Open 318: By Nomination Only (Game Over)

[Twistedspoon]

how interesting

my experiment in trying to confirm to my role PM by saying I was a jester seemed to have worked :p

anyways, I'm not too sure what cognitive dissonance is but it sounds clever.

@PZ: so why did you claim so early?

and finally

VOTE: Forest
welcome back

[Twistedspoon]

well that sounds interesting

VOTE: Mumm-Ra

so, I suppose this dissonance you see as a scumtell?

[Twistedspoon]

so from what i understand, Fenchurch's initial town read on PZ is due to the fact that claiming off the bat in RL is a towntell?

[Twistedspoon]

Hey TS!

I'd OMGUS vote, but you unvoted me so I guess it doesn't really count anymore.

you're right

i need to put pressure on again

VOTE: muffin
same reason as my previous forest vote

[Twistedspoon]

Vote: twistedspoon

for being talked into an Amrun vote in a strange way.

way to read the thread comapdré
I never voted Amrun

VOTE: vitamin
btw, Amrun reads as town to me. I would have questioned the early claim had amrun not done so, and I know i'm town

Copper reads even more town

Optimal play is typically doing the opposite of what GreyICE says.

lol, what's wrong with greyice?

GreyICE suggested the optimal play would be to RNG the "normal" lynches. Thoughts?

RNG?

We have some thoughts about how to get the most utility out of the setup (that is, the mindset that should get the most value out of even days), but after discussing them in the QT we think it's best saved until tomorrow, when scum have chosen their first list. The nice thing about Nightless games is that there are no surprise deaths that take away your chance to speak.

this reads as very town to me. And this is coming from someone who doesn't like secret hydrae

NOT TRANSPARENT.

Unreadable.

Must stop posting while doing other things.

explain how copper is unreadable

VOTE: muffin
same reason as my previous forest vote

What was the reason for your forest vote? "welcome back"?

sure, a random vote. Forest has explained the 'welcome back'

as for PZ. I'll admit i would have never done a gambit like that since my mindset seemed to be the same one as Amrun had. However I now see the town motivation behind it.... i think

[Twistedspoon]

Vote: twistedspoon

for being talked into an Amrun vote in a strange way.

way to read the thread comapdré
I never voted Amrun

VOTE: vitamin

Just to elaborate on this point, I find it suspicious that the scummiest thing you've seen so far was something that never happened.
Was there anything else voteworthy to you? anything else you find scummy?

[Twistedspoon]

tell me what else you find scummy/voteworthy and we'll see

do you find PZ's gambit town? And Amrun's reaction? Do you agree with NS's logic?

[Twistedspoon]

ninja'd: I'll find out tommrow then I guess.

nighty night

[Twistedspoon]

By NS's logic, do you mean the above or something else?

i was thinking of his suspicions of copper but it's slightly questionable in general

Ts, you were doing a joke vote for a joke version of me, so how does that warrant a vote on vitamin r?

becuase i thought he would have found something scummier to vote. It doesn't matter. Maybe the miscounted vote was misleading.
UNVOTE:
for now

[Twistedspoon]

What do you think of ns, tts?

is this me?

well I'm not the biggest fan of his logic so far. I see no reason to suspect copper at this point and his case on hoopla scum is unconvincing and weak imho.
I'm not sure if trying to make a case this early is a scumtell or what though =|

call me inconsistent, but I actually think I need to hear more from him before I could vote

[Twistedspoon]

Fenchurch is a beacon of towniness

why?

You too

spoon

I have no idea what you're thinking atm.

just for bolding my name...

I've expressed suspicious of NS and Vitamin already. Rory and Fenchurch also look odd or crafty to me. I'd like to hear more from forest

Fenchurch finding NS town and Amrun scummy is just bizzare to me.

Well PZ is town.

expand further

[Twistedspoon]

hmm okay

PZ

...

1) Fenchurch. Somehow manages to bring up the reason that claiming early in RL games is a towntell (I have no idea if this is true or why. Is it even relevant) to begin her assault on Amrun. Posts 4 and 5 are bland and contentless. Seems to be trying to being attention to Forest and Co. quite often. Seems like Idon'tknowwhat. Distancing? Distracting attention from herself?
I will admit that until muffin brought up Fenchurh again I felt like I'd forgotten about her

forest: any comments on the game?

I'd like to hear more from forest_air and VitaminR.

I also disagree with fenchurch on 3 things

1) Amrun is town
2) NS is suspicious
3) PZ is more than 'Slightly town'

However I do think I'm only getting half of the side for some reason. I asked Hoopla why she finds fenchurch so Town. I'm interested

2) NS. His posts are rather brief and seem very weak. E.G.

^Scum, with or without Zito.

Not only do I dislike the lack of reasons, but why He's sticking with his RVS vote on copper if He's so sure Hoopla is scum.
And why he suspects Copper is beyond me

Haven't yet seen a reason to move. I also suspect Copper, so.

this is rather poor

If he has a reason to call hoopla scum then he jolly well has a reason to move
Having played with NS scum before, the briefness is familiar
His ISo Post #11 sums up he play so far quite well

3) I don't think I have enough to say about Roman or other candidates for #3 . I'm interested in why he hasn't voted as of now. I find it odd that he counters NS's case on hoopla yet doesn't vote. His vote has been unemployed since the start of the game. Why?
Forest hasn't brought anything to the table so she gets a mention. She's unlikely scum with Fenchurch though.
Vitamin is like Rory in that he suspects NS but doesn't vote him. His questioning seems okay though

[Twistedspoon]

Well PZ is town.

expand further

W e l l P Z i s t o w n .

I like th-

no, I just can't do it :p

eh. nevermind. I should've known better than to ask Muffin for explanation

[Twistedspoon]

Twistedspoon, could you describe to me your impression of NS's scum (and/or town) meta?

Straight off of the bat, the main thing I remember was that his posts were short as scum

NS iso in the game I was scum with NS in. You can look at my Iso in that game too I guess. :/

having said that though, i took a look at his Iso in the game we were town in together and it actually doesn't look as different as I remembered it. :[

Hmm. beyond that though i don't remember too much else about the meta. I mean it's all there in the 2 links (well I played another game with his Alt and he got lynched D1 and had short posts, buddying and odd voting patterns). Maybe I can't be as helful as I hoped with the meta, but I'm sure others have played games with NS (I know Amrun has for instance)

[Twistedspoon]

@Rory: Muffin is always like that. He always has too much conviction. In this game, just look at how much he says PZ is town without giving a reason at all.
With Muffin the tell doesn't really work :/

[Twistedspoon]

so who are your top 3 suspects then Hoopy?

