After that, depending on the activity, I'll be setting up a deadline (at least one week ahead of time).
-HP
don_johnson wrote:des: i have explained it the best i can already. i'd rather cover it after the game. between my discussions with the mod and xvarts play i am writing it off as a mistake and i am not going to let it interfere with the game. if xvart is town, the speculation would be disastrous for town and take us away from traditional scumhunting. i'd like to avoid that at this point.
bobsnox wrote:deselby - why are you still voting me?
bobsnox wrote:I agree about Don. If Beck weren't so scummy I would vote Don right now.
bobsnox wrote:Parama - I think Coolskins and deselby are buddies.
bobsnox wrote:
You know what, I'm good with a cele lynch after reviewing his case again.
UNVOTE: Coolskins
VOTE: Celeboki
bobsnox wrote:Celebloki, deselby, don johnson - good lynches today.
bobsnox wrote:
UNVOTE: deselby
VOTE: Zodiark
bobsnox wrote:lol
I think Parama is right.
UNVOTE: Zodiark
VOTE: Hrezs
Celebloki wrote:My name's been popular today.
Celebloki wrote:@bobsnox Don's #335 did stand out to me. It paints Hrezs as scum either way for Zodiark and I agree with his statement. I am weary to to hop over as it would put Hrezs at L-1 and I am not necessarily ready to put him in a spot for a quick-hammer. I think Hrezs needs to claim though and is effectively at L-1.I'm willing to bet that Hrezs and Zodiark are scum buddiesand would be happy to see either lynched today.
Antihero wrote:Celebloki wrote:My name's been popular today.
AS IT SHOULD BE, you chucklehead.
You can't drop an uberscummy hammer like that and then bitch about getting voted after the fact. In fact, I don't think your name has been popular enough today; you should consider yourself lucky.
Celebloki wrote:@bobsnox Don's #335 did stand out to me. It paints Hrezs as scum either way for Zodiark and I agree with his statement. I am weary to to hop over as it would put Hrezs at L-1 and I am not necessarily ready to put him in a spot for a quick-hammer. I think Hrezs needs to claim though and is effectively at L-1.I'm willing to bet that Hrezs and Zodiark are scum buddiesand would be happy to see either lynched today.
Now, this is based on what?
Celebloki wrote:@Antihero If you actually read my post, or bob, or Don you'd know that in Don's #335 he connects them in the second part which I agree with. Zodiark has a wagon on him and Hrezs is distancing from him for when he flips scum.
Celebloki wrote:So you want me to invent some new case out of my ass?
Celebloki wrote:I'm not allowed to agree with other people's cases? I looked into the contradiction bobsnox pointed out and that's how I came to my conclusion on Zodiark. I am not along for the ride, he's scum. And if you actually paid attention I have not hopped over to Hrezs, I am still on Zodiark.
I know it's har har funny that the quick hammerer from the day before doesn't want a quick-hammer now but thats why I didn't hop.
You really seem to enjoy not reading all of anyone's posts and misrepping the hell out of them huh?
Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:
Hrezs has posted and isn't voting. There is an 80% chance he is scum.
so... I'm scum because I didn't RVS
note to everyone: I had posted once(twice technically) by the time of this post
Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:
Hrezs, Zodiark, don, xvart, and kondi all need to post more; they all have 5 or less posts, and at least one of those is pregame for each.
oh... Too bad the thread was locked when I came back to post
Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:
Hrezs wrote:Did some light skimming, I don't like Parama
Holy hell, Zodiark's 242 sucks. "Yay, lemme repeat stuff about don that's already been said. Don't mind me, I don't feel like mentioning the other 9 players at all. Just want to push this wagon. Bye!"
^the feeling I'm getting.
Repeat stuff about don?
Hrezs wrote:Parama wrote:
anti-town =/= scummy
sigh
and nothing about why I'm scum. neato.you have nothing except this supposed "scumslip" which was just you misrepping me, and blatantly at that. excuse me while I refrain from moving my vote
anti-town and scummy go together a lot of the time. At the very least your attitude was anti-town, at the most it was scumtastic.
Hrezs wrote:great arguments you have there
CooLskins wrote:@parama, I did learn that he admits to not scum hunting, and yet insists that he is pro-town. Also, good work on that their dodge.
CooLskins wrote:@@hez wagon, hez is lurking poretty bad. I could put him in a don/parama scum team. But don has to be today's lynch.
bobsnox wrote:His reaction is confscum to me. Hrezs is still a good lynch but Zodiark is just bad bad scum.
Antihero wrote:Celebolki actually said a couple pages before that he "wasn't comfortable dropping the hammer" or something to that effect. This cautiousness vanished in the subsequent pages for no apparent reason.
