Kids in the Hall Mafia - Game Over, Daves are Supreme

[Umbrage]

/confirmmy

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What am I?

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I was asking DGB, not you. *sneer*

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[quote="DrippingGoofball"]

QUESTIONNAIRE

Are you a strapping male?

I'm a male, I'm not strapping anything right now though.

Are you tanned?

Nope.

Do you have a hard six-pack?

Not even close.

Do you work out?

Yeah.

Are you strikingly handsome?

By geek standards, yes. By normal standards, no.

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*eats popcorn*

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VOTE: Farside for being so biased toward women breasts, men have nipples too they aren't anything to be scared of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YS71CtZ_Bs

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So, men have the bro code, women have the bra code, robots have the bar code?

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VOTE: Porochaz for being the most active V/LA person I've seen.

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As far as I know, I am not a double voter.

UNVOTE: Porochaz
VOTE: Umbrage

Let's see how that works.

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VOTE: VP Baltar

I don't like how he quickly jumped unto the Gurgi wagon. The bandwagoning itself isn't what's scummy, it's more of how he's "ooh, look at me, I'm scumhunting!".

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not reading the thread much are you.

No not really, it's pretty boring.

So let's conclude that there is at least one scum in group A and at least one scum in group B. I'd say that it's more likely we find scum in group B just for the fact that scum want to look active in the breaking point. Bonus points if your attempt it's as weak as claiming meta in RVS and you have a wagon already.

I find only scum do the group A/group B trick. It gives the illusion of scumhunting when you're really saying anyone could be scum.

VOTE: scooby

PEDIT: I've never seen scum that organized, dividing up serious and joking approaches. Frankly, I think all RVS is meaningless, and I find the assumption that scum will purposefully have different reactions to things unfounded. If anything, scum try and act like the rest of the town, which could be serious or joking.

[Umbrage]

Die roles? We can be a die? Are you softclaiming dice, UT?

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Dammit, I have got to stop this habit of opening the reply window, typing up a reply, and then completely forgetting about it.

I

find only scum do the group A/group B trick.

It gives the illusion of scumhunting when you're really saying anyone could be scum.

Prove this. Now.

How about this: I've always done it as scum, and never as town. I've never seen it successfully used to catch scum. I've never seen it provide solid reasoning to vote someone, it's always used as an excuse to vote the person they want to vote.

And this isn't even touching the fact that the scum had to purposefully had different attitudes in RVS for your theory to hold water, and that doesn't seem likely at all. I challenge you to find a game where this happened. Hell, I challenge you to find a game where somebody went "HEY, THOSE TWO GUYS WERE JOKING AND SERIOUS IN RVS, THEY MUST BE TEH SCUMZ!!!".

It's a bullshit tell used in a scummy way.

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Actually, I don't find LG's actions that scummy. All anyone's been able to prove is that he wasn't paying attention to the game. Farside's been far scummier. She's ignored the scooby case to keep attacking Lord Gurgi, OMGUS anyone?

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I'm not seeing a scum motive for Gurgi to launch an attack on farside so early and then try and back out of it.

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This scooby wagon's speed and composure is bad and you should feel bad. What he was trying to SAY is okish even if its got some serious pants on head going on. Watching the leapers is a level of paranoia that makes me even MORE paranoid that no one seems to be paranoid about it.

Meh, I just thought it was standard RVS-ending WAGON HO! euphoria.

I think he probably was high. I don't think he made that up. But I also think he was serious about calling farside scum due to meta (off of almost zero info this game), then he voted her for the scummy meta reason (while high), then when people called that BS, he started to go "GUYZ YOU CAN'T BLAME ME I WAS HIGH LULZ."

Still doesn't explain how his actions make sense as scum.

unvote, vote scooby

OK, SpyreX was right.

I'm not sold on the wagon and a lot looks like theory in my view.

UNVOTE: scooby for now. I've got a feeling at least one of DGB, EK, and farside are scum.

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Ugh. Game's getting hard to read.

So... Amrun is town. I can read her like a book. Don't ask how, I just... get her.

After a bit of ISO, I can say with conviction that DGB is scum. A risky claim, but hear me out.

People. I was high and drunk when I voted for Farside. My initial post was my first post. At this point I'm asking about theory. I don't see why early meta reads should be any less legitimate than other early reads. Isn't meta most useful when you have the least information from other sources?

OK, so Lord Gurgi is scum.

Scooby's scumtells are pretty bad, and his division into groups not considering that I'm actually serious, but that doesn't make him Lord Gurgi's buddy.

scooby 142: "scum want to look active in the breaking point" -

I think this is projection

on scooby's part: he's scum and wants to look active, and he's projecting that logic onto everyone else.
scooby 148: "Prove this. Now." This is very much a gut hunch, but that abrupt response sounds to me like it could come from scum happy to have found something they can legitimately challenge someone about.

This sort of argument is like a siren's song to me.

VOTE: Scooby

Just to recap:

a) Gurgi is scum.
b) Scooby may or may not be Gurgi's buddy.
c) Sheep onto Scooby's wagon.