[Twistedspoon]

so who are your top 3 suspects then Hoopy?

Nobody Special, Amrun, Copper and VitaminR are the group of players I'd be most willing to lynch right now.

why copper?

and wouldn't a Nobody special and copper suspicion be mutually exclusive in a way or am I overthinking things?

[Twistedspoon]

I'm glad to see my point about Vitamin's voting (or lack of) is being picked up again

However I have a Greater suspicion of NS than I do of Vitamin right now. I'm placing my vote on NS for the reasons I've previously stated on NS since I'm somewhat satisfied by Hoopla's explanation into the realms of Fenchurhology

VOTE: NS

[Twistedspoon]

and I'm greatly enjoying TS's play till now.

I'm guessing it's the NS vote over vitamin vote you dislike?

I still suspect vitamin greatly, but ounce for ounce, NS seems more suspicious at present and the vote still seems worthy for this page, although I'd like to hear why Fenchurch doesn't seem to think so

The lack of Vitamin interactions i alarming though. I remember when I was scum with Vi. I don't think I ever had an interaction with Vi the entire game.

In a few pages or so I'll step back and take a look at Vitamin, NS and the other suspects and see how things have changed. We'll see if my Vote is still useful on NS

oh, and I think Muffin is town. I can't explain why just yet since I can't talk about ongoing games though :/

[Twistedspoon]

Questions to your reads comradé NS;

Assuming you find Hoopla scummy (which I think is a reasonable assumption from the above post), do you still trust her judgement of Fenchurch being obvtown? If not then what makes you have A high town read on Fenchurch? Are you also a skilled Fenchurchologist?

In addition where do you stand on PZ, Copper and Vitamin?

[Twistedspoon]

Copper is slightly leaning scummish.

oh yeah

I forgot for a second about your reasoning behind that :p
I think I've already said What I think of copper anyways

what's white-knighting?

[Twistedspoon]

I trust Hoopla's Fen read; just because Hoopla is lying scum doesn't mean she wouldn't try to white-knight Fen.

okay then

well why not?

I could think of several advantages for Hoopla were hoopla scum defending Fenchurch.

[Twistedspoon]

Not sure if forest understands the set up even remotely, which is probably a towntell.

I want to talk about forest...
but i can't yet because of the ongoing games rule

I'll just have to judge on content for now. Ah...

[Twistedspoon]

Whatever, I'll be less stubbornly non-transparent. PZ, muffin, and twisted are town. Hoopla and forest probably are too.

And

Vote: Rory the Roman

.

talk about your Rory the Roman vote

Hoopla's knowledge of The Copper heads is... tantalising....

Copper, have any of your heads ever played with me?

ditto this question, but to Rory too If he's willing

[Twistedspoon]

forest is here?

@Forest: 3 top scumreads + the scummiest things you've seen so far

furthermore what do you think of Fenchurch and Hoopla

[Twistedspoon]

eh, wrong account :p

[Twistedspoon]

ffs, I've done it again

[Twistedspoon]

Why Fenchurch? Rory is town.

Why do you think Rory is town? I think he's scummy. He's done very little, and what he has done has been super-defensive and with little-to-no scumhunting.

did you answer this Hoopla?

[Twistedspoon]

Then I'll accept an answer now with interest if you know what I mean

[Twistedspoon]

what about joke around muffin?

Claim: Miller

Well PZ is town.

expand further

W e l l P Z i s t o w n .

[Twistedspoon]

I'm now inspired to create a mafia game where all posts have to be drunkposts

Hilarity ensues

[Twistedspoon]

I've personally played with Twistedspoon but not VitaminR.

you're tantalising me again
Was it one of my good games?

Twisted, could you briefly summarise for me your current thinking about this game?

I'll do this tommorow. I'm too tired to cut and paste some quotes

Rory

can I have a top 3 scumlist plz.

you've still to do this Rory

finally, I've been picking up towntells (of varying strengths) from all over the place this game. Scarily enough one for nearly every player except Forest. To me Forest just seems to have stated the obvious all game and I can't wait any longer. Even NS seems too individual and original in his thinking to be textbook scum to me
VOTE: Forest

[Twistedspoon]

I've personally played with Twistedspoon but not VitaminR.

you're tantalising me again
Was it one of my good games?

Twisted, could you briefly summarise for me your current thinking about this game?

I'll do this tommorow. I'm too tired to cut and paste some quotes

Rory

can I have a top 3 scumlist plz.

you've still to do this Rory

finally, I've been picking up towntells (of varying strengths) from all over the place this game. Scarily enough one for nearly every player except Forest. To me Forest just seems to have stated the obvious all game and I can't wait any longer. Even NS seems too individual and original in his thinking to be textbook scum to me
VOTE: Forest

[Twistedspoon]

I expected more from forest this game. I've played with forest town and she provided plenty of analysis and even reminded me of Amrun (I don't know why :p ) at some points. This has been dissapointing. All I've seen is IIoA and stating the obvious. I can only see either the setup up from a newbie game or playing for the other faction being the reason why

[Twistedspoon]

above post was really incoherent

'setup up' is meant to read 'step up'

I should stop posting at midnight

[Twistedspoon]

Vote: twistedspoon

for being talked into an Amrun vote in a strange way.

PZ came off as town in that gambit to me. I had the same feeling about Amrun's reaction.

At first I had mixed reactions about you. I never got talked into an Amrun vote, and had said I though Amrun town, but I had similar feelings about the second line. Both Amrun and PZ seemed town. Later on, I think you had to have a nice townie eye to spot your rory 'slip' and you're willing to change your assessments of players, which I find rather town.

If you were scum then I think it could only be with Amrun and Hoopla. But I'm not leaning scum on any of then either

I'll give you a townie card today vitamin. However I'm probably not the best at giving these out since At the moment I fell I could give one to everyone but Forest :p

[Twistedspoon]

- At the moment, I'd like to lynch Zito or forest_air. It'd take convincing, but I'd also be open to lynching you. Possibly Nobody Special if more people start looking town.

forest air

trust me, this is nothing like her town play

[Twistedspoon]

In this case, that makes hoopla my second strongest townread. (the first being TS for overall play).

what do you like about my overall play?

also, have I played with one of your heads before?

[Twistedspoon]

Yes, a lot. Otherwise I wouldn't be as confident.

are you AurorusVox?

