Mini 1194: Reverse Mafia [Game Over]

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, being a new player who fails at being obvtown sux.

Vote:Pomegranate

because there was this one time where I got really thirsty and drank a whole bottle of pomegranate juice, then spent the rest of the day throwing up.

^^Pretty sure this is a random vote because it doesn't have anything to do with past games. @Awesoma: does it matter to you that some people are placing votes that "aren't random"?

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@Awesoma: I asked you a question

Why can't I make a random vote? Just because no one else is doing it doesn't mean I have to. Its not counterproductive at all to acknowledge something different is being done, but vote in the usual manner.

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@Awesoma: I asked you a question
Why can't I make a random vote? Just because no one else is doing it doesn't mean I have to. Its not counterproductive at all to acknowledge something different is being done, but vote in the usual manner.

tl;dr: You did answer. Just saw the more recent post.

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Why can't I make a random vote? Just because no one else is doing it doesn't mean I have to. Its not counterproductive at all to acknowledge something different is being done, but vote in the usual manner.

Here's a hint: When people are actually contributing, the RVS is over. There were already a few people that were major topics of discussion: Parama and I are the main candidates for revival, while Awesoma is being viewed as scummy. You chose to talk about none of us, so I don't plan on reviving you in the foreseeable future.

Here's another hint: I can still random vote if the game is on the second page, especially because 2 pages is not nearly enough information to be like "OMGTOWN," in my opinion. Unlike a majority of the player in this game, I don't think your play is a townread, and I don't think a few good posts by Parama=OMGTOWN, especially since he was so quick to hop on himself with an "Oh, works fer me!" vote. Idc about getting revived, I care about getting town reads. If that means going against some mob-mentality, then so be it.

Also, I did talk about Awesoma.

With regards to Slaxx's claim, the power should be used today. If we get two town alive @D1, we'll be at quite an advantage.

People I will not revive today:StrangerCoug, Awesoma

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Anyway, even though I think toasty's prob town, we should not revive him. He'd just be a hinderence. However, if later in the game we need to revive somebody to win, then we can just revive him. He'd be good as a sort of saftey option.

Read any of my games and you'll see that I'm not the antitown player you think I am.

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Vote:Parama

Yeah, I think he's town. L-1

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VOTE: Bub Bidderskins
Thoughts?

Actually, I think someone coming off as more town than both Bub and SC is being ignored in the discussion

Vote:Packbat

I admit I'm a little biased towards Bub because he's pissed me off so early in a game, but I am just not seeing where the town-read on SC is coming from.

People I will not revive: bobsnox, SC, wredfar, kewieagle, Awesoma, crypto (many of whom just haven't discussed enough)

Have no problems with AntB or Pom yet, but they aren't really obvtown

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@Pom: thoughts on Packbat?
I thought of about 20 responses to bub's rectify post, but all of them were obscene.

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73 is the first post that made me develop a town-read on Packbat. The way he reacted to the votes was also a town reaction. He acknowledged that he has no problems being revived today but still thinks Bub is the best choice for the day.

Enough ppl are against it to give me doubt, so

Unvote:Packbat

People I will not revive: bobsnox, SC, wredfar, kewieagle, Awesoma, crypto (many of whom just haven't discussed enough)

ELABORATE.
Also, woot, you just crossed off over 50% of the remaining limbolist. You're either doing some serious scumhunting and townhunting, or you're just calling out random names because you don't care as much about who's revived.

This is a temporary list of people who I don't want to revive today. bobsnox has bad wagoning habits and is very unproductive. I just don't see where the "SC is town" camp is getting their conclusion from. wredfar and crypto both need to post. like, really. Awesoma's early play was scummy, and the fact that he has disappeared means he's trying to distance himself from said early play. I agree with the scum read on kiwieagle.

The one standout on ppl I'd be willing to revive today is Pomegranate, but she is still on the bottom of my town list and as such I prefer Packbat, Bub (even tho he pissed me off), or myself.

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KIWISCUM IS TOAST. TOASTY TOAST. BLACK, BURNT, DISGUSTING TOAST. BLACK LIKE THE MAFIA.

Toasted kiwi. sounds pretty friggin' disgusting, unlike myself

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(Incidentally, does anyone else notice how quickly the votes fled from Packbat the moment Parama expressed suspicion? I would not be surprised if ToastyToast, StrangerCoug or both were scum seeking towncred, even if I weren't suspicious of SC already.)