@scooby: why is SpyreX scum (as you stated in 142)? And, if you felt so strongly enough to state it as baldly as that, why didn't you vote him instead of pops?

FOS buddy, vote townie?

So, now SpyreX is scooby's buddy?

unvote, Vote: EK

I think I was correct in my RVS vote actually. He did claim to be high when he made the vote. EK not reading back over that interaction at this point to double check herself makes me suspicious.

Hello scum. Your buddy, Lord Gurgi, forgot that "RL excuses" are planet-sized scum tells. You should bus him.

AND VP Baltar is Lord Gurgi's buddy?

I'm not seeing a scum motive for Gurgi to launch an attack on farside so early and then try and back out of it.

Maybe his distancing attempt backfired when a wagon was created out of it.

Distancing implies scumbuddies.

OK, so to be clear, Gurgi is scum with farside and VP Baltar, while scooby is scum with SpyreX. Got it?

That was longer that it should be but could have been more.

Okay pops wagon is go now right?

scooby, can you tell me your mafia experience, please?

I have played mafia before.

CLAIM STALL

HAMMER PLEASE

VOTE: Lord Gurgi

These two posts were right after each other in the ISO. Yeah.

unvote

Now DGB forced a claim even though no one declared intent to hammer <_< yell at her, not me.

Since when do you need an intent to hammer when at L-1 for claiming? YOU ARE WITHIN IDIOT-QUICKHAMMERING RANGE.

In other words, pops is scum.

But is he on Gurgi's team or scooby's team?

Scooby might still be scum. His lack of contribution post wagon-dissolution is unsettling.

MIGHT be scum? You were just screaming for his lynch! Now you feel he's 'unsettling'?

KIDS IN THE HALL

DrippingGoofball
elvis_knits

CANDIDATES FOR STEADY BOYFRIEND

Mysterio
Kison

WORMS AND BUGS AND GRIT

imaginality
SpyreX > scum if farside isn't.
Porochaz
Umbrage
Internet Stranger
MrBuddyLee
Untrod Tripod
Medicated Lain
Lurconis
Mist Beauty
Amrun

ALTERNATE WINCON

farside22

IFFY

scooby
VP Baltar > needs to win heart back.

OMELET-EATING SCUM

popsofctown
Lord Gurgi
vollkan

What happened to SpyreX? And how did vollkan get into the picture?

unvote

I don't watch L- counts very closely. Sorry.

Now DGB forced a claim even though no one declared intent to hammer <_< yell at her, not me.

lynch this scumbag now. gets a vanilla claim and suddenly the lynch is no good anymore? YOU MAY AS WELL CLAIM SCUM NOW.

Scumpoints time.

VPB+5

Vote: VPB

Your argument here entirely ignores what pops said entirely and strawmans him to be saying "because scooby claimed vanilla, we shouldn't lynch him". That's very different from what it appears pops was doing, namely backing away from a rushed claim.

But since it was not a rushed claim, and since pops is scum, your VPB vote puts you in the pops-buddy category.

This is the only post she made on vollkan. So why does he rate in higher scumminess than scooby, who YOU TRIED TO LYNCH?

Now, I've never played with DGB before, is this standard for her? Because it looks scummy as hell to me. She's willing to get a lynch on anybody, and cries 'buddying' at every opportunity. And as funny as the 'seeking boyfriend' thing was, she's been dragging it out for a while now, and I'm wondering if she's using it as a distraction from her play.

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

PEDIT: IRONNNNNNNNNNNNY!!!!!!!! (cookie if you know that sketch)

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pops is town. Quit picking on the easy targets.

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I haven't seen pops do anything scummy. He's newb town, I can read newb town. It's really pathetic watching you all go "omg pops is sooo scummy" "i no rite? "i think pops is scum 2" "omg he defended pops their both scum" "lynch plz" and on and on. I'm beginning to consider hammering and getting this shit over with, but I really think he's town. DGB and farside are much much more scummy. Did you see where farside sheeped onto the pops wagon? Neither did I, she's good. But she's still scum, peoples.

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I just speak the truth, dudes. But fuck it.

VOTE: popsofctown

DO I GETS TOWN CRED NAO?

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UNVOTE: popsofctown

OOH YES HE WAS DEFINITELY SCUM LAST PAGE BUT NOW IF UMBRAGE WANTS HIM DEAD HE'S GOT TO BE TOWN

You guys make me laugh.

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The only people who have even posted since your ridiculous vote are myself and Porochaz. Neither of us has ever stated anything close to certainty that popsofctown is scum.

He looks just as bad as he did before. However, you now look like a slimy, vile scumbag for that vote.

OOH, I AGREED WITH YOU, WHAT A SCUMBAG!!!!!

Umbrage is just being a pain in the arse (meant with love). No reason to derail pops wagon to vote umbrage. That is stupid, guyz.

Also, UMBRAGE -- as farside pointed out, pops is not a newb.

If you act like a newb, you are a newb.

I still want reasons.

I can tell VI town from VI scum. It's like my superpower, I can't explain it. As for my case on DGB, read my wall.

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OK then.