Twisted, I'd like to see more from forest before making my mind up about her.

so would I

but it doesn't look like we're going to

[Twistedspoon]

aww

PZ was one of the main reasons I /in'd

next time, compadré

[Twistedspoon]

PS. NS replacement is more likely town. Yay!

town NS or frustrated or lazy NS?

[Twistedspoon]

welcome, Alpa

I trust you know of the mechanic and such

[Twistedspoon]

maybe he got frustated with you saying he was scummy either alignment and asked to replace out

either way I'm leaning town on Alpas/NS

[Twistedspoon]

Unvote, vote: Mumm-Ra

aww you took my joke

but yeah, I expected you to list me as a scum read, being my biggest suspect and whatnot

[Twistedspoon]

you might read my rant at some point about people not explaining their reads....

[Twistedspoon]

Unvote, vote: Mumm-Ra

aww you took my joke

but yeah, I expected you to list me as a scum read, being my biggest suspect and whatnot

Hint: read page 5.

if you have a reason to find my alignment questionable then you ought to say so

This is your chance to show me how town forest_air was

[Twistedspoon]

Copper is the most townie of the lot

there are no grounds for his lynch

[Twistedspoon]

CES, let's pretend we've gone through your whole spiel for a couple of pages and that you've had your fun. Now, content, please.

the Forest_air/CES slot is cursed not to post content or logic

Copper seriously?
What's the scumtell you say you found of Amrun's?
and what did I do page 5?

[Twistedspoon]

@Twisted. You won't find a single more logic person then CES on this board.

This is actually pretty true. CES only seems like he's trolling, but there's always content behind it.

well he needs to show it then

[Twistedspoon]

hey

Im the replacing guy, nice to meet you, Im just "ketchuping" the game and I will tell something later.

ketchuping?

Ask the whys and the usual stuff. I've got things to do, will be here in a couple of hours.

why?

[Twistedspoon]

what did I do pg5?

[Twistedspoon]

CES is an improvement for sure, But I really didn't like Forest air

The town forest air I've played with before made plenty of Analysis and such but this one...

anyways, This wagon is dead now.

I don't think Twistedspoon is at that level of fabrication as scum,

Anyways Here's how I see it

Copper is still a One-size-fits all townie and Everything he says is logical, reasoned and analytical. I trust him
Amrun is rather null. I had a town read at the start from same initial reactions to the PZ gambit but beyond that I have seen little to keep this read on her. Not liking her copper vote either
Fenchurch is prob town now (even if she hasn't got a vote down at all)
Malpascp is the definition of a wildcard. I won't object to his lynch
Rory might be town, I'm I'm rather sure Muffin is since I know he's more daring, careless and joking as town in general
Hoopla is probably the hardest to read. I'm not sure what scum or town hoopla is like, but I'm aware she's a good player. I don't think she's today's lynch, Nor is PZ
Vitamin has had some good points raised against him by Copper. I would not object to his lynch

[Twistedspoon]

Doesn't her flaking kind of nullify that forest_air tell? Or do you believe there's a chance she flaked because of her alignment? Is she in/keeping up with other games at the moment?

Flaking i find a null tell

she's flaking in another game too from what my investigations tell me

Amrun is rather null. I had a town read at the start from same initial reactions to the PZ gambit but beyond that I have seen little to keep this read on her. Not liking her copper vote either

Would you lynch her?

Why is malpascp a wildcard? And why would you be prepared to lynch a "wildcard"?

well let's say I have Muffin, Copper, Fenchurch and possibly PZ in a list. They're the ones I won't be willing to lynch today. Should the right evidence or case come up then I would be willing to lynch anyone else (although not neccesairily today. I've said that I don't want a hoopla lynch today at all)

NS requesting replacement might be some form of town tell, but It isn't a particularly strong one. NS's reads were weird and illogical imo, which makes him a wildcard to me

[Twistedspoon]

Doesn't her flaking kind of nullify that forest_air tell? Or do you believe there's a chance she flaked because of her alignment? Is she in/keeping up with other games at the moment?

Flaking i find a null tell

she's flaking in another game too from what my investigations tell me

Her flaking in another game implies she's too busy in real life, bored of mafia, or some non-alignment related cause. When there is a flake, there is the lead-up to a flake too - it's not an event that just happens. If you're using a tell about her not being as active/investigative - well, she flaked. She was busy/disinterested in the lead-up to her being replaced. Isn't that a better explanation for her lack of analysis?

It could be

Like i've said CES is an improvement of sorts and he may not be the wisest lynch today.

Also, what do you think about my new thoughts on Amrun?

If amrun was scum and Vitamin town, then I'm unsure why Amrun would jump off of the Vitamin wagon. Sure it was losing momentum, but like you say, Amrun found a new scumtell and that could surely improve the momentum; and It's not like the PZ wagon had any momentum
Appeasing you might make sense though

so... are you voting Amrun then?

Right now I'm not sure who to vote. I see the case on Amrun, but Copper does raise some good points against vitamin, and I trust most of the players on the 2 leading wagons too

[Twistedspoon]

why is vitamin town again hoopla?

[Twistedspoon]

Methinks I have strong evidence for Muffin town, but I can't post it yet due to ongoing games rule. He might know what I mean
and I won't hear a word against copper

the 3 on the vitamin wagon are town enough (for today) and I find vitamin as good a lynch as any

Amrun voting copper is real suspect though.
I'll probably switch to Amrun or Vitamin shortly
Vitamin is a weak link. It makes rory seem more town if anything and I feel Muffin might be wrong about rory

[Twistedspoon]

why is vitamin town again hoopla?

[Twistedspoon]

why is vitamin town again hoopla?

I think he's town because he was coming under fire for his conservatism with his vote, and as his wagon and pressure increased, he stoically stuck with how he claimed to play, which means his conservatism was probably genuine. If he were scum, he'd have more incentive to conform to the cultural voting norms, especially when being pressured for his play.

Copper says the exact opposite and that scum try and justify there actions and town conform

either way, I'm not going to give Vitamin free town fruit for his conservatism whatever tell it is

Alright, I'll trust you on your Muffin meta for now and hold you to it later.

VOTE: Amrun

Glad we agree
Incidentally, if anyone else has meta on muffin they might as well say their thoughts

VOTE: Amrun

[Twistedspoon]

I thought you said we'd played before

or is that the other head who I suspect to be AV?

[Twistedspoon]

Yeah. I was pretty sure mykonian was one of the heads on Rory. Some of the posts had a prickly, and stretching to conclusions feel about them that myko and his alts seem to all do. The main give away was when he was calling people "towny's" instead of townies - a trait associated to mykonian and few others.

