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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:16 am

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Judging is taking place, War Room shortly...
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:08 am

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Thank you both teams for submittings your assignments with such a short deadline.

Now, I will welcome both teams into
The War Room
where we will discuss your less-than-perfect submissions.


THE WAR ROOM: TASK #2

For those of you who just joined the game, I'll give you a little rundown of what happens in the War Room. In the War Room each contestant will be asked a few questions. The responses will help me get a clear picture of how well each of your worked together as a team. It will also allow me to determine who did well, and who didn't do so well. Somewhere during the War Room I will reveal both team's submissions so they may criticize or gasp at their defeat. At the conclusion of the War Room, I will reveal which team has lost the Task and ask the Project Manager to select two comrades to join me in the Board Room.



Team Eucleia
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[Project Manager]
  • How do you think you performed as Project Manager?
  • Who worked on Assignment #3 for this task? Why select a font that might not be able to be read by most people?
  • Who worked on Assignment #4 for this task? Do you think the image of the ferris wheel is clearly noticeable?
  • Who wrote the opening post/rewrote the text for this task?
  • Are you satisfied with your final submission?
  • Give me a summary of each player's work on this task and how you would rank them.

Team Eucleia (everyone else)

  • What did you do during this task?
  • Are you satisfied with your team's final submission? Is there anything you think could have been improved or that you would have changed?
  • How do you think Cybele performed as Project Manager?
  • Who on your team are the weak links, and why?


Team Excel
Leonshade
[Project Manager]
  • How do you think you performed as Project Manager?
  • Who worked on Assignment #3 for this task? Why select rainbow font for the title?
  • Who worked on Assignment #4 for this task? Who selected the font for the image?
  • Are you satisfied with your final submission?
  • Give me a summary of each player's work on this task and how you would rank them.

Team Excel (everyone else)

  • What did you do during this task?
  • Are you satisfied with your team's final submission? Is there anything you think could have been improved or that you would have changed?
  • How do you think Leonshade performed as Project Manager?
  • Who on your team are the weak links, and why?


Misc. Question
For Anyone

  • What are your thoughts on how the Project Managers handled the negotiation over a time extension? Did you think your team could have benefited from more time? Do you think either PM made a mistake in his negotiations?
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:20 am

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What'd I do?

Made the banner.


Joo Satisfied?

Would've been satisfied if the "Last player standing wins" goes at the bottom of the submission. I guess it worked out in the end, I guess.


How good is Leon as PM?

He's fine. Not bad, but he helped us out doing the whole Assignment #3, though.


Who're the weakest links?

Kiwieagle. Maybe Chevre. But mostly kiwi.


Misc. Question...

1You misspelled "negotiation" with 'negotion'... Derp.

Leonshade did very well, although he got sick overtime last night. I don't think there's much to do with beneficial stuffs with a time extension since it was just an Opening Post which was given to us with text to edit the stuff to make it look pretty fancy and stuff. So no mistakes.
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:23 am

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First, the font is Baskerville, not Bakersville. It's actually a common typeface.
Second, I'm needed elsewhere, but I will answer these in a few hours.
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:29 am

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What did you do during this task?

Not much, tbh. I am starting school and im overloaded with work.

Are you satisfied with your team's final submission? Is there anything you think could have been improved or that you would have changed?

Hmmm..... Maybe making it a bit less bland, but overall good job. (we should of used fonts aswell)

How do you think Leonshade performed as Project Manager?

Good.

Who on your team are the weak links?

Ehhh, probably CSL
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:30 am

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Tragedy wrote:
Who're the weakest links?

Kiwieagle. Maybe Chevre. But mostly kiwi.


Why are they weak links?

Same question goes for your response,
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:40 am

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Blackberry wrote:
Team Eucleia (everyone else)

  • What did you do during this task?
  • Are you satisfied with your team's final submission? Is there anything you think could have been improved or that you would have changed?
  • How do you think Cybele performed as Project Manager?
  • Who on your team are the weak links?


[01] For this task:
  • While conversing with Cybele, I designed the banner that was selected for Assignment 4. It was my idea to place the ferris wheel within an eye, and after posing the idea to my PM, I made several drafts from which to select.
  • I worked from 12:01AM-5:05AM trying to place text on the image in such a way to enhance the banner. In the end, both Cybele and I agreed that the resulting decrease in resolution diminished the aesthetic quality of the graphic, so we scrapped the text.
  • I engaged in conversations both within the QT thread and with individuals via PM. I was very vocal about my opinions with font selection, post arrangement, and the overall color palette that was selected for Assignment 3. I provided praise when it was deserved, but was also quick to argue against concepts that I thought would negatively reflect on our final product.
  • Lastly, I made additions to the copy that was provided for the task and helped to revise the layout of our Assignment 3 submission.


