Any Band U-Pick (Town Wins)

[nintendoaddict1]

Vote: EPM

L-2 since Nintendo unvoted.

What's your band again?

What point is there in mentioning me in your post? Why not just say "L-2 since I just voted"?

He was previously L-2 before you switched to ToD.

Not what I asked. Why did you bring me into your post?

[Parama]

Requesting Replacement

this just started at the worst possible time for me, sorry Slaxx :<

[Seraphim]

Mod: I will be V/LA from July 3rd to July 10th

[Parama]

^you should replace out too

[Seraphim]

I can handle it. If the mod feels I should replace out, I will, but I don't think I need to.

[diddin]

Vote: EPM

L-2 since Nintendo unvoted.

What's your band again?

What point is there in mentioning me in your post? Why not just say "L-2 since I just voted"?

He was previously L-2 before you switched to ToD.

Not what I asked. Why did you bring me into your post?

To remind people I'm not L-1ing him.

Why are you so upset about it?

[CSL]

Why isn't EPM lynched yet? He claimed VT.

[Furry]

They should end the day outside of a few specific circumstances or it makes the role overpowered for the town. The role literally gives the town two lynches, which eliminates night actions which if the game is remotely balanced is the area of the game where scum has the edge.

what is this i dont even

In case you haven't noticed, scum tend to win more often than town. One dayvig is not going to reverse that advantage, though it might work to neutralize it. (More on this after a certain game ends.)

I disagree, that role (as well as tracker) are two of the most underestimated roles in the game. If they are played and claimed right, town would win more games. Hint - Day vig should act as policy vig.

In fact, no, I don't, unless it

also

counts as "trying too hard to look town."

Well guess what hun, it sure isnt. Neither of them are for one reason, a one word reason. "Subjectiveness"

And yet you don't complain when I say things like "Gaoth feels forced" or "DH feels genuine."

"Trying too hard" is the same concept. If you're Trying Too Hard, your posts feel forced, thus making you scummy.

You are rediculous. I guarentee you if you have actually "caught" someone for trying too hard, you got lucky and probably only got them lynched because they did something ELSE scummy. It would be like me catching someone for being the first one to cast a second vote on a player, sure im going to get lucky and catch scum at times, but more like then not im going to approach scum populus percentage. Its a crappy tell that for some reason has caught on and gotten mixed up with aspects of active lurking so a few think it is valid.

Anyway - Why do you imply nintendo town in your catchup then call him scum in your final post?

I don't imply nintendo town - if I do, you're reading it wrong. My comment on his 309, if anything, implies I think he's scum ("how is [you being mislynched] a problem for any of us" because you can only be mislynched if you're town, which I don't think he is), and I don't know what else you could be talking about.

You say "before I got my role" he read as scum, which should mean that he no longer reads as scum. Although it also can be you trying too hard to look town by saying that you read the game before you got your role.

Why is EMP scum, you say he can go either way in your notes but he is a top four read?

...Have you read epm's posts recently?

Yes I have. He is town. His reads are mostly right, his claim lines up with non-scum claim. Try again.

Votes not moving, catchup post is from scum. Note the distinct lack of explained stances, on anything. Note the distinct lack of reads that dont differ from almost every other player. Note the distinct LACK OF A VOTE.

My vote is fine where ani left it, thankyouverymuch.

Clever trying to stay off the top mislynch wagon for one that never is going to go anywhere while throwing up a purely subjective case.

@any vig

- If you kill ToD tonight I will sheep you for the rest of the game.

@anyone who thinks EMP is town - Counterwagon is ToD

@CSL - Its a VT claim from VT. Dont be dense here. Is your arguement that scum who pulled a wagon off a high voted pplayer went from no votes to L-2 in a short period of time with no attempts from anyone to create a counterwagon and decided to claim VT? Ha. Only way EMP is scum is if his partners are lurkers.

[Pine]

Sorry folks, I've been at a training all week, and thought I'd have better access. I had a little, but that was devoted to slower games that I didn't have a massive backlog of pages for.

I'll try to catch up over the next 24 hours before I go on a brief V/LA with no expected access for a couple of days.

[Juls]

Started my reread, too tired to finish. I will have it up tomorrow.

[nintendoaddict1]

Vote: EPM

L-2 since Nintendo unvoted.

What's your band again?

What point is there in mentioning me in your post? Why not just say "L-2 since I just voted"?

He was previously L-2 before you switched to ToD.

Not what I asked. Why did you bring me into your post?

To remind people I'm not L-1ing him.

Why are you so upset about it?

Never said you were.

And you still haven't answered the question.

Why did you feel the need to remind everyone that I had unvoted?

[diddin]

Never said you were.

And you still haven't answered the question.

Why did you feel the need to remind everyone that I had unvoted?

BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK I WAS PUTTING HIM AT L-1. CHRIST YOU ARE DENSE.

[nintendoaddict1]

Never said you were.

And you still haven't answered the question.

Why did you feel the need to remind everyone that I had unvoted?

BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK I WAS PUTTING HIM AT L-1. CHRIST YOU ARE DENSE.

I'm sure people can figure out for themselves who has how many votes. You don't need to tell them, unless you think they are ALL dense.

[Slaxx]

I don't have time to fuck with replacing tonight, I will do it hopefully Sunday.

[Trumpet of Doom]

Heh, what unrelated reasons would those be, hm?

Glad you asked.

In iso 9, you agree with ani's reason for thinking Furry's scum, thereby implying you think ani's town (or if not, why would you have posted it?); in iso 13, you call the ani-Furry interaction distancing, implying you think ani's scum. There are fourteen minutes in between these two posts. Remember that number, it'll be important later.

Isos 28-32 and 34: you try to attack Seraphim for a "slip" that isn't a slip at all. (If I thought English wasn't your first language, I

might

let this slide, but you're from Ontario, which is in the English-speaking part of Canada IIRC.)

Iso 38: "I'm one of the 20 out of 100 people who are town when they do this, really!" Does this one really need explanation?

Isos 47-49: Remember the "slip" you were attacking Seraphim for earlier? Now you're claiming he changed his opinion over

seventeen

minutes and is therefore scummy. You made a much larger change in opinion over

fourteen

minutes (see above), so you have negative room to call Sera scummy for that unless you want to admit that you too are scummy.

Those are the big things that spring to mind; there are probably a few more little things that factor in as well.

Response to things after post 442 coming tomorrow.

[Trumpet of Doom]

*after post 441, sorry.

[nintendoaddict1]

In iso 9, you agree with ani's reason for thinking Furry's scum, thereby implying you think ani's town (or if not, why would you have posted it?); in iso 13, you call the ani-Furry interaction distancing, implying you think ani's scum. There are fourteen minutes in between these two posts. Remember that number, it'll be important later.

Nope, just because I agree with someone on ONE subject does not mean I think they are town.

Isos 28-32 and 34: you try to attack Seraphim for a "slip" that isn't a slip at all. (If I thought English wasn't your first language, I

might

let this slide, but you're from Ontario, which is in the English-speaking part of Canada IIRC.)

It was definitely a slip, and you are covering his ass for it.

Iso 38: "I'm one of the 20 out of 100 people who are town when they do this, really!" Does this one really need explanation?

How is that scummy? I said just because something is less likely, does not mean it is impossible. In a recent game off-site, I was the Cop. N1 I investigated the GF. The chances of that happening were about 2%, yet it happened.

Isos 47-49: Remember the "slip" you were attacking Seraphim for earlier? Now you're claiming he changed his opinion over

seventeen

minutes and is therefore scummy. You made a much larger change in opinion over

fourteen

minutes (see above), so you have negative room to call Sera scummy for that unless you want to admit that you too are scummy.

His change in opinion was part of the slip.

Those are the big things that spring to mind; there are probably a few more little things that factor in as well.

Response to things after post 442 coming tomorrow.

Can't wait to hear what you're gonna pin on me next time.

[diddin]

Vig direct all shots at Nintendo plz

[CSL]

diddin is town.

[Furry]

diddin is town.

Nope. Infact he argueably just scumslipped that EMP is town.

Diddin says that EMP is scum because he scumslipped saying that nintendo is town. This means that if emp is scum, nintendo is town. Diddin is currently voting for emp though, so that means that he thinks nintendo is town, or he is baselessly voting for emp.

What is more likely is emp is town, and diddin knows that he is going to flip that, which allows him to push for a nintendo vig as there is no longer the emp-town qualifier before he could push that lynch.

unvote
Vote diddin

ToD is still a decent vig shot though

[Slaxx]

Hey guys, CMAR will probably be replacing Parama, just waiting on a reply.

[diddin]

False. The wagon never lost momentum. Maybe I didn't explain this well enough. I never thought nintendo was scum. I put my vote on it to keep the momentum so more scum would jump on.

Oh my god this reasoning is just awful. Lynch plz

THIS is scummier than any possible slip and is the main reason I'm voting EPM. The slip isn't necessarily 100% and Nintendo could still be scum. However, even if he is Town he is a good vig shot.

[nintendoaddict1]

However, even if he is Town he is a good vig shot.

The more town there are, the better chance we have at winning. Saying that makes it sound like killing town is in your wincon.

[Gaoth]

@TOD: Just to clarify, your main point against me is that one of my posts is too.....happy?

[evilpacman18]

Would anyone care for meta defense? I'd really rather not die.