Your missing the fact that I started the wagon/town discussion on you. There was enough suspicion on you to warrant an unvote. Why? because I acknowledge that I can miss something that another obvtown player sees.

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there's a reason we revived him so quickly. it hasn't changed. And Parama wasn't the only one who was hesitant to vote for Packbat, and his case was decent.

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@Slaxx: In regards to the revival thingy, if you think today is the right time to do it, go for it.

@malpascp: Parama was seen as town because he right away started to provide important information and started hunting. Whether or not competence is a tell is irrelevant because he came off as genuine.

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something needs to happen

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@malpascp: nothing in Parama's case came off as forced. And it was a good argument. Both lean to the town side of things.

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What am I thinking? Finish

selecting

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Right now, if either myself or Bub Bidderskins is at L-1 without me, I will hammer, and I will not hammer crypto, StrangerCoug, or kiwieagle. Outside that I'm open to negotiations.

^Ditto
@Everybody: Who do you like better: me or packbat?

I think there is like a split down the middle b/w the two of you, which is why I'd consider putting myself out as a third candidate (unless Slaxx decides to use his resurrect today)

still leaning packbat over bub

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Vote:Packbat

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lolwut? I was just watching soccer, and then I came back and thought Slaxx claimed scum (which is impossible given that we revived you first and therefore the game would have ended immediately.

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The quick revival of Packbat after the vote count takes kiwieagle out of my top town read and makes me question whether clearing him was a good idea. (I know, "decide, damn it," but my mind is screwed enough right now.) The other person to vote Packbat after the count already flipped town.

Even though multiple people said they would make their decision after a vote count? Not to mention the fact that it was becoming an incredibly slow day.

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SC explicitly said it, AntB said he would go to the Bub wagon, and my vote immediately after the vote count should be enough to assume I was waiting for the vote count as well.

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I would advise against bobsnox revive, at least at this point in the game. Having another killing role could destroy town :/. My power is also a safer alternative. That's all I'm going to say for now.

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you know, bub is at the height of my list too atm. There are a lot of people who just don't have enough content.

@bobsnox: your power is swingy and I don't trust it. I also don't understand why you had to reveal it so early

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We already know this.

because its really fast paced and hard to keep up with

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Can I have a top town read besides kiwieagle out of everybody and why?

Bub because no one else is even trying/is scummy

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Seems everyone is feeling Bub. So yeah, don't see any other option, as nothing has changed today

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I agree with Bub's revival. But I want to ask something to everyone.
@Everyone: besides Bub, who should we revive today?

Other than myself, I guess AntB? I really don't trust anyone else tho.

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I disliken the point that before bud was scumhunting, now hes stopped just because hes getting revived. As if though he doesnt wanna make a mistake which will stop that revive from happenin.
and I dont trust toasty.

So you don't like anyone?

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Packbat, why not malpascp?

Why malpascp?

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@kiwi: I was asking you a question. I don't understand your reads, because in my opinion they are strangely out of place. I was simply asking who you liked.

Bub, AntB, myself. Thats more than no one.

@AntB: I was answering a question. I've had a positive gut-read on you, which, given the lack of participation in this game, is becoming important to rely on.
Here, I'll give an order:
Bub Bidderskins-He actually did stuff yesterday

AntB-He's playing cautiously, which in this game is a good thing; not being too quick to trust anyone

Pomegranate-Nothing she has done is "OMGTOWN," but I don't have any problems with her

malpascp wredfar-I didn't like the fail he replaced into, but he's trying. The resistance of some people to revive malpascp instead of Bub is sketch

kiwieagle-Reads have changed from yesterday (wishy-washy). I wouldn't have a problem with this if he actually explained his reads. Also very keen on saying "I don't trust Toasty." Plz, explain why without using crap like LOLHYPOCRITE when I wasn't accusing you of anything-simply asking you a question so I could see where your mind is at/who you want revived. Lazy reads are lazy.

StrangerCoug-Played poorly D1, has gone all lurky-lurk

Awesoma-See StrangerCoug

bobsnox-Scummy power/ simply shouldn't be revived today (risky); I would need to claim to explain the rest of my reasons.


