Mini 1195: The Beehive Mystery (GAME OVER)

[Sotty7]

Twisting in the wind.

[Magic Trainer]

I am sorry for letting two idiots take my slot.

[Sotty7]

That doesn't help me.

[Magic Trainer]

Feel sad. Very Sad.

[Sotty7]

[Magic Trainer]

P.S (Sorry for posting mod/ couldn't resist since the game's over.)

(Sotty, any questions I can answer after the mod scene?)

[racerman13]

Come on...really? -_-

Thanks MT.

[Whiskers]

So who won?

[Sotty7]

I think scum did.

[Klazam]

Thats a lynch.

Scum win this one.

Congrats, Scott Brosius, Tommy, and Llamarble.

[Sotty7]

Sorry town.

I am terrible in lylo's

[SleepyKrew]

Sorry for replacing out, and my replacement replacing out, and my replacement's replacement...
gj Scott.

[Klazam]

Anybody object to me releasing all quicktopics?

The setup was as follows:

3 Masons, 6 vanilla town, 1 SK (NONBP), 1 Godfather, and 2 Goons.

I think Town had a fairly good chance at winning this, but with the masons outed on day 1 and the SK not playing normally, AND there being a uncooperative townie in Lylo....

[Klazam]

I personally thought you did well, in spite of racer's uncooperative actions.

[Whiskers]

CURSE YOU ICE! I TOLD you to lynch scott over beck. I had no idea what I was doing, but still.

Oh wait no, that was scott. W/e.

[preedit]
stupid uncooperative townie!

However, I'll admit Scott played like a pro in lylo and he had me fooled.

[Whiskers]

Adding racerman13 to my greylist.

[Sotty7]

I really wanted to believe racer but he made it so hard.

[SleepyKrew]

Greylist? Is that like an IGMEOY pre-blacklist?

[Klazam]

Dead Room QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/eijjbfUh5jJ

Mafia/Masons, Fine with QT release?

[Llamarble]

Yay!
I have no objection to QT release.
What was the purpose of SB being a godfather?
Was he bulletproof? I was never clear on that.
SB played very well and did a good job benefiting from my death.
This was a weak game from me where I learned a lot, so I'm glad to have escaped with a win.

The end of D2 was pretty harrowing.

[Magic Trainer]

Sorry town.

I am terrible in lylo's

meh. don't blame yourself. I would have lynched my replacement out of anger as well.

Couple important questions though,

1. Why does no one read my posts? (This is referring to everyone lacking the knowledge that I suspected Tommy/Ivan and had a late scum read on Llama. Seriously, I thought I actually did a good job on being more concise and content rich this game when I was here)

2. Why does no one understand my posts? (This is referring again to everyone having no idea why I suspected Tommy/Ivan. Am I just not good at articulating myself?)

3. Okay. This was infuriating. Why did the majority of people here have a town read on me, AND agree with some of my cases and suspect the player I was attacking, yet refuse to vote along with me?

---Please someone, dear god help me out and answer these so I don't make any screw ups with any of you in future games.

4. Why did people suspect of being scum because I did something pro-town? (Referring to hammering Llama)

Like seriously guys, there is nothing wrong with having a good list of obvious town players. The cost/benefit ratio for hammering Llama in that situation is not worth it. Even if I did that as scum (Which I'd never do, I'd let you fuckers suffer with a no lynch and then push that sub lynch easily), no one would regard me as

confirmed

town because of it, and if I was still around during lylo, then it'd be discarded as nothing.

But, if I was town and you guys let that slide and let me have fun with being obvious town (as town), then I'd probably get night killed as scum would freak out about having townies agree on their correct town reads. Meaning I'd die before lylo because we're all awesome enough to win this game via PoE if you let us.

5. Why the fuck did you guys lynch Ice? He was one of the most obvious town players this game. This is saying something considering he always looks fuckin scummy. (I'm assuming the Ivan hydra had Ice nailed as town and just wanted a town mislynch then a scum lynch.)

6. Sotty, what questions did you want to ask me if I were here? I'm curious.

[Klazam]

The purpose of SB being Godfather is to mislead the scum a little. No bulletproofdness. Worthless after the whole mason team got outted D1, though.

MAfia QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/UuAFnWA2FAQ

[Llamarble]

MT I'm not sure of your complaints about being followed.
Town lynched me D2 and then your scumread Tommy D3.

[Magic Trainer]

Tommy should have been lynched Day 2 when litterally everyone had a null-scum gut read on him (+ not voting day 1)

But I'm probably whining since Day 2 actually worked out alright. I'm slightly more worried about people not understanding me however.

[Sotty7]

Ah the questions are pointless now really. But basically, I hated how you made these big cases Tommy/blinker and then just dropped them as soon as the new sparkly came along. I can get that you were frustrated that no one was listening, but to me it was like you didn't really want to lynch these guys and that your cases were bluster. I never felt you truly push your Tommy case at all. And the case was good. I had convinced myself it was too good, but that's not the point. I think you need to beat on that drum a lot more. Don't just abandon your reads for the town. Yes there are times when you should compromise, but there are a lot more times where you should get a megaphone, stand on your soap box and ask over and over why we aren't lynching so and so.

The best way to get people to talk about your cases if you are feeling ignored is to single people out. "Hey Beck, what do you think of what I posted about Tommy in post yadda yadda?" That why you get direct feedback on the case you built AND you can work on convincing him and drawing others into your dialog. Repeat as necessarily.