Mini 1238 - One After the Other - Over!

[Empking]

Vote; Killjoy

- You stole my first post.

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[b]Vote: KIilljoy[/b]

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Unvote. Vote: Monk

- Two random votes, the first a second vote.

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Why did you feel the need to point that out?

Its scummy. This is because (

Friend

) it suggests that he thinks he might lose something from voting you. This is only possibly true for mafia.

[Empking]

Unvote. Vote: Monk

- Two random votes, the first a second vote.

I set a trap, I didn't think you'd be the one to set it off, disappointing empking

VOTE: Empking

I honestly laughed at this. Really, that's what you're going with?

Anyone up for Lynch Alll Trap-Setters. That has to be the worst excuse ever used in mafia and I haven't seen it for so long.

[Empking]

Ha, I was just about to post a with scare quotes in!

It was going to be like:

Maybe I should say Lynch All "Trap-Setters".

[Empking]

Two objectives, find opportunistic scum, end rvs. Empking decided I was scum from the littlest thing lets go

See, I can understand the second motive though I disagree with it. Its a shame for you that you didn't just go with that from the beginning.
The first point is just bull though

[Empking]

Monk isn't scum due to join date.

I presume you're not claiming that a 2011 joindate doesn't make you immune from getting a scum PM so...

[Empking]

Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with changing your vote during RVS, because it elicits reactions from people as it did in this case. monk has no reason to claim it was a trap, other than it really was a trap. Empking reacted and used it as a reason to vote for monk. I don't like that. Friend used it as a reason to vote for monk too. I don't like that either.

I don't think there is either. You're misunderstanding my position. I think it's scummy that instead of saying "there's nothing wrong with changing your vote in RVS, it's not a big deal, calm down" he said "LOL it was a trap Empking I've caught you as scum." It makes no sense unless he's nervous about his play, which I find scummy. Town have no reason to be nervous.

Quite well said.

Silk: If there's nothing wrong with having two random votes then how does it lead one out of RVS?

[Empking]

Silk: If there's nothing wrong with having two random votes then how does it lead one out of RVS?

Monk: Thanks to me, we're not.

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Silk: If there's nothing wrong with having two random votes then how does it lead one out of RVS?

Sorry, never been called that before and didn't notice it till now.

I don't understand what you are asking me here.

If random voting twice is not scummy and just a null action then how could monk expect it to lead us out of RVS?

Also, what finally got your attention to that question?

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@Empking: Because catching someone calling it scummy and using it as a reason to vote is a good way to catch opportunistic scum.

Why would scum call it scummy? So they could ride it to a lynch? Because I doubt that would happen. To spark discussion? No scum wouldn't do that, that's pro-town. What was the scum motive for calling monk out?

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@Empking: Because catching someone calling it scummy and using it as a reason to vote is a good way to catch opportunistic scum.

Why would scum call it scummy? So they could ride it to a lynch? Because I doubt that would happen. To spark discussion? No scum wouldn't do that, that's pro-town. What was the scum motive for calling monk out?

Why wouldn't scum use it to start a wagon? I've seen scum start wagons for petty reasons, wait for silly townies to sheep them, then jump off before the lynch. Hell I've even seem scum do it twice in a row and get away with it.

OK, so you think I thought it would get monk lynched. Oookay.

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Don't you think there is anything suspicious about someone changing the words and tone of a post to suit their claims?

I have to say that I agree with Friend.

[Empking]

I don't think this back and forth between you two will leak anymore information.

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Don't you think there is anything suspicious about someone changing the words and tone of a post to suit their claims?

I have to say that I agree with Friend.

I don't care if you agree with him. We call know you think monk slipped up. That is not what I asked you.

I asked you if you find someone changing the words and tone of a post to suit their claims as being suspicious?

I don't think he changed the tone.

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Yay! Hikari is town.