Sherlock Hoopla?

[Twistedspoon]

sorry, Hoopla, But it can't be Nexus

because then Neither of the heads would have played with me, but Rory says one of them has many times.

[Twistedspoon]

hmmm

well I've played with Nacho and Juls a lot but this doesn't seem particularly familiar with them.
I bet It's Regfan

[Twistedspoon]

Rory, your opinion on Amrun (and the Amrun wagon)

[Twistedspoon]

It's unlikely it will change, though, as that was always my first thought. She dealt fairly well with all the early pressure, truth be told.

i thought this too, but beyond that I've seen little to consolidate this read

[Twistedspoon]

yeah, this Twistedspoon?i person looks pretty shifty to me

[Twistedspoon]

malpascp: is English not your first language? The Fleur-de-lis seems to indicate such.

i thought that would make him extra english since it appears to be the emblem and colours of the UK scouts

[Twistedspoon]

Alpas is giving me weird signals
This slot is cursed to be forever confusing

and God bless your Father, Amrun

[Twistedspoon]

buddy much?

anyways, Like muffin says; Amrun wagon isn't legit anymore

Time to go back and join Copper

VOTE: Vitamin

[Twistedspoon]

Muffin is always like this as town

in-your-face and reckless

scarily accurate sometimes though

[Twistedspoon]

CES replaced forest and Mapla replaced NS, Fenchurch

your reads might be wrong there

[Twistedspoon]

and mykonian is a rory the roman head, not copper

You seem to be muddled up fenchurch

[Twistedspoon]

VOTE: amrun

might do a reads or PofE list later. We'll see

[Twistedspoon]

I need to do a hefty re-read with note-taking....

it looks like you did since you say here mykonian is copper

[Twistedspoon]

no worries

[Twistedspoon]

Although the middle area {PZ, malp, Rory, CES} is really, really grey.

PZ could stand to post more, or at least comment on more, although he's said he's rereading so I'll wait and see. malp has been unimpressive so far but I had a slight town read on NS. Rory is meh, I don't feel strongly that he's scum, and I had a slight scum read on f_a before CES replaced in although he's sort of working to counteract that.

I agree so much

[Twistedspoon]

Muffin, you had better not actually be scum, or I look real bad from that reads list

[Twistedspoon]

I'm not scum and I never play like this as scum. Whimsically aggressive muffin is town muffin.

I'll make you a promise though, Twisted.

If I'm scum, I won't NK you.

Does that make you feel a bit better?

Muffin promises always make me feel better :3

[Twistedspoon]

usually I don't like to be told what to do, but I guess you are right Cooper.

about what?

[Twistedspoon]

Is vitamin good as scum?

Because if he is...

also, where Is PZ????

and why do I have the compulsion to vote maslytcapslaklas or however you spell it

[Twistedspoon]

would it be wrong of me to assume NS's replacing out was a 'I've mad a mess of this, I'm outta here' scumtell?

[Twistedspoon]

that malpadasjdhyo

[Twistedspoon]

If you're talking about your scum games Amrun then you have to mention pulling off that vezok kill like a pro in execution mafia

[Twistedspoon]

I like your chart Fenchurch. I think Rory looks suspect in that he waited so long for the opportunity to come before voting :/

[Twistedspoon]

agreed

I blame PZ

[Twistedspoon]

Are townies at the bottom?

[Twistedspoon]

Amrun isn't flailing, Copper

I'd say she was reacting quite well to her pressure (altought I might not see that beyond Amrunscum too)

might join a malpadascapla wagon...

[Twistedspoon]

I don't really understand the case on Copper. It makes no sense to me. Would also help if the Copper voters further explained this one.

this so much

[Twistedspoon]

TS keeps posting gold. NR 1 townie provides again, and these were mirror my thoughts pretty well.

what's NR?

[Twistedspoon]

the time for jokes is over.

Vote muff

I thought you said time for jokes was over?

[Twistedspoon]

Yay.

Even the mod agrees an Amrunvote is a joyous event.

what do you think of PZ?

[Twistedspoon]

Null based on play, which makes him a decent candidate for scum given the glut of town reads I currently have.

I hear you

[Twistedspoon]

too many town reads...

[Twistedspoon]

malpadghawf really needs to come along and explain his scumreads on Fenchurch and CES

[Twistedspoon]

K
new reads list

TOWN
Copper
Fenchurch
{Muffin, Hoopla}
CES
PZ
{Vitamin, RtR}
{Amrun, malpasdaqfs}
SUSPECT

Muffin drops slightly for the reasons Fenchurch just pointed out. Why unvote? However, I have seen muffin have second thoughts as town too though

[Twistedspoon]

if Amrun is sum I expect her buddies to be off of the wagon

still not seeing the case on copper, CES

[Twistedspoon]

I am also suspecting about Rory. His phrasing sounds like he knows who is scum and who isn't.

can you show me an example of this?

[Twistedspoon]

v/la until sunday

sorry guys

Noted. (Equinox)

[Twistedspoon]

Everyone state your preference between a zito and malshhja lynch.

mal definately

[Twistedspoon]

At present, I'd much rather see an Amrun lynch than a Zito or a malpa one. And Rory is coming off like a buddy making a last-ditch attempt to switch the lynch, but then it seems unlikely that anybody would be that blatant about it.

Agreed

I'm going to seriously consider rory should Amrun flip scum

[Twistedspoon]

malpa is still wasting his vote... and his player slot

[Twistedspoon]

i'm not back from V/LA yet, so this will be short

1) Amrun wagon VCA? I'll need to look at this before I make my main conclusions. If someone could do this whilst I'm away then that'd be great

2) I'm not a fan of any of these lynches. Muffin is obvtown though.

3) I'm leaning a Rory/Vitamin/malp(?) team at the moment. Mainly because of all the towntells flying around; I have seen far fewer from rory and vitamin that Hoopla and Muffin :/

[Twistedspoon]

The other more remote possibility I'm considering at the moment is whether CES-scum and Hoopla-scum would do this as partners, but that just seems so unlikely, and is only something I'll be concerned with if one of them is lynched and flips scum.

they might actually since no-one would expect 2 scum to be up for the nom...

but I have town reads on them

[Twistedspoon]

i think they're all town

muffin's amrun reconsiderations against a losing cause looks good to me and despite both CES and hoopla being probtown, Hoopla contributes more at the end of the day

in all honesty I just want want of these obvtownies to be lynched so we can look for real scum tommorow

[Twistedspoon]

VOTE: CES

sorry compadré

[Twistedspoon]

look, I think all 3 are town, but I'd be willing to keep alive whoever agrees with my reads the most. I'd rather have a townie who I wouldn't have to compete against than the converse

[Twistedspoon]

I can see scum wanting hoopla to go with CES and muffin being the expected mislynches

[Twistedspoon]

proddodgery

I have little to say whilst the lynch pool is still restricted.