Bottom line: PPLZ AMONG THE LIVING, this game is becoming stale, so hurry up and act, hunt, and actually do something. You are dictating the game here. Not me, not kiwi, and not malpascp.

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When did my reads change?

Bud is better today.
With both Parama and SC being possible buddies, bud is better.
Oh and SC I dont mind not getting revived, im not a PR.

@slaxx
Im indifferent.
You are the one making the choice, do what you think is correct.
Toasty has played a bit townish.
though wtf was the point of point of post #189.

So basically you thought I was stupid but town. Now you "don't trust me," but I'm not sure why.

When did you say you were fine with a bud lynch(revive)?

you know, bub is at the height of my list too atm. There are a lot of people who just don't have enough content.

@bobsnox: your power is swingy and I don't trust it. I also don't understand why you had to reveal it so early

That was the first time I mentioned it (I believe that was at the start of D1). Earlier I said that I was a bit pissed off at Bub, but didn't think this made him scum. In other words, I was feeling a bit biased. But after I cooled down and looked at it objectively, Bub was still at the top of my town list.

WHen did you ask me for my reads?

My saying "so you don't trust anyone?" was me asking you who you wanted to revive. DO you trust anyone other than yourself? You never really answered malpascp's question, only said who you didn't trust (me, bub).
I should of said it in a less-round-a-bout way.

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Wredfar is mafia.

Did you ever explain this?

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mkay. could you tell me what you find the most town about SC?

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Has he said anything that struck you as scum?

Bitching about RVS too much, then calling you scum, pushing it until Slaxx said something about you. Now your his big town read.

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Um, no. CDB can't say anything about a power that may not be in the game. He's not going to confirm bobsnox's role...

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Has he said anything that struck you as scum?

Bitching about RVS too much, then calling you scum, pushing it until Slaxx said something about you. Now your his big town read.

Whats scummy about the first though....

Because he's nitpicking/calling things scummy when they aren't.

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For the sake of fair voting, I am not going to participate in RVS.

The hell? This is not the RVS; right now Parama's discussing player meta to determine who should be revived. Nobody's vote is random in either the usually applied sense or the true sense.

Who gives a shit? This isn't even why Awesoma is scummy.

How do our votes lack "true backing"? I voted Parama because he can be a vicious scumhunter, while my self-vote is admittedly a bit WIFOM-based as I don't see why someone who's been crap as scum lately would offer him- or herself to be revived unless the person is town.

Here your just asking for a needed explanation, but I really didn't like the WIFOM bit. Also, who is the crappy scum referring to?

Here's a hint: When people are actually contributing, the RVS is over. There were already a few people that were major topics of discussion: Parama and I are the main candidates for revival, while Awesoma is being viewed as scummy. You chose to talk about none of us, so I don't plan on reviving you in the foreseeable future.

"MER MER MER. I'm SC and I think there's enough evidence to revive me this early in the game! Anyone who ignores me or Parama is scum. MERRR"

ugh. Happy?

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A slip of any kind can be WIFOM, malpascp.

I don't really know how I'm supposed to comment on this other than that I thought a scum revive would immediately end the game.

@mal: he didn't say ALL scum are trying to discredit his point. He said ALL those trying to discredit his point were on his scum-list. Its a big difference.

Pretty sure suspicion on both Packbat and Crypto is higher than suspicion on Parama.

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I'm agreeing that you completely misinterpreted Parama's statement. Anyone who's not oblivious can see that.

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Hey look who the people trying to discredit the townslip are - the ones I find scummy! WOOP WOOP.

....wtf mal. Parama said this. You said

Did SC, Bub, kiwi and MrTrow all disagree you?
And there was noone you didn't say was scummy disagree you?
Besides, I don't think there are 5 scum in this game.

and I posted this at the same time Parama posted the exact same thing.

@mal: he didn't say ALL scum are trying to discredit his point. He said ALL those trying to discredit his point were on his scum-list. Its a big difference.

Its basic fucking progression. What else would I be talking about? What else would I be

Is Toasty agreeing with Parama?

agreeing about.

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I meant that Toasty is agreeing with Parama about his own towntell.

Wouldn't you have a bias if someone else said you made a townslip? I mean, I know my allignment...I guess you can say that I didn't really think anything of it until Parama pointed it out, but its the players--not me--who should decide whether it is actually a town slip.