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Yay! Hikari is town.

are you saying when i make walls i'm town?

god damnit

I was thinking more of "THANKS FOR THE INSIGHT BROOOOOOO" but why the last bit of your post?

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Oh wait, Empking still hasn't answered my question.

Where?

[Empking]

Monk seems to have artfully dodged out of the way of the suspicion against him.

[Empking]

Zdenek - Killjoy, Mute (1)

?

(The vote count as a whole is ridiculous though. Wagon people!)

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I posted like literally less than two hours ago.

What have I been avoiding?

(Alse "LOLTRAP" is still the scummierst thing that's happened. Everything else is just nitpicking.)

[Empking]

What have I been avoiding?

[Empking]

There isn't much to say? IDK though, 'cause empking usually has a useless, unexplained list of reads by now.

Link please.

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If Zdenek cannoty give a specific reason why I would be avoiding this thread at this moment then look at this post from anoher game: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p3355849

[Empking]

If Zdenek cannoty give a specific reason why I would be avoiding this thread at this moment then look at this post from anoher game: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p3355849

Overall rate is irrelevant. It has do with the fact that you hadn't posted here;

So you don't care whether or not its a scumtell? It was just convenient to mention?

If my going a day without posting is not a scumtell why is it worth bringing up?

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I didn't vote you because of your average posting rate in this game. I never even mentioned average posting rate.

I think that it is a scum tell for a player not post while posting in other games especially if it occurs after someone votes them.

Why?
Why did this "especially if it occurs after someone votes them" come so belatedly?

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I didn't vote you because of your average posting rate in this game. I never even mentioned average posting rate.

I think that it is a scum tell for a player not post while posting in other games especially if it occurs after someone votes them.

Why?
Why did this "especially if it occurs after someone votes them" come so belatedly?

Because scum lurk to avoid pressure.
I don't think it came late.

It came in your fourth post on this subject + after your post responding to me asking you what I was avoiding.

[Empking]

Unvote, Vote: Zdenek

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Also Pseudonymous seems to be continually flying under the radar. Why isn't there more pressure on this dude?

We haven't got to him yet. Simple as that.

[Empking]

The Zdenek wagon dying convinces me he's scum.

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Who's with him? Because suddenly Ashblade looks like he's killing it (the wagon).

I blame monk. Not sure who the other scum is.

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Third: The WEagon makes you think Zde is town?

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Koopa, Pseudonymous, whispersilk, Whiskers (4)

FUUUU?

[Empking]

Pseudonymous is just giving a way of saying, "leme try to contribute, but not contribute a lot. i'm busy"

If this is saying that his inactivity doesn't look scum motivated (probably non-game factors) then I agree 100%.

[Empking]

So basically, you're going to use this game to refer to the penis as much as possible?
I mean, it's good to have a theme, and stuff, but it's a little weird that you're so open about it.

My bisexuality is tech. BUT some other player telling you to stop fluffing would be even techier. Just sayin'

Sigh. Whiskers is confirmed town now.

[Empking]

What is "tech"?
And how am I confirmed town?

The mod is not going to call out a scumbag for active lurking.

I am going to call out people for having a problem with my flavor.

[Empking]

I'm down with a hammar.

[Empking]

Come oooooooooooooooooooooon. We're not lynching anyone else.

[Empking]

Monk & Friend

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He votes Zednek at probably the most opportune time where it is likely to be forgotten and lost (in between two large walls)

I honestly laughed. You honestly think I used my psychic abilities to post before a wall?

Why is there a sigh in that post? You did not mention Whiskers at all until this post, and yet you are unhappy that Whiskers is town.

I'm unhappy that the mod accidently confirmed Whiskers.

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He votes Zednek at probably the most opportune time where it is likely to be forgotten and lost (in between two large walls)

I honestly laughed. You honestly think I used my psychic abilities to post before a wall?

Ninja'd

?

[Empking]

Vote: Kill

[Empking]

Nice reasoning.

Any reason?

Not really. Gut.