CES is my fave choice since he writes least even though he is probtown like the rest etc.

[Twistedspoon]

proddodgery

I have little to say whilst the lynch pool is still restricted.

CES is my fave choice since he writes least even though he is probtown like the rest etc.

Why are you being so scummy today? I had you down as solid town before this.

I just want today over with so I can vote some real scum

CES isn't getting lynched. I'd rather volunteer for the lynch over him being lynched, as long as my dying wish of CES not ever being lynched is heeded.

why?
At least you write more than CES

[Twistedspoon]

proddodgery

I have little to say whilst the lynch pool is still restricted.

CES is my fave choice since he writes least even though he is probtown like the rest etc.

Why are you being so scummy today? I had you down as solid town before this.

I assume I'm not solid town anymore?

[Twistedspoon]

Meta is generalised to all games. I don't like it. I look at the game in hand specifically and realise that per post there is less justification to keep him alive.

[Twistedspoon]

so how does CES scum play?

I don't see why he couldn't just make his meta more of a scumhunting one :/

[Twistedspoon]

well you say it's similar to his town game

and what elaborate ploy?

[Twistedspoon]

I don't doubt he's town, I think all 3 of you are, but CES has done the least scum hunting imho

[Twistedspoon]

this really does feel like town muffin to me

reckless and joking muffin is town muffin

[Twistedspoon]

Eh, part of me doesn't really buy Hoopla's sacrificial play. It feels designed to buy her pro-town cred.

could be actually
VOTE: hoopla

[Twistedspoon]

oh, and I'm warning you in advance that I'mV/LA from monday until the 12th. (first week is no access, the second limited access)
If a force-replacement is necessary then I won't complain since there is little I can do to prevent my

time in the youth offenders camp

holiday and It may become rather tight access

August 12? (Equinox)

[Twistedspoon]

Fenchrch is a beacon of townieness

[Twistedspoon]

she still is, Hoopla

[Twistedspoon]

Fenchurch is a beacon of townieness

No she isn't.

I haven't seen you make an entire VCA spreadsheet

That is something I highly doubt scum consider doing

explain why Fenchurch isn't town then?

[Twistedspoon]

for your information

[Twistedspoon]

I have a feeling that PZ is pushing a mislynch in malpa

[Twistedspoon]

I have a feeling that PZ is pushing a mislynch in malpa

Hm. Why do you say it's a mislynch, Twisted?

Because I have a gut feeling that malp may be town. All of his play, even from NS suspecting copper from the start, has seemed too original and odd to be scum. PZ reads as a dark horse possible mafioso to me, along with Roman

[Twistedspoon]

do you even know why you're voting copper Vitamin, because I sure don't

If i had to guess the scumteam i'd say Roman, PZ, vitamin

I agree with Fenchurch on vitamin but want to see this through

VOTE: PZ

[Twistedspoon]

malp is town purely because he's been scapegoated by all of my scumreads

I see no reason for copper-scum. Interested in why CES and vitamin do

[Twistedspoon]

How likely do you think it is for all 3 scum would do that?

he's an easy lynch. I find some of his nonsense too bizzare to be scum, who have the most to lose.

Scum try to fit in. Malp most certainly doesn't

[Twistedspoon]

^is me

[Twistedspoon]

^Hoopla would be turning in her grave if You lynched CES

did you not read hoopla's town case on him?

[Twistedspoon]

NS didn't play by usual scum protocol

he didn't fit in at all

he suspected copper from the outset. Not particularly wise for scum since there was no case on copper and it would have made no sense for scum to get an enemy so early

also

^Scum, with or without Zito.

No, I actually didn't read it.

are both things I'd expect town to say too

the first quote because scum wouldn't want to make 2 enemies so early. Town have nothing to be afraid of so are fine with accusations like this

the second quote is just town modesty and things like this aren't usually admitted by scum

NS was town. That makes PZ and his other accusers suspect

[Twistedspoon]

Why does everyone say that I only say nonsense? It's anoying to be ignored.

Vote:CES

in addition, this CES vote is a huge towntell.

At the most CES is conf. town. At the least a CES vote would cause big controversy and attention; not something scu would want

scum would stay miles away from CES after hoopla's flip

conclusion: malpa is just a townie who genuinely suspects CES. why he does is pointless and irrelevant, but he's town

[Twistedspoon]

what's more annoying is that every single vote of PZ's is on either a flipped townie or a very strong town read of mine except from his post #1 vote on Roman (could be an RVS bus)

VOTE: Papa Zito

Unnecessary claiming. Everyone in the game will claim VT, whether they are or not.

^^ There's a healthy dose of cognitive dissonance here.

UNVOTE: Rory The Roman
VOTE: Amrun

conf. town

UNVOTE: Amrun
VOTE: Nobody Special

Somehow I missed Rory's response.

Maybe. Either you are a cheap joker who kicks the game alive at the expence of a newby, or you are a fairly obvious scum who fakes his cases by hiding it in complicated words. The conclusion is that regardless of your allignment, your current vote can't be taken seriously.

Way to fence sit.

How do you intend to determine whether I am A or B?

very strong town read (see my last 3 posts)

Yeah I don't think I'm getting my five votes in whatever few hours are left.

UNVOTE: malpascp
VOTE: Amrun

Let the games begin.


(cue Equinox in 3, 2, 1...)

conf. town

Bluh.

VOTE: CES

bluh

near conf. town

bluh

UNVOTE: CES
VOTE: Hoopla

This is stupid.

conf. town

I would rather, by far, lynch CES. There is that possibility, if you switch to him.