[02] Yes, I am pleased with Team Eucleia's submission. As a matter of preference, I would have liked to make the ferris wheel a little more prominent in the eye, but I think the provided work serves its purpose just as effectively. I also wish that I had been able to solve the image-text issue. With the photograph's size and the ppi level, I assumed we would have no issues with further manipulating the image, but it proved more difficult than I had anticipated. This may just be because it was almost four in the morning and I had been staring at a computer screen very closely for hours.

[03] I think Cybele was an exemplary Project Manager. Once our PM decision had been made, he immediately organized the group by creating a second QT. As the details of the challenge were provided, he quickly delegated tasks to each team member and exercised considerable creative oversight throughout the process. He provided content of his own, while at the same time ensuring that each active member had the chance to voice his or her own opinion.

[04] TornadoSwirl
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:41 am

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Why?

Kiwi didn't really do anything for this challenge. Same for Chevre, although she posted in QT and said she was going to do something.
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:46 am

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kloud1516
- Why is CSL a weak link?
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:53 am

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Blackberry wrote:
kloud1516
- Why is TS a weak link?
kiwieagle
- Why is CSL a weak link?


FTFY.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:56 am

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Blackberry wrote:
kloud1516
- Why is
CSL
TornadoSwirl a weak link?


He's flaked from this competition and from mafiascum as a whole. Not only has he failed to post a single thought in either of our QTs, but he's only made three posts on site. In my opinion he is less than dead weight to our team moving forward.
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:57 am

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kloud1516 wrote:
Blackberry wrote:
kloud1516
- Why is
CSL
TornadoSwirl a weak link?


He's flaked from this competition and from mafiascum as a whole. Not only has he failed to post a single thought in either of our QTs, but he's only made three posts on site. In my opinion he is less than dead weight to our team moving forward.


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What part in your post did you edit? Did it originally say CSL? :neutral:
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:01 pm

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Blackberry wrote:
kloud1516 wrote:
Blackberry wrote:
kloud1516
- Why is
CSL
TornadoSwirl a weak link?


He's flaked from this competition and from mafiascum as a whole. Not only has he failed to post a single thought in either of our QTs, but he's only made three posts on site. In my opinion he is less than dead weight to our team moving forward.


*taps finger to chin*

What part in your post did you edit? Did it originally say CSL? :neutral:


No it didn't. I found a misspelling and corrected it.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:07 pm

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What did you do during this task?
I helped with the rule list font's and such

Are you satisfied with your team's final submission? Is there anything you think could have been improved or that you would have changed?
I hope the font I suggested was used if not than I would change that.

How do you think Cybele performed as Project Manager?
He did a great job organizing and getting everyone to work. But if he sumbitted something else that Almost half the team agreed on than bad PM.

Who on your team are the weak links, and why?
People who flaked, ergo TornadoSwirl.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:09 pm

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Mist7676 wrote:What did you do during this task?
I helped with the rule list font's and such

Are you satisfied with your team's final submission? Is there anything you think could have been improved or that you would have changed?
I hope the font I suggested was used if not than I would change that.

How do you think Cybele performed as Project Manager?
He did a great job organizing and getting everyone to work. But if he sumbitted something else that Almost half the team agreed on than bad PM.

Who on your team are the weak links, and why?
People who flaked, ergo TornadoSwirl.


What font did you suggest Mist7676?
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:13 pm

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Papyrus but Cybele said that's a bad font but animorpherv1, Thomith, and of course myself agreed to it and only Cybele rejected.
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:13 pm

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Mist7676 wrote:
People who flaked, ergo TornadoSwirl.

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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:16 pm

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Mist7676 wrote:Papyrus but Cybele said that's a bad font but animorpherv1, Thomith, and of course myself agreed to it and only Cybele rejected.


EBWOP: Cybele wasn't the only one. I disliked the idea of using Papyrus as well, for reasons I can explain outside the War Room. This in no way means a great deal in the grand scheme of the team, but I just wanted to state that our PM wasn't a lone wolf opinion-wise in this case. :neutral:
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:26 pm

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kloud1516 wrote:
Mist7676 wrote:Papyrus but Cybele said that's a bad font but animorpherv1, Thomith, and of course myself agreed to it and only Cybele rejected.


EBWOP: Cybele wasn't the only one. I disliked the idea of using Papyrus as well, for reasons I can explain outside the War Room. This in no way means a great deal in the grand scheme of the team, but I just wanted to state that our PM wasn't a lone wolf opinion-wise in this case. :neutral:


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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:27 pm

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Tragedy wrote:
Why?

Kiwi didn't really do anything for this challenge. Same for Chevre, although she posted in QT and said she was going to do something.

True, sadly.
But: Giving false promises, is better than giving none at all? meh.
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:32 pm

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Blackberry wrote:
  • What did you do during this task?

I did some early work on the font and I did most of the wording.

