Open 322: C9++ [Game Over - Scum Win]
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Honest Abel Mafia Scum
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GMan Goon
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Vote Count 2.2
- Nobody Special (2): Kcdaspot, don_johnson
- Honest Abel (2): Amor, Darkcoffeejazz
- Darkcoffeejazz (1): Nobody Special
- SGRaaize (1): Honest Abel
Not voting: SGRaaize, bv310, projectmatt
With9alive, it takes5to lynch.
- Honest Abel has revoked his replacement request.I'm allowing him to continue in the game. I haven't even sniffed any interest in replacing, so I believe this is the best option to keep the game moving forward. If you disagree with my decision by all means come talk to me privately once the game is over.
- projectmatt has decalrd V/LA
- Day 2 Deadline is Thursday August 25th, 1:30PM EST.
"The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world."-
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Honest Abel Mafia Scum
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Kcdaspot He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Honest Abel wrote:What kind of fluff, holier-than-thou nonsense post is that?
Question for Kcd: why is DCJ town? I know you've said "look at his Day 1," but could you at least provide me a context in which to look at his posts? I don't quite agree with the town assessment for a couple reasons. I want to be able to see what you see so I can decide for myself.
I know i said this somewhere but:
scum don't point out their own scumminess. That asks for attention.
reading over... i'm kind of sad you decided to stay..A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?-
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SGRaaize Mafia Scum
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I like your reads on me, Honest Abel, makes me think you're town purely because of your logic and your reasoning on me being scum, you're wrong, but its not for lack of trying.I'm from EpicMafia and I love it there. Everything I say is now invalid.
I am a bad player, but I like to think of myself as the wild card that is unpredictable.-
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Kcdaspot He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Honest Abel Mafia Scum
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Okay, you're right, I do remember you saying this earlier. Seems to go against my idea of DCJ as being a swollen ego to point out his own flaws, so I'll look back and find the post in question.Kcdaspot wrote:I know i said this somewhere but:
scum don't point out their own scumminess. That asks for attention.
...Weeks later...
Okay, found. He wasn't pointing out his own scumminess. He was pointing out that he had no reason to be read as town. And as you put it, townies don't question town reads, do they?
The other weird thing is that you told DCJ that you know he's town after he only posted two times, and there wasn't much substantial going on there. You've been defending him the whole game to anyone who sniffs in his direction, immediately quashing any DCJ scumhunting, even begging for an NS bandwagon after their little spat. Kind of overboard. I could bet that you know something we don't. But I can't see a cop flaunting a town investigation at every possible juncture like that.
Why's that?Kcdaspot wrote:reading over... i'm kind of sad you decided to stay.."He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."ÔÇöJoseph Heller,Catch-22-
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Honest Abel Mafia Scum
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GMan Goon
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Kcdaspot He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Honest Abel wrote:Also, have you considered that his questioning of your town read on him and the two times he's tried to alienate you with somewhat derisive posts are due to the fact that you're basically molesting him with affection?
abel... dont put you in the corner again.
do not question moonbeams. in time you will understand.A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?-
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Darkcoffeejazz Goon
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I've seen you use that word repeatedly. What do you mean by "moonbeams"?-
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Honest Abel Mafia Scum
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Kcdaspot He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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shorthand reads evolved... my definition anyway.\
It's a type of logic that useally goes unquestioned especially when the player in question wiff the moonbeam logic looks town.
I saw a small towntell early (that i won't reveal for secret meta awesomesause sake) that become a huge towntell when he questioned his town read.
it's literally reading between the lines. if you can't do it yet someone who you have a town read on can, it's good idea to to look where he's looking. see if you can't get a glimpse of he sees. if you see SOMETHING along those lines the moonbeamer is prolly on the right track...
that's really the best i can explain it. you just have to find that sort of play elsewhere that is correct and deduce why it's correct.A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?-
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Kcdaspot He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Darkcoffeejazz Goon
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Eh, it's odd but not impossible to understand, I suppose.
I rely more on my subconscious mind, tbh.-
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Honest Abel Mafia Scum
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Kcdaspot He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Kcdaspot He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Honest Abel Mafia Scum
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Okay, so you're saying moonbeams is when someone who looks town to you expresses a town read of another player, and you're supposed to take that without questioning it? So you're assuming that everyone else thinks you look town? Or are you saying that DCJ looks town to you, so you trust his reads without questioning? I also did a google search of "moonbeams" on the mafiascum URL and read dozens of people using the term, but it generally seemed to have more to do with claiming than town reads. It all sounds like an interesting concept, but I really don't get it still, sorry. Maybe it's not that important.
I am a newb. This is my second game of mafia on this site if you don't count the one I dropped out of when I first joined over a year ago."He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."ÔÇöJoseph Heller,Catch-22-
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Honest Abel Mafia Scum
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If anyone else can explain to me why I shouldn't question Kcd's read of DCJ, please do so. I also reserve the right not to agree with it even if I begin to understand it. Otherwise, Kcd, I'm going to have to request again an explanation of why you are molesting DCJ by pairing bottomless town reads with strange affection and sheltering him from suspicion."He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."ÔÇöJoseph Heller,Catch-22-
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Honest Abel Mafia Scum
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Kcdaspot He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Honest Abel wrote:If anyone else can explain to me why I shouldn't question Kcd's read of DCJ, please do so. I also reserve the right not to agree with it even if I begin to understand it. Otherwise, Kcd, I'm going to have to request again an explanation of why you are molesting DCJ by pairing bottomless town reads with strange affection and sheltering him from suspicion.
eeh scum cant see or fake moonbeams.
you posts have just been "i don't understand."
you can't lurk? nope cuz you are WAY too busy defending yourself with lengthy posts.
yeah... VOTE COUNT PLZ
PEDIT: if you don't get it know you never will.
you are sooo hanging this game.A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?-
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projectmatt Mafia Scum
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Kcdaspot He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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projectmatt wrote:I'm going to bed in about 30 minutes. Not V\LA yet. :3
HEY, KDCA, should I put a vote on Nobody Special before I leave? I'm not fully convinced yet. I want to give him time to "re-group" before I call him scum, but dammit, it's tempting to stop waiting and give in to my gut.
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vote NS. Now.
This was not and is not a drill.A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?-
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Honest Abel Mafia Scum
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Kcd, my posts conversing withyouhave been "I don't understand" because you haven't mastered the art of the fucking comma. Maybe the reason you are reluctant to explain anything is because when you try, it turns out like #487. The way you are being so condescending and evasive is just fucking nonsense. I do not like that I am being misled and, in fact, mistreated by people I have town reads on. This is not a fun game nor a learning experience. This is a blood pressurizer.
Kcd, why don't you discuss NS or SGR with me? You are talking to me like I don't belong in this game because I'm inexperienced. I do not appreciate being talked down to.
Sorry for the attitude here, but I'm getting fed up again."He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."ÔÇöJoseph Heller,Catch-22
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