VOTE: popsofctown

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It's clear nobody's going to listen to any argument besides 'pops is scum', so let's just hammer.

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Yeah, scooby's still scum. We lynch him after pops flips town, 'K?

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By the way, Im not unvoting Umbrage until he stops taking a strop and starts playing properly.

Tried that. But these morons won't listen until pops is dead. Hammer him so we can play the actual game.

OH GOOD FARSIDE THANK GOD.

[Umbrage]

I'll claim at L-1

Obvious VI town is obvious.

Just saying.

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Gah, Ill wait it out, I so wanted to hammer Hey Umbrage, whilst we have time to waste, fancy telling us the motivation behind your actions for today?

First, finding scum. Then, getting this day over with so I could get people to vote the scum I found.

[Umbrage]

Lazy option then, just going for the person you think is town because you can't be assed. Anyway, nothing much has changed here, I'll be voting you tomorrow for your actions today.

vote pops

I'm not exactly sure what you expect me to do. Seems whenever I push a case these trolls insult me.

[Umbrage]

OK, can we do some actual scumhunting today? Good.

VOTE: scooby for same stuff as yesterday.

[Umbrage]

Your pops non-scum case was interesting.
Your DGB case was flawed primarily because its DGB
Your scooby case is nothing. If the post above is an indication of your scumhunting, why bother?

scooby, there was a wagon against him... wasn't there?

Fail. Now go away, grown-ups are talking.

Let me see... DGB uses OMGUS, has an extremely convenient explanation for Kison's death, and scooby is somehow now a town read despite the fact that she called for his lynch yesterday. Uh-huh. She's scum. Play your kiddie meta games all you want, I'm the one that gets to gloat when the game's over.

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This just in:

SpyreX has been accepted into the Cool Club.

This message has been brought to you by Scum-Hunters Inc.

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Hm. Porochaz is VI, DGB is OMGUS, nope. Nothing new. I'll check in again tonight.

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@Umbrage

Yes Im a VI because I know that DGB is scum despite her playing to her town meta which I wouldn't know because Ive never played with her before, I also threw a strop and lynched someone I "thought" was town because it meant that people would start listening to me the next day and HEY! IT WAS A TOTALLY LEGITIMATE SOUND MOVE, ALRIGHT?! EVEN THOUGH I DIDNT SAY WHY HE WAS TOWN!!! and I'm voting scooby on the littlest tiny thing and trying to make it a big huge deal because you know, it makes me feel special.

Oh wait... thats not me at all is it. No, that's you and I've called you out on it, so naturally, Im a VI. DGB agrees, so naturally she is OMGUS yet your not voting her.

Don't think your inane posturing will pass for something useful. It won't. And until you do something thats in the towns interests I'm going to keep reminding you of that.

lol

Not feeling the Umbrage wagon.

Three townies on the Umbrage wagon. That should tell you something.

lol

No, Umbrage being scum means that he's scum.

lol

[Umbrage]

Players that went after Scooby for making a good attempt to alienate scum: Umbrage, Vollkan
Opportunists: UT, Gurgi, Umbrage (again),

Kison

, Imaginality,

DBG

(again),

pops

(again), lurconis
Conversation Misdirectors:

pops

, Amrun,

DBG

Spinning:

Farside

Farside

coming off as threading water again.

Kison

, lots of hem and hawing, but at least questioning pops.
VP, ugly ugly defense of

DBG

, even if its a joke.
Spyrex, blatant

DBG

defense

Farside

, being Captain Obvious, really helpful.

Farside again

,

pinging that scumdar.

Great, game derailed, thanks

Farside

.

Great, there goes

farside

.

DBG

, oh look opportunistic Umbrage vote to start the day. Great!

Im caught up! yaay! This first one is going to be so easy.

I really wanted to go after

Farside

,

[DGB] =

Really crappy cases on

Scooby and

pops

,

Vollkan is looking awful for

pops

.

Still wants Scooby over bullshit.

>>>I wasnt too sure on

pops

, but meh, the lynch was justified anyways.<<<

...constant bullshit lists (I hate bullshit lists) and now employs the services of Mr Angry White Knight, Poro (I HATE white knights) in an attempt to railroad Umbrage in a late coming OMGUS strategy and no reasoning whatsover.

Vote:

DBG

General question:

When IS's reads suck eggs and he screams for the overdeath of dead townies, while deriding everyone else, while boasting of past success in some other game, is he scum, or is he town? How about when he himself declares the pops lynch justified, while railing against other players that thought the same?

Unvote, Vote: DGB

SpyreX, you're either scum or an idiot. Pick.

IS is berating you for "blatant DGB defense."

And now you suck up to him and vote me?

You're scum, my friend.

SpyreX has been accepted into the Cool Club.

Aw krap, so you're not SpyreX's buddy.

1 out of 2 ain't bad.

One of Umbrage and SpyreX is scum. Not both.

HOLY SHIT.

I HAVE NEVER SEEN A MORE FRANTIC REACTION.

Why should I get into a long debate about your case on DGB when I know she is town? There's no point.

This has nothing to do with girl power. I'm not saying she's town because of girl power. I'm saying she's town because she is.