Celebloki wrote:Zodiark13 wrote:Hammering a claimed OSV less than a week since the start of the day just because the claimed OSV is a VI = scum
Zodiark13 wrote:And honestly, hammering a VI is hardly a massive scumtell.
Vote: Zodiark13
xvart wrote:This just reeks of faking a justification because you got called out on it. Someone is confirmed scum because of things beyond their control so you don't vote them?Parama, 281 wrote:The truth is that I still feel better about a Hrezs lynch regardless of the fact that you're confirmed scum, because you're confirmed scum mostly for reasons that are beyond your control and have little to do with your posting, whereas Hrezs' posting is basically a scumclaim.
Nah, not basically, it is; especially the one about my "scumslip" as he calls it.
xvart wrote:I don't find this explanation acceptable and you conveniently didn't even consider that a lynch can be biased as well.Parama, 281 wrote:xvart wrote:Parama wrote:OSV in a 13p?
pssh. all that would do is waste a lynch for the town. I see no reason to change my vote.
This really strikes me as strange. I don't think I've personally ever seen a full shot vig in a mini normal I've played but I have seen even/odd night vigs and a one shot vig is less shots than those so I don't really get the implication that a one shot vig in a mini normal is unbalanced or soooo unlikely. In fact, wasn't some of the justification for having the mini limit increase to a player base of 13 to incorporate a vig to increase town chances of winning? This just seems like an off the cuff reason to power through the lynch with no substantive base in reality. Based on your opinion do you think a full vig or an even/odd vig is even less likely than a full vig in a mini normal?
the only advantage of an OSV kill over a lynch is that it's guaranteed to come from a townie, but the major disadvantage is that a single townie can be biased.
xvart wrote:And this concerns me greatly since you were so adamant about him being lynched.Parama, 281 wrote:And I had a good idea of who Beck would've shot.
xvart wrote:So the difference between full vigs and one shot vigs is one shot vigs can only be biased once. Have you ever had a full vig claim on D1 in a mini game?Parama, 281 wrote:P.S. I've seen plenty of vigs in minis.
xvart wrote:This is such a scummy post for so many reasons:Parama, 281 wrote:xvart wrote:the fact that Parama isn't voting someone that isconfirmed scum
0_0
So you agree that CooLskins is confirmed scum.1
Even though, technically, he isn't. I just toss around the term haphazardly like a boss.2
xvart... why do you think CooLskins is confirmed scum?
0_o
Do you know something I don't?
Do you know something that the town doesn't?3
1You know damn well the context of the post is me speaking from your expressed viewpoint.
2Yet you still call him confirmed scum in this very post and back off of it because his being confirmed scum isn't his fault. Also, even if you throw it around "like a boss" the implication is still more than a casual scum read. Plus, I don't even see really see why you believe he was confirmed scum other than he double RVSed with Beck and some cursory responses to CooLskins. Can you elaborate on what double RVSing means and why this indicates if how one of them is scum?
3This final string of questions is just laughable at your attempt to undermine me by saying I was the one that called CooLskins confirmed scum couldn't be more obvious.
xvart wrote:Well I actually said your response was town because I was expecting a more flame fest with you accusing your attackers with an early wagon (which is ironic because that seems to be what you are doing now). And I really like your sensationalized account of don and I and are apparent "argument." Also, it should be apparent why I believe you to be scum which is equally interesting since you just railed on someone for not reading your posts to find your case; so either you are just trying to make me seem like I don't know what I'm doing or you are hoping I back down to your wheee authority.Parama, 282 wrote:your ISO has one point about me, and also includes you saying I'm town
whereas you have a huge fight with don including a wall-o-text-war.
What makes me scummier than him, just wondering? Because, well, one, you're wrong, two, it doesn't look like you actually think that.
xvart wrote:Gosh. Imagine my surprise that you aren't moving your vote off ofParama, 283 wrote:and nothing about why I'm scum. neato.you have nothing except this supposed "scumslip" which was just you misrepping me, and blatantly at that. excuse me while I refrain from moving my votesomeone who has claimed scumor refraining from voting someone who is confirmed scum. This is the sort of mudsligging/subtle threats I have come to expect from Parama scum.
xvart wrote:Celebloki has a good catch. Given the context of and his voting pattern around this time makes this is a solid case and wagon. I'll keep my vote on Parama until Zodiark has a chance to respond but I don't see anything that could really convince me otherwise.
Hrezs wrote:I don't understand the zodiark wagon. Nothing he's done has struck me as scum. Not saying I read him as town, but I don't see the case against him.