddy happen.
SleepyKrew (6): kiwieagle, AlamasterGM, vollkan, bobsnox, Lady Lambdadelta, Ellibereth, SleepyKrew
..that leaves lady and kiwi. Gah.
Kiwi is probably not scum. With Deathtown he's conf'ed. With Deathscum...I don't think Deathscum would fake the innocent on his buddy.
Katsu's V/LA will be an issue if we massclaim though...timewise. And he already wanted to claim earlier so it would be necessary in it gah.

aggggggggggggggggga screw this. I mean theoretically and like whateveritically we have to kill Death Note. But I keep hesitating. Damn it.
yeah Blag, I'll be voting him in a few hours. So if people want to say anything now blahblah. No self-hammer this time.

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hi
willbeable to post tonight

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so...GF kiwi = us royally screwed I guess. Gutty weird feelings but whatever, won't think about that for now.
ASSUMING, kiwi's as town as the lovely deathnote declared...
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DeathNote (6): Leiskyrie, Katsuki, Acosmist, MehPlusRawr, kiwieagle, Lady Lambdadelta

SleepyKrew (6): kiwieagle, AlamasterGM, vollkan, bobsnox, Lady Lambdadelta, Ellibereth, SleepyKrew

vollkan (5): Lady Lambdadelta, Leiskyrie, Katsuki, Ellibereth, MehPlusRawr
SleepyKrew (4): kiwieagle, Kwanton, AlamasterGM, vollkan
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Bleh still nothing really...
Wait. I have a hunch as to what's going on. hahahaaaaa now this makes much more sense.

Lamb, if you knew the flavor was all bastarded, or that the mod said it was, why didn't you protest against name-claim?
Katu's town for the kiwithing now. Along with claim. And so is Lei.
Volkan and Deathnote both go to Lady/Meh then.

anda it's probably Meh

vote Meh

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Actually Kwanton is scum.

DeathNote (6): Leiskyrie, Katsuki, Acosmist, MehPlusRawr, kiwieagle, Lady Lambdadelta
Kwanton (1): bobsnox
Not voting: Ellibereth, Kwanton, DeathNote

Death didn't need all in the scumz on his wagon to Die. And bob is town.

Unvote, Vote Kwanton

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vollkan (1): MehPlusRawr
DeathNote (1): Acosmist
Kwanton (1): Katsuk7i
bobsnox (1): DeathNote

Not voting: Kwanton, Leiskyrie

Samething for off sleepy wagon.
(assuming Katsu town), Meh/Kwanton.
And same thing with 1.2 in off volkan (to Meh/Kwanton)
We're lynching one of those two today.

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Katsu, Lei. China or Taiwan? Me Taiwan.

Because nameclaim had caught us a scum on day one. I saw no reason to NOT do it, even if I didn't expect it to yield results.

Are you completely disregarding it now though?

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Background enough that you're voting claimed Artemis apparently.
Or am I missing something.

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MPR: Flavor, and why N1, restrictions etc.?
and methinks Kwanton should be claiming too, peoplez agree right?

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Unvote

VOTE: Kwanton
Kwanton is confirmed scum after that post.

Reallyreally? I assume from your no reason = I don't feel like saying amirite.

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Meh, wut are your reads.
And what do people think of kiwi IF the Deathnote innocent never happened.

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Massclaim, MPR choose first, go agree?

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was more surprised at Death.

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Vanillla
Leisk next.

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Hey
Lei
you have to choose someone.

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was more surprised at Death.

but... Sleepy... and Kwanton... and stuff

oh well. I'm not sure what to make of the NKs over the course of this game but I'm pretty sure we need to nail scum

today/tonight

or else.

What is this? Explain.

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Oh lol fail. Wrong quote.

Hey
Lei
you have to choose someone.

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wut
am I going blind?
I can't find.

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Someone to claim next I meant.
And bobtown ummm...without reading back it was from his bad attitude transform to good attitude-atron sometime in d1 with some bigpost. Yeah.
We need to finish this masslciam guys...I think bob and Katsu are yet to go? SO LEI CHOOOSE.

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Katsu aren't you still left?
to claim

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Were you cause of any blood?