Can you please tell me why you spent so much time concentrating your catch up post on suspecting dead townies? Did you not realize farside is dead town? Like I really don't get why you would spend so much time on attacking her unless you were just trying to look busy.

lol

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OK, challenge time. I bet you can't do this one.

NAME ONE NON-META REASON WHY DGB IS NOT SCUM.

Anybody can rise to the challenge. C'mon people. Make me eat my words. Wipe that smug smile off my face. You know you want to!

[Umbrage]

Because when challenged DGB has reasons. You do not.

Contribute something useful to this game, and maybe I'll listen to you.

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Actually don't I just dont care anymore. I'll continue to contribute and provide reasoning and play the game.. You go on and continue being a stubborn ass and throw strops and just continue being a petulant child.

...

Can't... resist...

ARRRRRRGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol

I didn't want to fuck up this game by quoting my own wall, but I'm running out of options here.

Ugh. Game's getting hard to read.

So... Amrun is town. I can read her like a book. Don't ask how, I just... get her.

After a bit of ISO, I can say with conviction that DGB is scum. A risky claim, but hear me out.

People. I was high and drunk when I voted for Farside. My initial post was my first post. At this point I'm asking about theory. I don't see why early meta reads should be any less legitimate than other early reads. Isn't meta most useful when you have the least information from other sources?

OK, so Lord Gurgi is scum.

Scooby's scumtells are pretty bad, and his division into groups not considering that I'm actually serious, but that doesn't make him Lord Gurgi's buddy.

scooby 142: "scum want to look active in the breaking point" -

I think this is projection

on scooby's part: he's scum and wants to look active, and he's projecting that logic onto everyone else.
scooby 148: "Prove this. Now." This is very much a gut hunch, but that abrupt response sounds to me like it could come from scum happy to have found something they can legitimately challenge someone about.

This sort of argument is like a siren's song to me.

VOTE: Scooby

Just to recap:

a) Gurgi is scum.
b) Scooby may or may not be Gurgi's buddy.
c) Sheep onto Scooby's wagon.

@scooby: why is SpyreX scum (as you stated in 142)? And, if you felt so strongly enough to state it as baldly as that, why didn't you vote him instead of pops?

FOS buddy, vote townie?

So, now SpyreX is scooby's buddy?

unvote, Vote: EK

I think I was correct in my RVS vote actually. He did claim to be high when he made the vote. EK not reading back over that interaction at this point to double check herself makes me suspicious.

Hello scum. Your buddy, Lord Gurgi, forgot that "RL excuses" are planet-sized scum tells. You should bus him.

AND VP Baltar is Lord Gurgi's buddy?

I'm not seeing a scum motive for Gurgi to launch an attack on farside so early and then try and back out of it.

Maybe his distancing attempt backfired when a wagon was created out of it.

Distancing implies scumbuddies.

OK, so to be clear, Gurgi is scum with farside and VP Baltar, while scooby is scum with SpyreX. Got it?

That was longer that it should be but could have been more.

Okay pops wagon is go now right?

scooby, can you tell me your mafia experience, please?

I have played mafia before.

CLAIM STALL

HAMMER PLEASE

VOTE: Lord Gurgi

These two posts were right after each other in the ISO. Yeah.

unvote

Now DGB forced a claim even though no one declared intent to hammer <_< yell at her, not me.

Since when do you need an intent to hammer when at L-1 for claiming? YOU ARE WITHIN IDIOT-QUICKHAMMERING RANGE.

In other words, pops is scum.

But is he on Gurgi's team or scooby's team?

Scooby might still be scum. His lack of contribution post wagon-dissolution is unsettling.

MIGHT be scum? You were just screaming for his lynch! Now you feel he's 'unsettling'?

KIDS IN THE HALL

DrippingGoofball
elvis_knits

CANDIDATES FOR STEADY BOYFRIEND

Mysterio
Kison

WORMS AND BUGS AND GRIT

imaginality
SpyreX > scum if farside isn't.
Porochaz
Umbrage
Internet Stranger
MrBuddyLee
Untrod Tripod
Medicated Lain
Lurconis
Mist Beauty
Amrun

ALTERNATE WINCON

farside22

IFFY

scooby
VP Baltar > needs to win heart back.

OMELET-EATING SCUM

popsofctown
Lord Gurgi
vollkan

What happened to SpyreX? And how did vollkan get into the picture?

unvote

I don't watch L- counts very closely. Sorry.

Now DGB forced a claim even though no one declared intent to hammer <_< yell at her, not me.

lynch this scumbag now. gets a vanilla claim and suddenly the lynch is no good anymore? YOU MAY AS WELL CLAIM SCUM NOW.

Scumpoints time.

VPB+5

Vote: VPB

Your argument here entirely ignores what pops said entirely and strawmans him to be saying "because scooby claimed vanilla, we shouldn't lynch him". That's very different from what it appears pops was doing, namely backing away from a rushed claim.

But since it was not a rushed claim, and since pops is scum, your VPB vote puts you in the pops-buddy category.

