RC wrote:Opinion:
Reaper: Nacho (or anyone really) would only hop off a wagon at deadline as scum.
Nacho: Hey, Hiraki left the wagon to follow me, and he was town. Therefore I am town.
Rhinox: If Nacho would have lynched me, we'd have blown MYLO. Because I am town.
You're off-track on all 3 of these.
How can you hold your opinion true since Hiraki jumped off the same wagon and wasn't scum?
Nacho is not arguing he's town, he's arguing your scum-tell is not valid.
Regardless of the situation yesterday, I have a big problem using the fact the nacho caused a no-lynch instead of mislynch as a scum-tell.
Let me ask you this: what makes nacho jumping off my wagon yesterday scummy?
RC wrote:The only thing you have used to try to find scum so far are 1. going after lurkers, and 2. PoE based on self-knowledge. i.e. WHAT SCUM DO.
I haven't gone after lurkers. To be going after lurkers I'd have to be trying to get someone lynched specifically because they're lurking. THAT'S the tell. Just because I've identified someone who has to be scum (if some other conditions are met) and they happen to be lurking/inactive doesn't mean I'm committing the "going after lurkers" tell. If you refuse to see the difference, you're either scum, or an idiot.
Also, town uses self-knowledge all the time. In what world is that a scum tell? I recently singlehandedly lost a game for town because I was in a lylo situation with 2 scum alive and didn't realize that a certain string of events that happened proved that another player was scum with 100% certainty from my POV. I got chastised pretty hard post game by other town players for not realizing that. So again, now you're either scum making up tells, or an idiot.
RC wrote:Another thing you seem loath to discuss is the fact that there were three deaths last night. i.e. at LEAST two kills, with one of them causing another lover to suicide. So what do you think it is? A vigilante? A serial killer? Two scum groups of two? I admit, I am heavily leaning towards the last option at this point, because for the life of me, I cannot connect a third buddy to you and Nacho.
How come you haven't mentioned this, either?
Wow "loathe to discuss", eh? Thats what I'm doing? nevermind...
2 scum groups of 2 isn't likely IMO because there have not been cross kills. There was also only 1 kill N1. That rules out an SK as well. Also, no lynches and game lethargy don't happen when there are 2 scum groups - each scum group wants to get the other lynched. I had originally assumed that krypt was the scumkill and a 1-shot vig took out zod/hiraki.
Regardless, 3 scum makes today lylo, and the other options (2+2, 3+1) means we're pretty much screwed even if we lynch scum today without some crosskill magic helping us out, so yeah. We should probably have massclaimed by now today actually.