Three candidates, one is let's call very town, and one is let's call very very town, and one you find scummy, but you sit on your ass all day and don't push your candidate at all until it becomes obvious he can't be lynched.

malpa is just playing oddly. That doesn't point in any way to the conclusion that he is scum. If anything scum would take more care so it's a towntell if anything

[Twistedspoon]

conclusion: malpa is very likely town, PZ the opposite

a Vitamin lynch would also be desirable though, to a lesser extent

[Twistedspoon]

Reads

TOWN

{Fenchurch, Muffin, CES}
Malpa
Copper
{Vitamin, Roman}
PZ

SUSPECT

I don't like to use the word scum when doing reads list, but the closer one is to SUSPECT then they're real likely mafiosi in my eyes

[Twistedspoon]

the overall impression I get from your play

vitamin

is that you're trying to please evreyone or are trying to make as few enemies as possible

My impression is that you've been trying to avoid making confrontations and you've been almost

too nice

at times

For example when players have a problem you almost apologise or blame it on your self rather than stand your ground and cause tension

That's fair, but I didn't actually realise it was so close to deadline.

Sorry, you're right, I misread.

I have suspects that I will divulge when I see fit. I'm a cautious player and tend to be slow to place a vote.

not wanting to make enemies
I don't see why you kept them secret


also, what happened to your PZ suspicions as shown here?

Copper, why not join me with a PZ vote? We could get try to get a little counterwagon going.

Hm, I don't want to lynch Copper as much any more.

Unvote, Vote: Papa Zito

what has changed between these posts and now?

Conclusion:

Vitamin should probably be lynched, but I'd rather PZ went first. The last 2 quotes I posted look like a bus anyways

[Twistedspoon]

1)
2)
3)

[Twistedspoon]

this

PZ read gut-town to me Day 2. And I had a creeping suspicion Day 1 that I was wrong about him anyway, because he read town to me in the first few pages.

does not answer how your copper attitudes changed here

Hm, I don't want to lynch Copper as much any more.

Unvote, Vote: Papa Zito

what has changed between these posts and now?

you've already played the "Gut card" for your change in attitudes to PZ. If you say gut or lack of posting for copper as the grounds for his lynch I will not be impressed


finally

We went over this at the time. I was trying get a reaction not influenced by pressure.

is a flimsy reason for not giving reads

[Twistedspoon]

Well, twisted's really town.

I can't detect sarcasm over the internet

rather than lining up lynches (which is impossible in this setup anyways) it was more an illustrated list for my scumreads

[Twistedspoon]

whilst you make a "Coppers greatest mafia hits: 2011" complaition I'm going to see if RtR actually follows through on his promise today

I say we find out tomorrow. I'm going to lynch Zito.

This would have been a great post to make if RtR knew Zito would flip scum :p
He'll have made sure that he led the wagon on a mafioso by saying he'd lynch him a whole day before he could. Way to get town cred
either way, If Roman feels like bussing PZ i won't stop him

Copper could be scum If vitamin isn't, but I don't see the case on him. It'd be PofE really since I have strong townreads on Muffin, CES, Fenchurch and Malapa

I'm also interested in the views of Muffin as D3 he usually comes alive

Ninjas:

It was this post:

We are not satisfied with an Amrun lynch today. Given the amount of legwork we've put into showing flaws in Vitamin, malpascp/NS, Rory, and PZ, we are not prepared to bet today's lynch on Amrun's most recent flailing. Amrun's early game pressure that was rightfully aimed at NS was on point and, given some varied experience with her as a player prior to this game, we were both in agreement in terms of a gut town read.

This isn't to say that we wouldn't be wrong, but this is to say that we will not be joining this wagon as of right now. There are too many other players that we'd prefer to see lynched, and we're not prepared to concede our reads to the contrary majority.

Seemed really town to me at the time. In hindsight, he would have known that Amrun was town, so it's probably not so significant.

This post is your grounds for a copper-lynch?

Sure he could've known Amrun might have flipped town, but there's no way of telling if he's scum or town, genuine or not from this post
It's just one big null-tell

[Twistedspoon]

I ruined Equinox's streak of top-of-the-page votecounts

[Twistedspoon]

then you changed your mind about PZ (gut) and went back to copper (because you didn't like the case he made on you)

Is this correct?

If PZ flips scum then your shaky gut-based vote switches on and off him could look very much like a bus, but we'll see

I need to go. I expect Fenchurch to grill you in my absence

[Twistedspoon]

Fenchurch, does this post not convince you malpa is town? Even your suspect Vitamin is forced to agree that it clears malp

[Twistedspoon]

you are town aren't you fenchurch? Hoopla said you had lost your town sparkle, but I'll never know what she meant. You need to prove she was wrong
I strongly believe malpa is perfect myslych fodder and scum were probably expecting him to go today.

I don't know. I don't see CES as such a controversial vote - I'm not fully sold on Hoopla's assessment myself. But it's a different move to malpa's previous scum game, where he wagoned shamelessly.

it's also controversial in that he was nom'd yesterday. that draws unneccessary attention since the voting has been opened up. Would scum really vote CES today? that would be daft. Yesterday showed he'd be no easy myslynch and there would be plenty of opposition whether you agreed with Hoopla or not

[Twistedspoon]

TOWN

Twisted
Copper
CES
Papa Zito
Rory
zMuff
malpa
VitR

SCUMMY

talk about your PZ read. Vitamin's case on PZ town was at best unconvincing gut and at worst zilch. This is your chance to explain why PZ is town

[Twistedspoon]

CES, talk about copperscum whilst you're here

where do you stand with PZ and vitamin too?

[Twistedspoon]

show me the push from the other game and the post you're referring to in this one

we'll see if I can spot the similarities

[Twistedspoon]

that's just great; 6 players on 1 vote each

[Twistedspoon]

I'll vote vitamin if I don't find the support for a PZ wagon in Muffin and Roman. I expect Roman to support me though as he promised to lynch PZ today, and Muffin knows scum when he sees it

[Twistedspoon]

Committing time to this later today. I mostly agree with #900 (replacing my name with Twisted). I could see PZ being scum just from PoE. Anyway, more detail etc later.

Y'see Muffin and I are on the same wavelength here
I knew I could rely on you

@Vitamin: If copper was scum, don't you think he'd have joined your fast-moving wagon in #932?

[Twistedspoon]

I don't always advertise for replacements in my modded games

but when I do, It's urgent

[Twistedspoon]

messed up the tags there

I really need a replacement for my mini normal

thanks

[Twistedspoon]

got one

it doesn't matter now

[Twistedspoon]

so you came to the same conclusion as me then?

well I agree with the scumteam
if any of them flip town then copper is the 3rd

[Twistedspoon]

Is this what you mean?