This is the only post she made on vollkan. So why does he rate in higher scumminess than scooby, who YOU TRIED TO LYNCH?

Now, I've never played with DGB before, is this standard for her? Because it looks scummy as hell to me. She's willing to get a lynch on anybody, and cries 'buddying' at every opportunity. And as funny as the 'seeking boyfriend' thing was, she's been dragging it out for a while now, and I'm wondering if she's using it as a distraction from her play.

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

PEDIT: IRONNNNNNNNNNNNY!!!!!!!! (cookie if you know that sketch)

READ THAT.

THEN TELL ME WHY DGB IS TOWN.

PEDIT: Chicken Lady doesn't sound like a town role to me. She's a crazy stalker. I mean, you're trying to confirm her based on flavour (no pun intended) in a bastard game. In the face of the literal wall of evidence against her, I'm not convinced.

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Umbrage, give it up. Your case isn't even close to convincing. It's all about "these things could be twisted and construed as scumtells" when no one else sees them as scumtells.

In your wall, you ask, "Is this normal for her?" Everyone says yes, and then you whine about meta excuses. YOU ASKED.

DGB is not at all willing to get a lynch on anybody - she declared scooby town when it was still up in the air, for example. She has been listing all game, and therefore those people on her town list are people she is not willing to lynch.

You get an explanation for the "seeking a boyfriend" thing (breadcrumb) and you dismiss it.

Bad case is bad.

p-edit: It's IS' fault.

One more time.

GIVE ONE NON-META REASON WHY DGB IS TOWN, OR SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH.

[Umbrage]

Yes, actually I do have an answer.

GIVE ONE NON-META REASON WHY DGB IS TOWN, OR SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH.

GIVE ONE NON-META REASON WHY DGB IS TOWN, OR SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH.

GIVE ONE NON-META REASON WHY DGB IS TOWN, OR SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH.

GIVE ONE NON-META REASON WHY DGB IS TOWN, OR SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH.

GIVE ONE NON-META REASON WHY DGB IS TOWN, OR SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH.

GIVE ONE NON-META REASON WHY DGB IS TOWN, OR SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH.

GIVE ONE NON-META REASON WHY DGB IS TOWN, OR SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH.

GIVE ONE NON-META REASON WHY DGB IS TOWN, OR SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH.

[Umbrage]

I've haven't voted anyone for rolefishing since 1974, but this case takes the cake. There is no town reason to do it to this extent. Umbrage will have to wait his turn for the guillotine.

VOTE: Internet Stranger

OMGUS. This is getting old now.

[Umbrage]

Umbrage is scum, he accused me on OMGUS'ing when he wasn't voting me, and hadn't posted today yet.

I am also scum because I wear plaid with stripes, enjoy ragtime music, and eat zucchini bread.

OH WAIT NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE SCUMTELLS

[Umbrage]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS FUCKING SHIT I DON'T EVEN

YOU'RE SERIOUSLY VOTING IS

WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM

WHY IS A NAME CLAIM A BAD THING

ESPECIALLY IF IT COULD PROVE DGB IS TOWN??????

WHAT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM???????

FOR FUCK'S SAKE

ELVIS YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE

LET'S JUST FORGET FOR A MINUTE THAT I ALREADY PROVED SHE'S TOWN.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

YOU DIDN'T PROVE SHE'S TOWN

IS PROVED SHE'S CHICKEN LADY

YOU WOULD'VE KEPT THAT TO YOURSELF

YOU LET DGB TAKE A TON OF SHIT ALL DAY

YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH FAUCKING WAYS

EITHER DGB IS UNCONFIRMED IN WHICH CASE YOU SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH UNTIL YOU THINK OF A WAY TO RESPOND TO MY MILE LONG CASE THAT'S GROWING LONGER THE MORE SHE POSTS

OR DGB IS CONFIRMED TOWN AND YOU SAT YOUR ASS ON THAT INFO UNTIL IS DRAGGED IT OUT OF YOU

WHICH IST IT???????/

VOTE: ELVISKN ITS

EITHER YOU WITHHELD INFORMATION THAT COULD'VE SHOT MY CASE AND IS' CASE TO HELL AND SAVED VALUABLE SCUMHUNTING TIME

ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

YOU ARE FULL OF FUCKING SHIT..

WHICH IS IT??

[Umbrage]

unvote, vote:umbrage

I'm pretty okay with this.

OK, glad to see you're being useful and contributing to the discussion and all that shit.

I'm jsut kidding.

Fuck you.

[Umbrage]

I THINK UMBRAGE IS SCUM. DO YOU THINK UMBRAGE IS SCUM?

OH YES I MOST CERTAINLY DO.

SHOULD WE LYNCH HIM?

NO, THAT MIGHT LOOK BAD WHEN HE FLIPS TOWN. LET'S JUST CIRCLEJERK SOME MORE.

GOOD IDEA. IF WE SAY IT ENOUGH THE OTHER DUMBFUCKS MIGHT BELIEVE IT.

[Umbrage]

EK.

WHICH IS IT?

ARE YOU ANTI-TOWN OR JUST AN IDIOT?