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So basically this is turning into Parama-TT-crypto-Bub-Pom-AntB vs. kiwi-malpascp-MrTrow-bobsnox, with SC and Packbat as swing votes
Tell me: which side is townier?

If we disregard the slip, have I done anything super scummy? This strong resistance is very strange to me because all I've heard is "TT is scummy" without any explanation.

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And im not covering up my mistake, I feel the slip seems faked, and its not even a slip.

How exactly does a slip go about seeming fake?

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@MrTrow: You seem to be filling in "scum motivations" wherever possible. Do I think Parama is town? Hell yes I do. Buddying is not inherently scummy. Town do it too.
I expressed doubt on Parama at the beginning of the game.

My reads are very much my own. you said yourself that I was the first person to start the Packbat wagon. no one had said anything b4 hand. Similarly, Pom and AntB stick out as ppl who weren't talked about as much.

Toasty is trying to throw people together to discredit unrelated cases

Is this referring to SC? I was asked why I thought he was scum.

Split the town in 2 groups on this matter and calls for a decision based on the entire group. 'someone who looks scummy agrees with you -> you must be scum'

It certainly has turned out this way, but it doesn't mean I wanted it to. I also don't know where you are getting the "SCUMZORS DISAGRE WITH ME" thing from. Examples: Originally, Bub. Today, Malpascp.

Slaxx's gambit: I still don't get it. That's my excuse. The soccer bit was just me being social.

reluctant to admit the slip is the entire town-toasty-case (when just a hammer away)

Its not.

Additional indication for this comes shortly after the bobsnox-claim.
Toasty tosses himself up as a 'safer powerrole' as an alternative, despite the fact a bobsnox-revival was already off the table.

Being a safer version of another action leads me to believe that the unsafe version is...more dangerous. Hence, if people were worried about bob but would like some way of preventing scum from getting out of limbo, my PR is less dangerous than the killing version.

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Oh boy. Should I even respond to this?

1)So in order to say something, I have to vote? Last time I checked I put my votes down when I feel reasonably confident in my reads
2) I'm pretty sure the whole Packbat-Bub statement things were taken from separate days. I can also think 2 people are town. Packbat was a stronger town-read on me, but Parama and other players brought up some good points. Hence, I took my vote off to reconsider what was said. Then I went back on because I still had a town read. This is a basic progression of logic. Why is this scummy? You have yet to answer that question
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I also have no intention of letting you get away with using the read people have on kiwi/malpascp/bobsnox to discredit my case on you.

Guess what? When scummy people are saying things, their words should be taken with that thought in mind. If I think one group is scummier than another, who do you think I would find more truthful? None of the people on the opposite side have been obvtown, or even really tried super-hard up to this point. COntrary to the thoughts of some, I do not think this mean kiwi/malpascp/bobsnox is the automatic scum team. I would expect the scum team to take opposite sides on the case.

Also, isn't it the defenses job to refute a case against them? Reducing the credibility of a case, which includes looking at my opinions on the players involved with an argument, is part of this.

If you had genuinely congratulated them you would have been very likely town and presumably slaxx would have resurrected you for it.

Me congratulate someone I lost against? Before it was even announced? LOLOLOLOLOL
"unaturally forced." HOW DOES IT SOUND THIS WAY? The main advice I get to improve my town play is "I say things that scum would not ordinarily say, but in a very scummy way." Is this what you are trying to say? My action sounded forced and as such should be considered scummy? It was something I just sort of wrote, the same way I would write a text message or a facebook status update. Was it necessary? No. Does that make it a bad thing? Not at all. ITS NOT EVEN A DAMN EXCUSE. ITS A STATEMENT OF FACT THAT I WAS WATCHING SOCCER. STOP READING INTO IT. WHY CAN'T TOWN MAKE EXCUSES? LOLWUT? EVERYONE MAKES EXCUSES, ESPECIALLY WHEN IN AN ODD SITUATION OF READING THE GAME TO FIND THAT THE MOST OBVTOWN PLAYER CLAIMED SCUM?

There was no need for an alternative, it was an excuse to out yourself to boost your chances for revival, there was no other reason to claim, at least not one based on common knowledge

What's wrong with suggesting oneself to be revived if you know that you can be of help to town if you have access to your power?
Would you like me to just claim?

