@NERUZ: I was V/LA. Why the FFF did you prod me twice????
From I read I don't see anything pretty important.
Hiraki wrote:Because meta is based on actions that people do when they're town or scum.Pine wrote:I think it's an entirely neutral insight into your thought process. Why does your alignment matter?
You don't even have a clear read on me, so therefore if I do something and you store it as information as meta, you must have some insight of my alignment that you're not sharing.
Hiraki wrote:Alright, fuck all of you.
If I see "gut" as a reason one more time, I will murder all of you at night.
If you use gut as a reason for a vote,there is a 100% guarantee that you are probably not town.
This is pissing me off.
Tomie Uzumaki wrote:Uprising wrote:I don't like how people are trying to draw connections between themselves and other people this early if that makes sense.
It was already asked, but who are you mentioning? You replied to this question before, but it was 'Haven't they also been trying to form connections', implying you were talking about other players.
Hiraki wrote:Alright, fuck all of you.
If I see "gut" as a reason one more time, I will murder all of you at night.
If you use gut as a reason for a vote, there is a 100% guarantee that you are probably not town.
This is pissing me off.
edmund.angles wrote:I'll join the mastin wagon:
UNVOTE: BowserVOTE: Mastin2
Mastin is scummy because he doesn't commit to anything concrete - all he does is to slap up a post and say, "See how scummy it is!". Then everyone can read into it what they want and there is no crap-logic to tear apart.
And if he's town, it is no great loss to lose a player that pulls a list out of his ass and then convinces himself it's true.
Tomie wrote:@Pappums
Your thoughts about some players actually seeing Mastin's lists at the start of this game as good?
pappums rat wrote:edmund.angles wrote:I'll join the mastin wagon:
UNVOTE: BowserVOTE: Mastin2
Mastin is scummy because he doesn't commit to anything concrete - all he does is to slap up a post and say, "See how scummy it is!". Then everyone can read into it what they want and there is no crap-logic to tear apart.
And if he's town, it is no great loss to lose a player that pulls a list out of his ass and then convinces himself it's true.
ROFLMAO.
Vote: edmund.angles
Jumping on a wagon that already has a bunch of people on it (many with no or bad reasons) for shit-reasoning like that is bad. How do you expect a game to start exactly? Mastin's "reads" were a way to generate discussion and get us moving from RVS. While they have clogged up other venues for scumhunting by generating too much discussion about the reason for his "reads", this was not Mastin's fault. He hasnt given full reasoning behind his comments for a reason as well (probably to gauge people's reactions) and that should be rather obvious, especially to someone who has been at MS.net for as long as you have. Your last line, about it not being a great loss if Mastin is town, is just awful. You try to exonerate yourself from responsibility by making it out as though it would not matter if he flips town because supposedly he is a hinderance to town either way. That is a classic scum move, and you are now my top scumread.
Vezok - 200 wrote: From I read I don't see anything pretty important.
Tomie - 199 wrote: You don't see the 'OMG, Mastin's bandwagon looks interesting. It should be looked at. But I don't care so I won't look into it. After all, my vote was first so there's nothing wrong with it' (Rhetorical)
In other words, Toon doesn't like it that Mastin has 5 votes as Toon thinks he doesn't deserve it. It should mean that Toon should look at it. But instead, he keeps his vote on Mastin and 'defends' his vote already.
Empking - 203 wrote: Can people please stop wasting their votes?
Hiplop - 182 wrote: only you(muffinman)pappums and now GI seem a slight bit scummy to me really. But nothing all that big.
Empking wrote:Can people please stop wasting their votes?
Maxous wrote:
Empking - 203 wrote: Can people please stop wasting their votes?
Who are people wasting thier votes on..?
vezokpiraka wrote:GreyICE wrote:Empking wrote:Can people please stop wasting their votes?
Fair enough
Vote: Hiraki
Back on scum!
Wasn't hiraki your alt??
I see hiraki and GI omgusing one another. Their egos are too much,
Hiraki wrote:Vote: Hiplop
Grey, I still have no meta so you're wrong.
Btw. he's scum.
Maxous wrote:Mastin - 161 wrote:
@Toon Fighter: Can I get on your thoughts on wheter you think Tomie and Hiplop might be mafia? And Edmund as well actually.
1) Tomie ISO: He seems town enough. I agree with him thatMastin's early game list is useless, but mastin looks town to me, his play style so far is similar to his previous games as town.I think he is asking good and pertinent questions, and is proving a good town player so far.
mastin2 wrote:Do you see anything in here which looks like it's coming from the mindset of a pro-town player?
...No?
Yeah, me neither.
mastin2 wrote:Seriously? You see this guy as town?edmund.angles wrote:zMuffinMan wrote:For the record, if you call me town, you too can earn a free pass into my town reads. It's that simple. Do it.
@zMuffin: Seriously?
mastin2 wrote:GreyICE's 'logic': People using meta are scum. (Or if not scum, policy lynches.) You used meta to clear me. (Faulty, by the way, since I picked up the tactic from Nacho when we were scum in Outdoorsmen Mafia 2. ) Therefore, you're scum. (Or if not scum, at least voteworthy.)
This is a fair assessment, no?
2) Hiplop ISO: His content seems to be very poor. He is also on the "mastin's lists are evil, kill mastin" group, but to me, the motivation behind his attacks on mastin seem scum-driven. He is providing little content and reasons for his attacksand is not giving good defences against attacks on him.He says mastin making lists trying to make him look town is scummy, but, if someone votes and accuses him for it, it isn't making him look town right?
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3) Edmund ISO: Very few posts, too many votes. I don't really see if his posts intentions come from scum or town, but it could be some scum looking for an early wagon to ride to an easy mislynch. But it could also just be a cautious townie. I need to see more posts from him to decide better.
Toon Fighter wrote:Why is there a wagon building on mastin?
Toon Fighter wrote:vote: mastin
for past game shenanigans
If you use gut as a reason for a vote, there is a100% guaranteethat you areprobablynot town.
tomie wrote:You liked those lists. It was one of the reasons you saw him as town. This was what Mastin-scum was trying to accomplish. But Hiplop doesn't share that same opinion. It's not a contradiction and you should know it.
tomie wrote:Just because I think Mastin is scummier, doesn't give you a free pass for your actions. If Mastin flips scum, you're likely town, but you'll only earn that status if Mastin flipstownscum.
tomie wrote:You have no idea why I'm voting Mastin and yet you say this? Nice job~
One post.GreyIce wrote:Hiraki's still scum, but he'll keep. This is staring me in the face right here, right now. Hiraki's combination aggression and passive-aggressive posts with 'helpful' "oh I is so town" posts like bitching about people gut voting.
zMuffinMan wrote:
@empking,
Wait, why did you leave pappums out of that list of 'wasted' votes? He's the only one voting edmund now. Unless I missed another edmund vote.
Hiraki wrote:One post.GreyIce wrote:Hiraki's still scum, but he'll keep. This is staring me in the face right here, right now. Hiraki's combination aggression and passive-aggressive posts with 'helpful' "oh I is so town" posts like bitching about people gut voting.
You're full of shit, you know that?
The only thing you have on me at the moment, withnothingabout anything prior where you actually called me scum, for reasons other than meta.
Grey, why is Hiplop not scum?