[Umbrage]

OK, LET ME SIMPLIFY:

DO YOU BELIEVE THE OMELET CONFIRMS DGB AS TOWN?

[Umbrage]

Hey Umbrage, explain to me why you've been railing against DGB for 90 percent of thee day but your vote hasn't moved from scooby "for stuff from yesterday"?

This is the only question I can see.

Honestly, I thought my vote was on DGB. I generally don't pay attention to that kind of thing unless we're near a lynch.

[Umbrage]

I'm 99% sure this is Umbrage scum trying to play the DERPFATE card.

Someone kill this scumbag.

THIS IS MY TOWN PLAY ASSHOLE. READ ANY OF MY GAMES.

[Umbrage]

Shit.

OK, I'm taking a break from this game to cool off. I realize I crossed the line.

[Umbrage]

OK, I'm going to see what being calm gets me.

I'm assuming here that DGB's role is some sort of friendly neighbour role. Even if that's not the case, it's what EK claims to believe.

EK's actions don't add up. If, upon receiving the omelette, she thought it meant DGB was confirmed town, the first logical thing she would do is tell us about it.

But that's not what she did. She kept insisting DGB was town, but she never proved it when she could've all along. She let IS an myself rant for a while before she revealed the omelette. Why?

Similarly, DGB's first thought today should be about EK. She gave EK the omelette for a reason. Why?

EK had the knowledge that DGB was town the whole day. I'm not convinced that DGB being the Chicken Lady means she's town, but EK said she did. As far as she knew, she could confirm DGB, and yet she didn't.

Look. Either the omelette is harmless or it isn't. If it is, it's definitely some sort of friendly neighbour role, or whatever it's called. If so, DGB would use it to become confirmed town. That's it's only possible use.

So why, when targeted with a role she believed was used so that DGB can be confirmed town, did EK not immediately confirm DGB?

Furthermore, why didn't DGB try and confirm herself? At any time, she could've asked EK to say what happened.

The only explanation is that the omelette is NOT used in this way.

The omelette CAN'T be something good, or DGB would've said what it was. There's no point in giving a fellow townie a gift if they have no idea what to do with it.

So either the omelette's something bad, and it didn't work on EK, or there is no omelette.

If the former, DGB is either scum or a vig/vig-like role. If the latter, EK and DGB are scum together.

Let's assume the omelette is something bad. The fact that it apparently didn't work on EK means something. If an ability has different effects on different people, it's pretty much guaranteed to be based on alignment, like a CPR Doc.

So if DGB is town, she got an alignment result on EK. Which begs the question: WHY DIDN'T SHE SAY ANYTHING?

DGB: explain what the omelettes do now.

I'm not rolefishing. I'm just trying to see if there's any possible way EK and DGB can be town. Forget everything else. Think about it: THEIR ACTIONS MAKE NO SENSE. No matter what the omelette is or does, it has to do SOMETHING, and either EK or DGB had to have gotten a result from it. WHY DIDN'T THEY SAY ANYTHING?

[Umbrage]

You realise we revealed too much in the first place. There is a clear reason why no more as been revealed and it would be good to keep it that way. I agree DGB isn't confirmed however talking about it further is probably more likely than not, going to damage the town. All talk of her role needs to stop now. Pursuing it further places you top of my scum-tree.

Why don't you want to talk about it? Why would EK claim it if she didn't want to talk about it? If she didn't think it could help prove DGB's innocence?

The weirdest part of yesterday to me, on reread, is Umbrage going from "OMG YOU GUYS POPS IS SO OBVTOWN" to "OMG GUYS LET'S LYNCH POPS". I'm not really seeing a pro-town motivation to lynch someone you think is town. Correct me if I'm wrong here. If town-Umbrage thought pops was town, he really shouldn't have participated in the lynch. Scumpointz. Also the yelling. Ugh. Making stupid noise is a lot worse than my lurking. And the neighborfishing about DGB and EK is just bad news bears. Unless it was scumbussing. I guess Umbrage trying to scumbus DGB makes a certain amount of sense?

Also make up your mind, do you think the omlette neighborizes or masons? Because neighbors rarely have confirmed alignment. And also EK never claimed that it made DGB confirmed town, she just said that the omlette didn't kill her when she ate it so I'm not really sure where you're coming from on that. I SINCERELY doubt that their interaction was some kind of scum gambit. Why would scum go out of their way to establish a connection? Why wouldn't DGB use her amazing egg power on a townie to lure them into thinking she's town. There is no good reason on day 2 of a large theme for two scum to say "HEY GUYS, WE HAVE INTERACTED AND ARE PRETTY SURE ABOUT STUFF ABOUT EACH OTHER". NO REASON. If EK turns up dead tomorrow night and is town, yes maybe we can go after DGB because THAT would make sense.

I explained why pops had to die: because you morons wouldn't do anything until he was dead. Just like how you're not going to wake up until I'm lynched. Too bad that's not going to happen.

"Bad news bears". I've got to remember that next time I'm scum and want to dismiss someone's reasoning without actually arguing with them, thanks!