@Packbat: I have no problem with Bub being revived. I believe all the reasons for not reviving him were that it was possible he could be buddies with someone else. Given that half the players (albeit, the scummier half) are dead set on the idea that Parama and I are obvscumbuddies, I think I have the same reasons for not being revived. I would like to hear crypto in all of this.

A lot of the arguments against me look like people are just blowing smoke out of their asses. But that isn't up to me to decide, I suppose.

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What's a safer revive? Bub? Pretty sure we're at the same level given that both the reasons for NOT reviving us is....there is someone revived that might be a buddy.

@MrTrow: I need to re-read your post 2day, but I'm kinda half asleep atm.

Also, what Pom said.

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but yeah anyways I'm town and Toasty is town sup

<3

On our way to a win!

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would you guys revive me if I promise to shoot kiwi? <_<

lolno

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OK, so I haven't read yet but I'm claiming:
I am a Jinxer, which allows me to select one person who cannot be revived this day. This is what I meant by a safer alternative to outright killing someone, because it is temporary

I chose StrangerCoug because he was the scum-read of mine most likely to be revived today.

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So why Pom over Bub? I like Bub better today

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So why Pom over Bub? I like Bub better today

Is Pom less than 90%?

? I have Bub higher on my list than Pom. That's the only reason, don't understand why people are hesitating to vote him. It seems like he's been a possibility every day thus far, but each time the revive goes elsewhere.

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No, there's no way pom is scum in my mind. I'd hammer now but I'd like to hear something from everyone b4 doing so, especially crypto

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I have scumvibes from Pom but no one cares so whatevs.

If you explained said scum-vibes/backed them up I might.

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Well, doesn't look like this is going to go anywhere

Pom certainly was lurking, but what she did post was not scummy.
bob is trying to hard to get revived. I also think he's trying to gain town-cred.
malpascp and crypto suck for not saying anything
I still like Bub
SC's reaction to my ability was townish

Vote: Pomegranate

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Not voting Bub for the reasons Packbat mentioned. Not voting Antb because I don't trust Packbat either.

Oh man I'm gonna have to think about this, but I'm considering SC....

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Also, is someone going to claim the vote switch thing? If not, then that person is automatically scum. Proposing a mass claim.

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We don't know who did the vote switch. A mass-claim would lock them in place.

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Ok, I need to ask you this: what conclusion do you get if everyone claims VT?

That someone's lying. Town wouldn't lie about their PR, so they would have to announce if they did the vote switch. If everyone claims VT, vote switch person is scum. It narrows the revival pool

Also, unfortunately I can no longer trust any of the revived players given what happened, nor can I trust you given that you are involved with the vote steal. If we can figure out who gave it to you, it might make this easier. Also, there is probably more PR's amongst people in limbo.

Powers thus far:
Jinx
limbo-kill
Revive
Vote-control

Scum is going to have SOME power, so if these are in fact the only PR's, at least one (possibly 2) are scum roles.

if the scum-play here is to 'quickhammer' a tie and win on first-come-first-serve
why didn`t they steal your vote instead (outrunning crypto is a lot easier than outrunning you two)

Because crypto was dead-weight and stealing his vote gives little to no information to town.

So I think our revive today should be one of Bub or SC. Bub has ALWAYS been the second option. What does this mean? Would scum be on his revive?

More later. I'm going to examine my fellow alive people to see their voting habits/preferences.

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Mkay, that is like 100% a town power. So that leaves the suspects to cryto/ice and pom.
Do you think crypto could have missed the night phase to send in a kill? I really would not be surprised.

@malpascp: Not necessarily. There could be limbo-based powers.

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I was under the impression that ice replaced crypto b4 D3 opened, which means he would have been given the opportunity to send in a kill immediately

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@malp: If whoever targeted you was town who wanted to give you something useful, why did they fail to say that they had said power?
Not saying such is a scum-claim.

Only mr. trow has to claim now?

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...thereby protecting the third member of the scumteam (who, in that case, is almost certainly StrangerCoug)? I like it. It only works if the vote-switch is a one-shot - but if the power is one-shot, it's not stupidly overpowered any more.

don't like this only because assuming that the abillity is a one-shot in the current situation is bad business.

SC, trow, bub, bob, antB are our options.

Which scum-team combo would mrtrow fit into and why? I think we can make connections with almost everyone but him. this suggests that he's town.