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Mute thoughts on Killjoy?
Killjoy thoughts on Mute?

Oh goodness.

Unvote, Vote: Monk

[Empking]

I know it's not your style to say anything useful ever, but give us something.

Didn't I just quote the most fluffy pretending to scumhunt post either.

"You two with the votes what's your dead on the other player with a vote" its not even like he's pretending to be suspicious of any of them.

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I know it's not your style to say anything useful ever, but give us something.

Didn't I just quote the most fluffy pretending to scumhunt post either.

"You two with the votes what's your read on the other player with a vote" its not even like he's pretending to be suspicious of any of them.

EBWOP

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They are my two scum picks at the moment and neither of them have said anything about the other, that is the reasoning I could care less that they have votes on them

not buying it

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I'm sorry. Are you two seriously calling the only player scumhunting and analysing out for being curtb anmd stuff. Really?

Wouldn't your time be spent calling monk out for being scum. "My scum reads happen to be the players with votes on them. Me totally scumhunting."

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Ha ha ha ha.

You're trying to arguie that mut and Kill are vocal player. lolscum.

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Empking: Explain vote por favor.

Monk was pretending to scumhunt.

[Empking]

Pretending is

the

scumtell above all other scumtells in my eyes.

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how do you know that

He literally asked questions of the two players with a vote (on them) about the other player with a vote (on them). Literally.

[Empking]

Vote: Kill

Vote: Mute

Mute thoughts on Killjoy?
Killjoy thoughts on Mute?

CASE

[Empking]

Vote: Kill

Vote: Mute

Mute thoughts on Killjoy?
Killjoy thoughts on Mute?

They are my two scum picks at the moment and neither of them have said anything about the other, that is the reasoning I could care less that they have votes on them

CASE

[Empking]

Because I'm town, duh.

Pretty much this.

[Empking]

Monk - Empking, chkflip, Hiraki (3)
Killjoy -

Monk

, Ashblade, Nobody Special (3)

All town.

[Empking]

Yes, I did. But no one listens to me.

And of course there are scum who are being pretty vocal in the game.

Bloated asshole alert springs here.

Unfortunately, not scum.

"Of course," but you're not vocal scum, are you?

Who is? I have the largest number of posts, but I really can't advocate a lynch on myself when I'm town.

my read just went from uber noob town to null.

ugh

At the risk of sounding lazy, we've probably got a PR to catch the third scum.

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but still.

that comment was so un-whiskerish.

and you know it.

I can't use meta

[Empking]

Everyone not voting monk can be blamed for the game stalling. Its pretty obvious that he's our lynch, we're just wasting time.

[Empking]

Read my signature please.

The one day I get solid computer time I get lynched.

Is EpicMafia that bad of an influence?

Monk is town. I feel like Whispers is town. Whiskers. Better read with that recent post. I feel like a failure about this game.

We have to make up our minds so we don't no lynch.

Are you voting monk?

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Besides, he said monk's town, so he wouldn't be voting him anyway. Don't be retarded, bro?

Learn to play, bro. Regaredless of monk's alignment he's still the best place to put votes on (he's got the focus on him and the game is stalling) and since he actually is scum...

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What? Since when does he have the focus on him?

YOUR

focus is on him.

No he has the most votes.

To your second point, as the town's sole scumhunter that's offensive.

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Wait wait wait, what?
The town's

sole

scumhunter?

Why is "sole" in italics? Can you name another one?

You've picked monk for something he did at the beginning of the Day and haven't let go.
Look, who's your second pick?

Killjoy. Far behind though. That's because monk is so far ahead.

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How about your buddy Hiraki? man, he's so town, so much.

Monk isn't scum due to join date.

How can you ignore the verdict of the best player in the whole game?

He was engaging in hyperbole.

[Empking]

He may be scum. However, it will not be for the reasons given already.

[Empking]

How about the rest of that post?

In which he goes on to say

why

monk isn't scum because he's new

Irrelevant.