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TBH my hunch right now is MPR being some sort of commuter-SK hence the alternation and stuff. I'm not sure if it makes sense yet, just though of.

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though at this point, after having examined all the votecounts and doing some minor analysis, I'm having a hard time thinking of elli as town.

Ummm where you see this?
I tried to do some vote stuff earlier void of my own reads and think I got stuck and gave up.

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Voided
claim

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Rolefishing?
Hell no, I'm shooting a bazooka into the water. Or a nuke.
Anyway, if you're the SK you can still be saved by my psychiatric powers. So it's for you own good. You'll probably die if you lie you know.

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Let's make it simple.
If you don't claim you die, Lei/Meh/bob/me. We'd all be willing to vote for you in a heartbeat.
If you're town realize saving your own skin is important now and claim, your inability to at this point will just make it easier for the bloodlust to be brought upon you.
If you're the SK, life is easier because you can get psychiatric help from myself and join the side of light.
If you're scum, keep on going with life like now but the noose draws near.

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ooh whoopsy daisy.
so omina. Are you SCUMZ then? Because then you have to die. SK can still be saved.
and did you skim and have random reads or draw names from hats and stuff?

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you only looked for lei's case on meh earlier or something?
like just tell me what happened readingwise so far and looking at any posts at all.

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Ima waiting for Voided to caaaatch up.
Lei, could you just copy and paste the relevant vote counts for me?

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VC analysis is messier with 2 scum + SK (aka I don't know the dynamics well).
Anything sans wagon is the above. I need to think on it. I'm far more used to dealing with the 9: 3. As in i don't remember playing a 9: 2: 1
Why was it forceful to get you to claim when Meh had already claimed? No possible negative, possible gain of you fucking up his claim. Even better as it was clear you didn't read.

Voided, did you read the whole thread?

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I don't get your logic at all for why it's not 2 scum 1 Sk or 2 scum with 1.5 kills.
Is it purely flavor?

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wait, Kats, i forgot, you said you didn't stop any blood or cause any blood right?

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Check in, I'll have time tomorrow.

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/doesn't feel like reading walls now so adding flavor filler.
Lei, what's your flavor for artemis vanilla?

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blah ok screw this.
I start trying today.
hoooold

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First off. I just noticed that vollkan is spelled like that and not volkan -.-.
HEY BOB
When you said that you thought katsu was softclaiming D1 here my first thought was that you weren't sophisticated enough to fake something like that as scum. But the post I assume you though was the softclaim was number 30 here, Here ar post 60 you DON'T hop on or address it, And then at 72 with no real change in game state you go all hammertime, implying you already thought it was softclaimed.
So, what happened. If you thought it was softclaim why didn't you address it and go on immediately, instead of not going onto the wagon and asking for hammer at what you said you thought was L-1.
Oh, and at the time the game started, were you in any other games with Kats or volk.

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wha, just noticed Lei had no prods but without doing...anything up to and through the massclaim. Prod avoiding coastaaaage?
I'll look at activity vs. other places later but lurking just long enough to avoid prod is something I do as scum.

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And without looking back, katsu's attitude toward the whole butler claiming, delaying claim, eagerness to claim but not totally, and all that, has been making me really think he's town.

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/doesn't feel like reading walls now so adding flavor filler.
Lei, what's your flavor for artemis vanilla?

Oh yeah, I guess I shouldn't leave bob out of this.
COMMANDER ROOT VANILLA FLAVOR PLZ?

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I don't know about Voided.
If I were scum I wouldn't just show up like that without reading at all (which he clearly didn't), I only do that as town.

Development of read on meh/voided or bob?
For bob it's newby? -> town -> DOUBT right now.
meh/voided was more of ->I dunno -> scum because of flavor and PoE -> i also dunno.
i think it's like that, I don't really remember all of what I was thinking earlier but it should close enough

I'm trying to reevaluate everything now though.
And do we only have one day? Shit.

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what's the status on lynches to -ylo stuff.
Like, assuming 2 scum with 1.5 kills, 3 scum with 1.5 kills, and 2 scum + 1 SK, what do we have left.
THANKS LEI.

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If there are 2 scum left, Voided is scum.
It isn't guaranteed, though, because of the possibility of an SK + 1 scum combination.