Vote Count 1.23

Amrun (6) - Hoopla, Cogito Ergo Sum, Twistedspoon, Fenchurch, zMuffinMan, Papa Zito

Papa Zito (4) - VitaminR, Amrun, Rory the Roman, malpascp
VitaminR (1) - Copper

Not Voting (0)

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

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I'm no good at VCA really
PZ was on the amrum wagon and that's good enough for me (yes, I was too, but I know I'm not scum)

[Twistedspoon]

Twisted: I'm kind of surprised to see your switch in #797. Prior to that you'd said that you thought Hoopla provided more content than the others, and you seemed reluctant to buy the meta-argument on CES. You also noted that scum would probably want to see Hoopla go the most. So what caused the about-turn to a Hoopla vote? (And presumably, for you to stick with her lynch.

for the reason I gave of course

hoopla could have been protecting CES to gain towncred. It looked like it, and I felt they were both town anyways, but hoopla would be the biggest threat were she mafia. I think she's hardest to read

[Twistedspoon]

I'm annoyed that you find me scummier than PZ but each to their own I suppose

[Twistedspoon]

Wow, the only vote on me was a vitamin RVS

I never play this good

[Twistedspoon]

I don't like PZ's vote parking from D1

nor who it's on

[Twistedspoon]

I don't remember PZ doing much pro-town at all

oh yeah, leading the Amrun wagon

[Twistedspoon]

not sure what links I have to vitamin that you're talking about, but I'll let it slip for now since I'm off to Swansea camp tommorow and really need some rest

It's a shame the 2 people I really wanted to hear from haven't been around this day phase. oh well

[Twistedspoon]

proddodge.... even though I'm V/la for another week

anyways, you've only done 2 pages, so I can't be missing too much

I'll make this short. PZ is scum because he was the only one who wasn't an obv or conf. townie on the Amrun wagon, and I'll take some convincing indeed to believe it had 0 scum on it

[Twistedspoon]

Glad you've still got some access Twistedspoon. Yeah we've only got about 4 active players right now I think.

well I don't really have access

come a few hours I'll be V/la for another week but if you're only going to get through 2 pages again then once I return from next week the active times may roll on as things get smoother for me. I'm holidaying in Austria Y'see

still, It's nice to be welcomed back

so do you believe there was at least one scum one the Amrun wagon Fenchurch? If so it's almost certainly Zito

[Twistedspoon]

I find it highly unlikely that the Amrun wagon is 100% town
I find it also highly(?) unlikely that Muffin is mafioso

Therefore I find it highly likely we have a mafioso in PZ

Also, his last 7 or so posts seem to have little content, reek of pushing the malpa myslynch and just really look like overconfident scum to me with the (well you haven't got a case on me) nonsense

my vote stays on PZ as i go V/la part 2

[Twistedspoon]

Ok, Pz is still obvscum and rory's vote looks incredibly like a bus to me. PZ can go first though. There's no way that the Amrun wagon was 100% town

BB is stalking my games it would appear. I grew quite fond of copper, so Bb, you have big shoes to fill. What is your previous mafia experience btw?

My V/LA is causing poor play in many of my games, but i'm determined to see this Pz lynch through

Finally, I don't want this to look like blackmailing your vote at all Fenchurch, but you will look suspect should Pz flip scum with your lukewarm read on him and hoopla's dying words being suspicion on you

[Twistedspoon]

you should probably read the whole game rather than just D3. That'd be cool

I have a radical idea to present once I get back from Vla but it involves my febchurch and vitamin reads switching places :/

[Twistedspoon]

you should probably read the whole game rather than just D3. That'd be cool

It's quite the feat to do, that's all.

Don't have much to do tomorrow I suppose I could devote part of the day to doing so.

That'd be smashing

having replaced into a game previously of 42 pages in length, I can share your pain, but You'll always be behind until you read it all

[Twistedspoon]

Twisted, I hope you aren't thinking about holding that "bomb" for two more weeks...

This game is needing RCP.

you mean 1 week :p

basically I think Vitamin is townier than Fenchurch. That's all. If hoopla found fenchurch suspicion, then I sure can

Furthermore Fenchurch disagrees with me on nearly evey read of mine. From PZ to muffin and malpa.

Wheteher you agree with the PZ case or not he's still the bestb lynch for the info his flip would provide on players like rory and fenchurch (who I think are his buddies right now, but I#m far more sure of PZ scum than the other 2)

[Twistedspoon]

right, rory is definately scum

the promises to lznch zito (who I was right about :smugface: extend so far back it's an obvbus)

fenchurch or vitamin are the last scum

quilford and malpa are 99% town

[Twistedspoon]

VOTE: Roman

trust me here like you trusted me on PZ (who I made a very good case on in my mind whilst on holiday heer in Austria and am slightly dissapointed that it is now obsolete)

well done for eliminating muffin, he was the best lynch even though we were all obvtown

I return from holiday on saturday. Forgetting that I'm here will cause... consequences when I return.
The nerve the scumteam have for putting me up too. It only confirms mz suspicions that I'm a threat to them and my reads are correct.

[Twistedspoon]

okay, my time is very limited. I have an angry austrian making bizzare gestures at me right now whilst I'm on this computer.

I'm 99% sure rory is scum. I have reasons but no time to explain them. Either lynch him or no-one until i return would be great. I realise my V/la is frustrating, but I only trust 3 of you

to Quilford: what is your read on me?
to BB: As pleased that I am that you have a town read on me I find it awkward that you only mention one thing I've done that you found town and then dismissed me. As pleased that I am with your conclusion, the little you have mentioned me, yet putting me as your top town read is a little sheepy sheep to me. It'd be real swish if you explained your read on me

I feel if we lynch rory today and keep the obvtown quad of myself, quilford, malpa 8and to a lesser extent ) BB alive this should be won

I really think rory is scum. He is a living PZ bus. From the way he swore to lynch him from D2 to his removal of his PZ vote D3 but still with the promise to hammer (so a bus without the downside of the vote. Credit should PZ die as he'd flip scum, yet not actually hurting his chances by voting PZ)
That and rory was just as scummy as PZ and the obvtownieness of other candidates that I have already mentioned (malpa in particular) makes him the best lynch

Fenchurch looks very suspect for her initial lukewarm stance on PZ D3 and that she only voted him when I told her she may look scummy if her vote stayed off him should PZ flip scum. She had no choice but to vote PZ were she scum

I feel if we lynch rory, then fenchurch and vitamin if the game is still going, we will have our win

until I reurn, don't have too much fun.
Welcome to Quilford too as this is the first chance I have to say that

I need to go now. Angry Austrian man is persistent
TS

[Twistedspoon]

That post is cute but

holy shit

it makes me want to lynch you

Why? I think Fen makes sense in both Rory/Fen scumteam and Vit/Fen scumteam so I think we'd be best off lynching her.