Blackberry wrote:
  • Are you satisfied with your team's final submission? Is there anything you think could have been improved or that you would have changed?


  • I really really like it. I can't think of something that I would've changed.

    Blackberry wrote:
  • How do you think Cybele performed as Project Manager?


  • Much better than Mists's, with no harm meant to Mist of corrse.

    Blackberry wrote:
  • Who on your team are the weak links, and why?
  • [/list]


    TornadoSwirl, for obvious reasons.



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    Misc. Question
    For Anyone

    • What are your thoughts on how the Project Managers handled the negotiation over a time extension? Did you think your team could have benefited from more time? Do you think either PM made a mistake in his negotiations?


    I think it's fair for several reasons. If one team needs an extension, and the other doesn't, why should we allow them to have a time extension? Plus they didn't need it anyways.
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    Post Post #471 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:24 pm

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    I was a major contributing factor to the text, and I came up with the catchphrase we put on the banner.

    Final submission is poiwfect.

    Leon was a great PM.

    Spoon, kiwi, and Chevre didn't contribute at all. But Chevre said she'd do something, maybe we finished before she got back?

    The extension point seems moot to me because neither team needed it.
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    Post Post #472 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:54 pm

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    You do realize that both Papyrus and Baskerville are not universal fonts, correct? They're all very Windows-centric (they've migrated over to Mac, but good luck finding them on any open-source OS)

    http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesign-l/WindowsMacFonts.html is a better subset, but still not universal.
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    Post Post #473 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:02 pm

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    Before I announce the winner, let's view both team's performances...


    Team Eucleia

    Cybele[Project Manager]
    [area="Task #2, Assignment #3]
    [ Ferris Wheel: Kill to Live ]

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    [..][.:][::][::][:.][..]


    Round, like a circle in a spiral;
    like a wheel within a wheel.
    Never ending or beginning,
    on an ever spinning reel.
    Like a snowball down a mountain
    or a carnivale balloon.
    Like a carousel that's turning
    running rings around the moon.


    [..][.:][::][::][:.][..]


    To Whom it May Concern:


    Ok, here is the grave situation. All players are strapped into seats on a ferris wheel. None of you are going anywhere--our ride attendants saw to it that your restraints were tightly knotted before the ride began. But don't fret, for that is the least of your problems. At the highest point of the wheel, there is a machine gun that can obliterate any other player's seat in the time a player has to fire it before their seat starts to descend. Is this legal? Probably not, but who's going to stop us?

    How do you survive? It's simple: The last person standing wins! If you manage to dodge the bullets, you will be released from the ride with a box of popcorn and a sincere apology from our manager. If you feel nauseous at any point during the ride, too bad.

    Ah, well I digress. This game is ridiculously simple and barely needs a mod. Just as many people as possible may sign up. I would like to have 200 players. But I'll start it up if I can get 12ish within a few days. I will randomly put everybody in a turn order, and if people trickle in afterwards then they can just go at the end of the turn order. When it's your turn, you may
    Kill: Other Player
    in the thread. Then it is immediately the turn of the next living player in the turn order.

    If you do not kill somebody in 26 hours of it becoming your turn, your grip on the gun causes your arms to be pulled off and you die.
    Next guy's turn.

    I will not prod people when it's their turn; that is everybody else's job! I trust you all have cell phones, though, so you can try to persuade people not to shoot you, or make alliances, etc. Definitely talk outside the thread if you want--it could very well save your life. Happy pickings.

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    past the minutes of its face.
    And the world is like an apple
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    [/area]

    Task #2, Assignment #4
    Image


    [area="Task #2, Assignment #3 Intended Look]Image
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    Post Post #474 (ISO) » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:04 pm

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    Team Excel

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    [area="Task #2, Assignment #3]
    F
    E
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    R
    I
    S
    W
    H
    E
    E
    L


    Image


    Ok, here is the grave situation. All players are strapped into seats on a ferris wheel. At the highest point of the wheel, there is a machine gun that can obliterate any other player's seat. In the time they're at the highest point of the wheel, a player has to fire it before their seat starts to descend.

    You all have cell phones, though, so you can try to persuade people not to shoot you, or make alliances, etc.


    The last person standing wins!


    This game is ridiculously simple and barely needs a mod. Just as many people as possible may sign up. I will randomly put everybody in a turn order. When it's your turn, you may
    kill: otherplayer
    in the thread. Then it is immediately the turn of the next living player in the turn order.


    If you do not kill somebody in 26 hours of it becoming your turn
    , your grip on the gun causes your arms to be pulled off and you die. Next guy's turn.


    I will
    not
    prod people when it's their turn, that is everybody else's job! Definitely talk outside the thread if you want.

    I would like to have
    2
    0
    0
    players. But I'll start it up if I can get 12ish within a few days. If people trickle in afterwards then they can just go at the end of the turn order.[/i][/area]

    Task #2, Assignment #4
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