[Empking]

Empking I haven't actually seen any evidence of your scumhunting, it's magical isn't it?

No?

I am the only player to give reasons/evidence/a case for a player being scummy.

[Empking]

VOTE: Killjoy
This is where my vote should be and the reason Killjoy wins this lucky prize is:
In this post He links together Whiskers and Zed, calling both out on their wishy washy behaviour and voting Zed.
Then in this post He calls Whiskers scummier than Zed and decides not to move his vote, he doesn't do this for nearly another 100 posts(2hrs) but he decides that rather than voting for Whiskers he wants to reread and reassess the wagon he's on, it doesn't make sense with what he has said his current reads are.

This post, this post is quite a fluff piece, but also interesting:

Ya. I have been looking at his games his meta is to give curt replies with not much analysis. Gonna be a problem unless he is cleared through actions and all that jazz.

My reads on Everyone are just glances at their playing style. I felt comfortable with Zed as scum, but the others, especially after Zed's flip do not give me confidence.

Losing the Jailkeeper also lowers my confidence since I headed that lynch. :/

I feel like Mute wouldn't push that hard on a player who would flip a very pro-town power.

He claims sorrow over the Day 1 mislynch, even though it was myself and Mute who were pushing it, it seems to me that he's just fluffing around wanting to see who will be carried away he's wary of being in the spotlight and doesn't want to go there so is AtE as much as he can for his survival.

Empking, Is this just chopped liver then?

Possibly not.

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have to agree with whiskers, while I don't necessarily expect you to unvote, I'd like to know what the difference between my scum hunting and yours is that you claim yours is the only one seen in this thread

Yeah, I don't understand why I'd unvote when that's nothing to do with why I'm voting you. I think I admitted that that was possibly a case (shame it came after the suspicion on you making it null wrt reading you )

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Vote: Kill

Vote: Mute

Mute thoughts on Killjoy?
Killjoy thoughts on Mute?

They are my two scum picks at the moment and neither of them have said anything about the other, that is the reasoning I could care less that they have votes on them

CASE

Unvote. Vote: Monk

- Two random votes, the first a second vote.

I set a trap, I didn't think you'd be the one to set it off, disappointing empking

VOTE: Empking

I honestly laughed at this. Really, that's what you're going with?

Anyone up for Lynch Alll Trap-Setters. That has to be the worst excuse ever used in mafia and I haven't seen it for so long.

This is your case, the rest of your ISO is restatement or fluff.

But tal;k about a wonderful case.

(Oh yeah, everyone on monk is 100% town. Scum aren't bussing yet.)

[Empking]

I, FOR ONE, FEEL RATHER BUTTHURT.

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Raise your hand if you think somebody other than monk is getting lynched today.

[Empking]

Yeah, that'd be fucking great.

So, we lynch townie monk, just for the flip?


Empking, how do you feel about meta?

meh

[Empking]

Empking, how do you feel about meta?

No real feelings either way.

[Empking]

Monk - Empking, chkflip, Hiraki, Killjoy, NS (L-1)

===[]

[Empking]

Totally different situation. Do try to keep up.

Is it just me or is Whiskers white-knighting getting really old?

And so not pro-town anymore.

btw, pretty much the whole thing is opinionated and exaggerated; therefore, strawman.

So much this.

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Yeah.

You're just making up bullshit now and need to die.

So much this.

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That's how Empking always plays.

Y'mean awesomely.

Its pretty clear that we're just burning time until somebody gets the guts to throw down a hammer.

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The fact that it's taking so long either says that it's a town-driven wagon or scum are all confidentally on it from the beginning.

I'd guess the former.

100% the former.

Edit; I've given a bunch of town names multiple times. No lists because I'm not caught up on presentation.

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Empking, chkflip, Hiraki, NS

Literally impossible for these to be scum.

[Empking]

empking don't lie

Not lying. Scum wants us to no lynch. Those four don't.