Why did you vote her?

agreed

VOTE: Fenchurch

I told you malpa was town btw. Did fenchurch not see his townslip?

still think Rory is suspect though, and explains well why muffin was nominated twice. Not liking his attitude to me either

Quilford and BB still need to answer my questions or I might consider a BB vote

[Twistedspoon]

vitamin still has gut town spells on me
whereas Rory is being the bane of my existence. I'm having a hard time squatting by this Austrain public PC whilst reading his posts

BB needs to stop buddying and answer questions. I think he's town but if rory is somehow town I'll look at him

[Twistedspoon]

btw, can I stress that I take this game very seriously despite my current low activity. It is the only game I'm in atm so I have 100% focus on it. As such rory's attack on me is very frustrating. I must be an easy target to attack when I have to post from this calculator.

As much As I love Fenchurch's playstle, my vote will have to remain on her unless a rory wagon gains momentum. Her malpa votes are not great anyways. I will defend malpa until I fall or am replaced

BB needs to explain why I'm town and Quilford his read on me. I asked these questions earlier

If someone could ISo PZ that'd be swish. why hasn't it been done yet????

[Twistedspoon]

TS is obv-town upon ISO

sigh

how am I supposed to tell if this is sheeping off of the common read or not without reasons?

[Twistedspoon]

Fenchurch is my scum #2, so would be up for lynching her as well.

what has changed here then vitamin?

[Twistedspoon]

FFs I lost my post. I hate this machine

vitamin - fenchurch scumteam is now viable again with vitamins complete U-turn in that he's saying fenchurch is town without reason. Address this please

PZ needs isoing in light of his flip

Roman will be town if vitamin and fenchurch are the scum so apologies there, even if he does need to respect that I'm posting on one of the worst contraptions since the difference machine.

[Twistedspoon]

twisted you're just transparent that's all there is to it

I thought you knew better than to just dismiss me as that

remember my fakehammer on farside? How transparaent did you think that was eh?

I care more about good scumhunting than votes on me

I'm also seeing parralells between PZ and fenchurch now. Both have said little but "make a case on me" when a wagon has formed on them (athough I only have time to briefly read here so apologies in advance. I'll make a better case when I return) and Unless Fenchurch gets that vote off of my malapssdfa then my vote feels very comfotable...

[Twistedspoon]

twisted you're just transparent that's all there is to it

I thought you knew better than to just dismiss me as that

remember my fakehammer on farside? How transparaent did you think that was eh?

You weren't transparent that game at all.

my point was that you know I can feign transparency as I feigned a seemingly-transparent quickhammer on my scumbuddy to win the game

I would rather be seen as mastermind scum than 'transparaent' town anyday. Where's the fun in that?

A hammer this early in the day would make me not a happy camper at all. You've already hammered twice in my absence, once on the wagon that I created too >_>

[Twistedspoon]

told you guys

that's 2 correct for me

rory protecting fenchurch last minute is noted. I will probably vote him tommorow

[Twistedspoon]

I'm not going to argue, the 3 are more obvtown than ever before

I'm certian scum is vitamin or rory, just look at who wasn't on the fenchurch wagon.
BB is an obv myslynch. He's no way scum. Just look at copper.

If anyone is lynched but vitamin or roman in my absence when we get to choose I will be annoyed

roman is Obvscum. pushing BB way too hard, #1165 looks very fake. Not liking his dismissal of my suspicions against him with a post hoc either. and the way he avoided voting fenchurch is very suspect too, as was his vendetta against PZ before making a case. The fact that he hasn't nom'd BB and is leaving him for myslynch fodder tommorow is annoying too

Before I choose who to vote I want to know which of quilford or malp is most pro-BB
I would rather kill a BB hater than a BB supporter like myself. BBcopper is still probtown and should not be lynched before Roman.

To BB) who is your top suspect

[Twistedspoon]

God yes knew it was fen

I said it first (2 day phases ago actually)

[Twistedspoon]

hmm

maybe BB could be scum, or fenchurch is wifoming us

[Twistedspoon]

either way, I've caught 2 scum and am open to suggestins. Might look over BB when I return, but copper was strong town to me

[Twistedspoon]

sorry malpa but I want this day to end. Until next time

VOTE: malpa

[Twistedspoon]

okay, fenchurch not hammmering BB is lynchworthy. I can approve of this. If BB is town then I'm certain it's rory though

[Twistedspoon]

Everything still points to it being between Rory and BB.

agreed

[Twistedspoon]

though I'll never forgive myself if the last one was vitamin

[Twistedspoon]

twisted your last few posts have strongly made me doubt my read on you

that's more like it. That's the quilford I know

but seriously, my points are valid.

If BB was scum then fenchurch would have hammered, no to appear very town

what have I done to annoy you now?

[Twistedspoon]

this game would be so much easier if I knew who the copper heads were

[Twistedspoon]

I like BB

[Twistedspoon]

this game is stagnating though and I think we've won anyways even if BB is town

VOTE: bb
V/la is over btw

[Twistedspoon]

awesome

so glad rory isn't scum and I caught 2 myself :3

[Twistedspoon]

I thought BB's reads were odd like I said, but copper had played well in my eyes. who was he? :p

[Twistedspoon]

You guys, how could you have lynched BBMolla without me? I put so much effort into convincing people he was scum.

you did the same for me on PZ :p

[Twistedspoon]

another game where I dissapointed faraday it seems ¬_¬

well he knew the copper heads...

well I never fully understood why I was so town, so how did I do?

[Twistedspoon]

Quilford, you did a good job replacing into this game. You got a good handle on the game very quickly.

agreed here.

My basic thoughts were that PZ was doing nothing and by getting his flip and seeing how people reacted to it i could get the other scum. Fenchurch was very reluctant to vote PZ so his scumflip incriminated her and when she didn't hammer BB it was pretty much GG

I need to play more games like this if I'm so transparent. It@s usually only the scumgames I've messed up recently as BB and faraday can tell you

and with that I am in no ongoing games at present so....

/in farside's game

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can I nominate quilford for the best replacement scummy?

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scum QT is swish

you only know how well you@ve played when you read it from the opposite faction

@faraday: who is copper?

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scum QT pls

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I know

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this is the first time I hammered the last scum

and also the first time I was on all 3 scum wagons ^_^

and now to /in to a new game since this is over

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now would be a good time to mention that I joined this game without knowing the special mechanic and thinking it was plain mountainous before receiving a pleasant shock