Here's the thing about the omlette: I don't know. I don't know if it neighbourizes. I don't know if it masonizes. All I do know is that whatever it does, EK's reactions MAKE NO GODDAMN SENSE.

And the bit about EK never saying it made DGB confirmed town is a BIG FAT LIE.

OK, LET ME SIMPLIFY:

DO YOU BELIEVE THE OMELET CONFIRMS DGB AS TOWN?

Yes

OH LOOKIE HERE

OK, LET ME SIMPLIFY:

DO YOU BELIEVE THE OMELET CONFIRMS DGB AS TOWN?

Yes

SEEN ENOUGH BITCH?

OK, LET ME SIMPLIFY:

DO YOU BELIEVE THE OMELET CONFIRMS DGB AS TOWN?

Yes

If it neighbourizes, why did EK say she believed it made DGB confirmed town?

If it masonizes, why wouldn't she use it to prove DGB's town right away?

I'm trying to think of any possible reason EK would believe she could confirm DGB as town, AND NOT TELL US.

And THAT is what you are all overlooking. THAT is the one thing you can't dismiss.

SHE HAD A CONFIRMED TOWNIE UNDER ATTACK BY ONE OF THE MOST RENOWNED SCUMHUNTERS ON THIS SITE, AND SHE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.

And that, my friends, is what we call PROOF.

[Umbrage]

@Umbrage if you know or believe someone is a confirmed townie is there a reason to say so if that person isn't in danger of being lynched when doing so would reveal role information? I don't understand the argument that EK didn't confirm DGB as town sooner when DGB wasn't in danger of being lynched.

I'm

unvote

and putting it back on

Vote Lord Gurgi

.

I notice that he is someone several people find scummy but not a top scumspect.

THANK YOU. YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON TO TAKE THIS GAME AND MYSELF SERIOUSLY.

This man is town everyone. Write that down.

Now, to answer your point:

1), Did DGB want to be confirmed? This doesn't make sense because DGB didn't say anything to EK about the omelette. She would've been waiting for EK to speak up and confirm her, and yet she never said anything. "EK, is there something you want to tell us?" "EK, did you get anything last night?" No hints of any kind.

2), Why would EK reveal the omelette when she did? DGB was in no danger of being lynched.

Still doesn't make sense. The only thing that makes sense in my mind is this:

Last Night, EKscum and DGBscum hatch (tee hee) a plan to make DGB confirmed town, but they agree it would be suspicious if used right away, so EK only pops it out when pressed. EK panicked under IS' pressure, and that's not something a townie would do.

[Umbrage]

What are you even going on about now, Umbrage?

Who are you saying is one of the most renowned scum hunters on the site? YOU?

ROFL

I didn't particularly care that you were attacking her. You were one person, and your attack seemed like a lot of speculation. Scooby also didn't like DGB as I recall, but I don't think he voted her. Two people suspecting her, but it wasn't going anywhere. When IS came on and was like "this vote isn't changing" and he wouldn't listen to me and was posting walls, I began to think that it was going to waste a lot of our time given that now there were three people who really disliked dgb. So I gave the info that I have, that I think should make people reasonably sure she's town.

That's what happened. I don't understand why that seems strange to you.

You're attacking me one the one had for not telling my info sooner, and on the other hand for telling it too soon. Which is it, Umbrage? Did I tell it too soon or not soon enough?

No, IS.

If you didn't care that she was being attacked, try and why confirm her?

What seems strange is that you say you believed DGB was confirmed town.

So either you knew there was confirmed town and you didn't tell us, or you were lying about the omelette.

Either way, you're scum.

We could just lynch scumbrage and then we wouldn't have to listen to this.

I wish.

Umbrage, I know your frustrated but could you tone it down a little, some of the stuff in 644 was unnecessary.

No, you had your shot. Now it's time for me to act like a gigantic asshole.

[Umbrage]

So then why would she pick that time to out DGB? Actually, no, I want to hear it from EK: WHY DID YOU REVEAL THE OMELETTE WHEN YOU DID?

VPB, don't be stupid, this is my town play. I'm not an idiot, I don't pull shit like this as scum, only as town.

[Umbrage]

AGAIN, DO YOU EXPECT EVERYBODY TO CLAIM ALL THEIR INFO RIGHT AWAY, OR DON'T YOU THINK IT WOULD BE MORE NORMAL TO WAIT UNTIL SOMETHING BECOMES AN ISSUE TO CLAIM INFO?

WELL RIDDLE ME THIS.

IF THE OMELETTE'S SOLE PURPOSE IS TO CONFIRM DGB...

THEN DGB CLEARLY WANTED TO BE CONFIRMED.

SO WHY DIDN'T YOU CONFIRM HER?

Entertaining though watching Umbrage explode is I've kind of had enough of his behaviour. A little respect would be good here. Give the game a break and come back when you've calmed down please, then this game will be more fun for you, me and others within this game.

Kiss my ass.

By the way guys, I can't be lynched. You're wasting your time.

[Umbrage]

VOTE: Umbrage

Fine with testing this.

Also, Umbrage, I believe the only one who ever suggested the purpose of the egg was to confirm DGB was you.