Also: @IceGuy, ToastyToast: two of us three will be alive tomorrow. If scum win this revive on a draw, we must win tomorrow's - so who do we pick?

Not sure I understand you here. If scum revive today, don't we lose?

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@bobsnox: Exactly what IceGuy said. Thanks for making me likely to jinx you tomorrow.

Problem with AntB revive is that I can see a Packbat-AntB-??? scumteam
Then again, your ability as scum...scum-team's generally cannot kill their own members, so unless there is a town player who can kill REVIVED players, ability doesn't make sense from a scum perspective.

Mr. Trow was STRONGLY against my revive. This suggests strong opinions, not scum manipulation.

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@Trow: If scum have fake-claims, its probably one of a similar power to his actual. I guess it could be this game's version of bulletproof...

@Packbat: If bob were to shoot you b4 you were revived, would you have died immediately or stay in limbo?

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So the possible teams (in my eyes) are

packbat-antb-bobsnox(?)

Pom-bub-malpasc/trow(?)

I don't think ice is scum.

Parama felt that Packbat was scummy when he revived him. Waiting a day b4 killing him could be a strategic ploy.

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ahhh I get it. Well, my ultimate conclusions are that
1)I have no idea who the third scum in Packbat-antB would be
2)One of malpascp/SC/trow is scum, but only one of them (can't remove antb from a packbat scum team and can't remove bub from a pom scum team)
3) Who do you all think is the most likely town out of malpascp, SC and trow? We know they cannot be the scum team together. We know that SC was pro-my revive and malpascp and trow were against my revive. We know that all three have been considered scummy at some point, but that the kiwi flip and the realization that there is scum in the revived group complicate those previous reads.
Regardless of malpascp's alignment, I think giving him the vote most complicates Bub-scum.
Reviving AntB today is too much of a gamble in my opinion. He's null at best--we've just had negative opinions of the other possible revives.
Bob should not be revived today, but I promise not to jinx him.

This leaves the pool to SC and trow (from my view). Unless someone can make a good case as to why these two shouldn't be revived, I'm not changing my mind.

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Ok. SC or MrTrow should be today's revive. The question I asked (which I would like to be answered by everyone) suggests that SC is the least likely person to be scum of those 3 players.

MrTrow has been active and a great hunter. Awesoma sucked but he's put the name back up for argument.

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Ok. SC or MrTrow should be today's revive. The question I asked (which I would like to be answered by everyone) suggests that SC is the least likely person to be scum of those 3 players.

MrTrow has been active and a great hunter. Awesoma sucked but he's put the name back up for argument.

Everyone answer this plz. I'm ready to vote but I want some opinions, yo

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Vote:SC

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Very Odd V/La Coming up

V/LA from the 13-14, and 17-20

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revive SC or MrTrow today. Revive the bob 2morrow. malpascp not doing the townie thing and letting ice control his vote = SCUMZ4LIFE

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Sorry, who do you want me to switch to? I'm fine with SC or MrTrow, with bobsnox drawing a "MEH"

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because the only reason you want to revive him is for his shot. His play is scummy.

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FFFF I really trust the other 2 more...
but fine

Unvote:Vote:bobsnox

If this is our one shot, we have to do it.

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IM SO CONFUSED! WHY IS BUB GUARANTEED TO BE REVIVED?

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well that sucks.

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malpascp: you are dumb. You just claimed scum.

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@Delibird:.....didn't I jinx malpascp?

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yeh...im kinda mad because I think town played WAYYYY better than scum.

but it was a fun game and I enjoyed my role. I think the voting ability was too much scum-power for a mini game, but it would probably work better in a large, where enough ppl can overwhelm the vote-switch ability

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yeah I pretty much had the same reads. Wuts strange is that one of the reasons I thought Pom was town was that she came off as not really caring if she was revived or not (hmm VT?). So yeah, if we had revived Bub instead (the other option that day), the game would've turned out differently, methinks.

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Town definitely needs an information role. Also, summoner isn't that powerful because although it can get you closer to wincon, it also kills off a town player, with the possibility if a scum replacement. Something about that role was..meh.

I like my role and strong spirited townie and purger, but there definitely needs to be an investigative...or maybe a vote block to counter the vote switcher?

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That was a fail on my part because I sent my night action in on malpascp twice anyways. But I never mentioned it. I think it was better that way at least.