[Empking]

I think you took his (albeit ambiguous) statement incorrectly.

?

[Empking]

Vote: Kill

[Empking]

Who is that an fos of then?

?

[Empking]

VOTE: Empking

I told you all that Monk was town but no... Now Emp is going for another easy mislynch.

The wagonner is saying That I'm going for an easy mislynch?

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I honestly laughed when your "proof" of my tunneling involved gap(s) of 200 posts.
I then laughed again when who tried to argue that my D1 suspicion of monk was opportunistic jumping on where the suspicion was.

Yeah you're caught scum.

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Oh, but he did. And he did so under the guise of being drunk. He then unvoted shortly afterwards whne monk told him not to vote for him if he thought he was town. Then NS put monk at L-2. Then killjoy obviously like blanked monk's plea out of his mind and re-voted him again.

Is that your sole reason for declaring him town?

Absolutely. I had the same feelings about Kill and Hikari but a looking at the facts makes it clear that that interpretation is terrible.

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Let's stop messing around, ja? Kill, have you claimed?

[Empking]

Whisper, you are town. Please do not let Empking or Chk convince you otherwise.

*giggle*

[Empking]

I'd appreciate everyones read on Hiraki.

Mistaken town.

[Empking]

You know, of the bitch trio, Hiraki is the least of the offenders.

That said, it's still one of the bitch trio.

So I'm glad to be a lynch of him.

Vote: Chkflip

What?

[Empking]

Mod; VC?

[Empking]

Unvote, Vote; Hi

[Empking]

Yay! Hikari is town.

Also, says this about Town Hiraki,

Sigh. Whiskers is confirmed town now.

But says this about Town Whiskers.
What?

1. Are you seriously saying I can't change my mind after 600 posts?
2. Hi is cool. You suck. Plus you were confirmed town by mod interference rather than scumhunting.

Whisper; Did you see the number of posts before I moved my vote. Killing this game does not benefit the town. (Which makes you wonder why it seems to be your only aim.)

[Empking]

Hey Emp.

In (otherongoinggame), I have declared that ignoring (othertownieplayerthatsputtersshit) is protown.

Would you like to join me in this game on such a righteous crusade?

Probably.

[Empking]

Yeah.

This is scumking

Y

[Empking]

Yeah.

This is scumking

Why?

[Empking]

Empking, Ask "why" again, in a slightly different way.

And watch chkflip respond with a "oh, oh, sorry, gonna catchup" post, also slightly rephrased.

teehee.

Made me giggle.

[Empking]

I hate lynching lurkers, so chkflip is out, for now.

Is this a joke?

[Empking]

What do you think?

I want to think yes.

[Empking]

Furthermore, you're implying Empking isn't lurking?

I'm clearly not.

[Empking]

Mod: VC?

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Vote Count 3.2

.5

"Life"

Killjoy - chkflip (1)
Empking - Hiraki, Killjoy,

Whiskers (3)

Hiraki -

Empking,

Nobody Special (2)


Not voting - Ashblade. Pseudo.

Whispersilk.

Let's have another, for the

omgus

of Empking against Hiraki that I just noticed when I was looking for this votecount.

With Nine votes in play, it takes Five to Lynch.

I'm not sure that you know what that word means.

Hi: Do you think I omgus'd you?

[Empking]

how does this happen.

Vote: Empking

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Unvote, Vote; Hi

Okay, sure. I looked. The votes are very far apart.

That said, I see no other reasoning.
We're out of RVS, so.
Omgus?

No. I was boooooooooooooooooored.

[Empking]

Doctor - Friend Chk

[Empking]

Doctor - Friend Chk

What?

?

[Empking]

Looks like an L-some claim.

Why did you save th-- the

other

members of the bitch patrol.

Town as town could be. No more, no less.

[Empking]

So you doctored someone you mentioned once as scum in thread?

Yes. I changed my mind.