Wut.

Gahla, if we're in Mylo the No lynch we seem to be heading to is probably best...
My intuition is that it's 2 scum with 1.5 kills or 2 + 1(0.5 whatever...)

ummmm 5 hours right? gah.

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huhwut
I still don't get it >.>
what terms what.
Lylo if there are 2 scum left right? But why voided 100% then?

Realistically we can only lynch voided unless katsu shows up in which case we can lynch bob rite? I don't think anything else is possible.

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Leeii, I still have no idea what the hell you're talking about. >.<
Oh hai Katsu. I dunno yet. It's what I'm trying to decide now. Bob's been nonexistant...Meh was terribad, Voided shows up and walls up and I dunno...
You're leaning Voided right? What do you think about our interaction with the whole YOU CLAIM ME PSYCHOLOGIST earlier.

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If there are 2 scum left, Voided is scum.
It isn't guaranteed, though, because of the possibility of an SK + 1 scum combination.
and Oh Lei I get it.

gaaaaah bob goes from crap to a few good posts back to crap again.
Meh's just stays as crap.
ummmmma...we still have some time >.>

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check in, sorry working too
and when did I say that? (2 scum = voided scum)

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I think I copied your post without the enter between the lines somehow. >.>

gah, th logical choice is voided i think...but something in me keeps saying BOB

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actually we need Katsu to kill bob
KATSU YOU THERE?

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no hammer blahblah
How long until DL?

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CONSPIRACY THEORY
BOB ONLY CLAIMED COMMANDER ROOT
WHEN ALL THE OTHER GOOD GUYS WERE FULL NAMES
AND DIDN'T HE HAVE SOME EVIL BROTHER OF DEATH?

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<_< ok thanks

Commander Root

popcorn Acosmist

BAMBALUSHA

SleepyKrew - General Scalene - Mafia Goon, lynched Day 1
AlmasterGM - Foaly the Centaur - Inventor, killed Night 1
vollkan - Captain Holly Short - Odd Night Doctor, killed Night 1
DeathNote - Chix Verbil - Macho Cop, lynched Day 2
Acosmist - Corporal Lili Frond - Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2
Kwanton - Wing Commander Vinyaya - Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 3
Lady Lambdadelta - Mulch Diggums - Vanilla Townie, killed Night 3
kiwieagle - Captain Trouble Kelp - Vanilla Townie, killed Night 3

who claimed <_< ugh

Meh? did he?

Corporal Grub Kelp

popcorn, uh, Katsuki?

ME ANGELINE FOWL
LEI ARTEMIS FOWL
KATSU BUTLER

GARAGRAAAAA?

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Where the hell is everyone else? It's like I'm volleying back and forth between each of you one at a time -_-.

OH THE IRONY
THE IRONY

Sorry - I sent the Mod my V/LA but forgot to post it in thread. I will not be on today unless it's late tonight. Will try to post tomorrow.

HAHAAHAHA?
KISHISHISHISHISHISHISHI

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LEI
DON'T GO
DON'T LEAVE
THREE
WE NEED THREEEE OF US

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THERE'S BLOOD
BLOOD IN THE WATER
DO YOU SMELL IT KATSU?

COMMANDER ROOT? NO!
COMMANDER JULIUS ROOT

LEI WE NEED YOU, I NEED YOU.

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COME ON GUYZ
I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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PSYYYYYYYYYYYYY

VOTE: BOB

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NOOO KATSU
WHY
WHY
WHY
WHY
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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I'm sad right now.

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I played like shit until the last day when were already lost.
Sorry guys.
Death's fakeclaim was still stupid though...

And why the hell didn't Sleepy use his fakeclaim.

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Wait, would we have won if katsu shot bob?
DAMN IT CUPCAKE!

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Your modding was great. Thanks!

I fucked with trying to get the mass nameclaim. I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE DAMN REVIEWER FARA...got too obsessed with Sleepy getting outed that way.

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BUT BOB WAS SCUM TOO

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Voided through me off by seeming to know anything about MPR. When i replace as scum I usually them first and stuff.
I discovered why last night.
Mpr's claim wasn't on his damn iso, he posted it on his alt. -.-