If that's not true, then EK has no reason to believe it confirms DGB.

I don't care whether or not the omelette confirms her, but EK thinks it does. So her actions are still illogical.

[Umbrage]

VOTE: Umbrage

OH WOW LOOK AT THAT.

VOTE: elvis_knits

My vote's staying there from now on. Proven scum is proven scum.

[Umbrage]

If Umbrage is indeed not lynchable, he's not town.

lolwat?

The whole fucking point of mafia is that you lynch scum.

If someone can't be lynched, that means they're town.

Do I need to spell it out for you?

I am confirmed town, because town cannot kill me without vig mumbo-jumbo.

And there is no way that this game has 2 confirmable townies.

Which means you're not confirmed.

Which means EK is lying.

Which means that THAT OMELETTE FUCKING DOES SOMETHING.

Tell you what, you claim your role, fully, explaining everything about the omelette and stuff, and I'll claim mine.

[Umbrage]

That's

not

how it works. You don't get to make deals.

You're right. I could just demand it. After all, what's the worst that could happen? You lynch me? Scum kill me? Uh-uh. I'm going to attract Docs and JKs like crazy. And even if I don't, scum won't chance the WIFOM. Face it, I'm going to be around for a long long time and there's nothing you can do about it.

I think the less I claim about my role the better. I've got nothing to gain.

Also: doublevoter =/= confirmed townie.

Think about it, guys. If I'm Survivor, I want to get rid of the mafia because they're the only ones that can kill me. If I'm SK, ditto. You can trust me, you have to trust me.

[Umbrage]

Unlynchable Townie?

[Umbrage]

I am town.

[Umbrage]

God, the players in this game are fucking idiots. I'm town. Move on.

[Umbrage]

Here SpyreX, for your perusal.

This is Umbrage's non-admitting admission.

I think the less I claim about my role the better. I've got nothing to gain.

Think about it, guys. If I'm Survivor, I want to get rid of the mafia because they're the only ones that can kill me. If I'm SK, ditto. You can trust me, you have to trust me.

^ still scum

[Umbrage]

ISOing IS, be back soon.

[Umbrage]

Forget it. I have fucking proven scum in EK, and the best she can do is argue that I should be lynched just to see if it's possible. NO.

You lot keep saying I should do something for the town, well, maybe if one of you would come up with an original thought and stop this bullshit, I'd be able to contribute something to the discussion. You think I like this fuckery? You think I enjoy watching town fuck up so hard? You think I'm doing this to be the centre of attention? Every one of my actions thus far have been to get the town focused on finding scum, and I keep getting drowned out by the same shitposters.

Once this game is over, I fucking own you all. Got it? Once I am proved right in the end, as I have been in... let me see... I believe 2 other games now? Oh no, 3, I forgot about Charlie the Unicorn... anyway, yeah, I fucking own you. I deserve a Scummy for Most Patient Saint. Of course that'll never happen since I don't play popularity contests.

Fuck it, I don't need to say anymore, I have fucking confirmed scum. So when your strategy of MOAR VOTES DERP fails to shut me up, play to your wincons and vote EK.

[Umbrage]

you forgot to vote yourself in that post. much obliged.

Bullshit.

stop pretending that you're some kind of Cassandra

you're acting like a raving dickhole, so no one wants to listen to you. If e_k turns out to be scum no one is going to say "oh man, we should have listened to Umbrage". You have so far failed to make any convincing or logical arguments about why she is "proven scum".

Again, if you want people on your side, you need to stop doing what you're doing.

Bullshit.

Forget it. I have fucking proven scum in EK, and the best she can do is argue that I should be lynched just to see if it's possible. NO.

Where did I say that the reason I want to lynch you is to see if it's possible?

That's not the reason.

It's because your cases are such shit and you're an asshole.

Bullshit.

Yeah if Im wrong in this game, which is possible, Ive been wrong before, then in no way do I feel you helped at all during the game. Your attitude is one of the worst I've seen in a game and you certainly have impeded town if you are.

Bullshit.

You aren't helping Mist, please vote and stick on Umbrage. Your vote on Gurgi will only, ONLY be of interest if we make sure Umbrage isn't lynchable first.

Bullshit.

How many more? And all I've seen are you guys just railing on Umbrage who isn't the world's most likeable guy. If we can decide on something concrete (# of votes before we do something useful) then fine, I'll put my vote back on him, but it seems to me like you want him policy-vigged even if he gets 14+votes and survives. I agree that he is a huge pain, and I don't see why EK is obvscum, but if you're both pro-town this is an incredible waste of time. I've heard of roles where people need less votes to be lynched, but rarely for people to be able to survive a lynch. Is this sort of role unheard of?

it literally would not take any work for you to just park your vote on Umbrage for a little while so we can sort this out. the LG thing isn't going to happen right now, so all you're really doing is wasting our time while soft-pushing a lynch and not really saying anything

ninjaedit

goddammit poro said it first

Bullshit.

Nothing useful or new in any of these posts.

[Umbrage]

OH SO WE WON?

FUCK YEAH

DAVE FOLEY 4EVER